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What's your stance on capital punishment?

I am not opposed to it, but the level of surity of guilt should be at a higher level than "beyond a reasonable doubt".

Too many poor people or people with stupid lawyers getting capital punishment that shouldn't.

 
Originally posted by: Squisher
I am not opposed to it, but the level of surity of guilt should be at a higher level than "beyond a reasonable doubt".

Too many poor people or people with stupid lawyers getting capital punishment that shouldn't.
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pretty much agree with you.
 
Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: Squisher
I am not opposed to it, but the level of surity of guilt should be at a higher level than "beyond a reasonable doubt".

Too many poor people or people with stupid lawyers getting capital punishment that shouldn't.
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pretty much agree with you.
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We have a saying here in Oklahoma:

Some Folks Just Need Killin'.

The main problem with capital punishment today is the absurd length of time between the sentencing and the execution. No prisoner should be allowed fifteen years of foot-dragging while inching down the hallway of Death Row toward his final reward.
 
You know, I feel really conflicted and almost hyprocritical... officially I oppose the death penalty... but if somebody ever seriously hurt me or my loved ones and one of the men in my family decided to settle the score
and could do so without endangering themselves.. I could live with it.
 
I don't see it as a deterent, and I don't see it as means of payment for sins. I simply see it as a way of cleansing our society from those that have zero right to be living within it.

If some nutjob abducts a child, rapes him/her, fillets the child out, and then dances on the childs entrails and is caught with the blood on their hands, they shouldn't be put into a mental institution. They should be flat out removed from society...permanently.

I don't want to support them with my tax dollars at the inflated rate of $30,000 - $40,000 a year for jailing costs of keeping someone in prision. Certain people can not be rehabilitated, and have zero respect for human life. It's because of these people that I support the death penalty.
 
OK, a little more of a reply from me.

You kill someone on purpose, you die. That simple. If say, you hit someone who ran in front of your car...I dunno. I really don't think it's your fault at all.

However..

If someone killed anyone I remotely care about...which isn't too many people, mind you...they would find themselves looking down the barrel of a gun, and, shall I quote, the last thing going through their head will be a .45 cal bullet. Either that, or I die trying.

 
I for one support it. The only problem is that it's too soft and friendly. You know they swab your arm with alcohol before they give you a lethal injection? Wouldn't want some guy to go to hell and be sick. I say do unto others, okay? If a guy is being terminated because he blew some people up, let's take him out to a field, strap some dynamite to him, and blow him up. Might be messy to clean, but that's a small drawback for some poetic justice. If a guy is being let go from the human race because he likes to rape women and kill them, then let's let the fellas doing life at the state pen rape the guy until he bleeds to death. Why not? Poetic justice, eye for an eye sort of stuff going on here. We could come up with all sorts of fun deaths, couldn't we? Let's drop off airline terrorists at 30000 feet and see if they can make it down alive. For even more fun, let's bring back some old-fashioned medieval deaths. Those were fun weren't they?




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Hey I'm for it. In fact I'm for killing people just because they piss me off. It's not a deterrent,it's vengence and vengence is cool!!🙂
 
Originally posted by: BigJohnKC
I for one support it. The only problem is that it's too soft and friendly. You know they swab your arm with alcohol before they give you a lethal injection? Wouldn't want some guy to go to hell and be sick. I say do unto others, okay? If a guy is being terminated because he blew some people up, let's take him out to a field, strap some dynamite to him, and blow him up. Might be messy to clean, but that's a small drawback for some poetic justice. If a guy is being let go from the human race because he likes to rape women and kill them, then let's let the fellas doing life at the state pen rape the guy until he bleeds to death. Why not? Poetic justice, eye for an eye sort of stuff going on here. We could come up with all sorts of fun deaths, couldn't we? Let's drop off airline terrorists at 30000 feet and see if they can make it down alive. For even more fun, let's bring back some old-fashioned medieval deaths. Those were fun weren't they?

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You're a George Carlin fan aren't you? 😉 😀
 
For it. And I agree that decades-long appeals are ridiculous. These days with DNA and all it shouldn't be that much of delay between sentence and execution.

And LordMaul, I think anybody running out in front of your car and getting killed would be an accident. I don't think people usually get executed for accidents. 😉
 
Kill----->Be Killed

There are only certain crimes in my state (Tx) which you can receive the death penalty. I support the decision given by the courts in those cases.
 
I'm against the death penalty. It really offers no benefit over a prison sentance except to satisfy some people's thirst for revenge. Seriously, if a guy blew some people up, you'd have him blown up? For what purpose? The only purpose it serves is to let you say "he got what was coming to him" It doesn't help ensure the safety of the population, which is really the purpose of the penal system. It's there to keep dangerous people away from society more than anything, with a secondary emphasis on encouraging them to improve themselves so that when they are eventually released (for those that will be) they will no longer be a danger to society. The problem w/ the death penalty is that it's irreversible. I'd much rather spend some extra money (seriously: what percent of the bugdet goes to paying for death row inmates appeals, housing, food, etc, maybe 0.01%?) to give a wrongly accused innocent man another chance than save my $0.01 and be able to say "hahaha Burn in hell, asshole! I'm glad you're dead!"
 
Originally posted by: Gaard
For it. And I agree that decades-long appeals are ridiculous. These days with DNA and all it shouldn't be that much of delay between sentence and execution.

And LordMaul, I think anybody running out in front of your car and getting killed would be an accident. I don't think people usually get executed for accidents. 😉
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I realize that. 😛

But still. While they aren't given capital, people are still heavily punished for "involutary manslaughter". I think, a lot of times, that it is not the right thing to do if someone had no reason or want to kill someone and it happened...unless, of course, they might be lying..


Too complicated. 😉
 
I'm against it. For one, you inevitably end up with innocents getting killed - amounting to murder one, funded by my tax dollars.

Not to mention that it costs me more as a tax payer to fry someone than to let them rot in jail for the rest of their life. (courts, appeals process)
 
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