What's your normal volume setting for movies?

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I know everyone has different brands of receivers, different level adjustments by channel, and different seating distances that affect the decision. But for the sake of conversation...how loud do you normally crank it up?

For me, I'm running an Onkyo RC-180 calibrated with Auddessy and sitting about 12 feet from the front stage. I've got most levels running flat with the subs bumped up +2 for a little extra heat.

Depending on the movie and how crazy the LFE is, I usually run at -20 to be courteous to anyone else in my house. If I'm by myself and no one else is around I'll run up to -15 but not any more out of fear of destroying my ears, the subs, or the structural stability of my house. At -15 things are almost painfully loud in my room. I can't even imagine going into single digits on movies like Tron Legacy or Terminator Salvation. I think the plaster walls would crumble.

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generally between -20 and -10 depending on the movie. i "can" listen to stuff at reference but its not always a good idea

im calibrated but even with that the space is small enough that it can just get silly

if i actually used my sub like most people im pretty sure i could simulate an earthquake up here
 
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I'm calibrated with Audessey and I usually run around -4, just a hair below reference levels.
 

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So semi stupid question....what exactly is the "volume setting" you guys refer to? When you talk say -10db it makes me think of my onkyo and the speaker level's setting page. Which has my speakers at -10db and and have the sub at -6db (i has issues with the sub and power level.....long story it dont work right but works good enough lol)

Now when someone says volume used for movie watching im thinking of turning the actual big round nob on the receiver to make sound louder or lower. In which case if its just me im at ~20-25 for bluray and ~25-35 for dvds (seems to be volume differences). If its the family its usually between 30-40. But then i see Vi mentioning like -20 and wonder if maybe its just my receiver is odd or something. Just an onkyo 607 right now

So i guess im just curious if you guys are refering to the calibrated db's settings or what exactly :)
 

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All I know is that when the explosions come on, they're REALLY F@$%ING LOUD and I have to turn it down, and when the actors are just talking, I have to turn it back up to hear them. So annoying.
 

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So semi stupid question....what exactly is the "volume setting" you guys refer to? When you talk say -10db it makes me think of my onkyo and the speaker level's setting page. Which has my speakers at -10db and and have the sub at -6db (i has issues with the sub and power level.....long story it dont work right but works good enough lol)

Now when someone says volume used for movie watching im thinking of turning the actual big round nob on the receiver to make sound louder or lower. In which case if its just me im at ~20-25 for bluray and ~25-35 for dvds (seems to be volume differences). If its the family its usually between 30-40. But then i see Vi mentioning like -20 and wonder if maybe its just my receiver is odd or something. Just an onkyo 607 right now

So i guess im just curious if you guys are refering to the calibrated db's settings or what exactly :)

i reported what my receiver says

at -35 i cant hear network TV
 

the DRIZZLE

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So semi stupid question....what exactly is the "volume setting" you guys refer to? When you talk say -10db it makes me think of my onkyo and the speaker level's setting page. Which has my speakers at -10db and and have the sub at -6db (i has issues with the sub and power level.....long story it dont work right but works good enough lol)

Now when someone says volume used for movie watching im thinking of turning the actual big round nob on the receiver to make sound louder or lower. In which case if its just me im at ~20-25 for bluray and ~25-35 for dvds (seems to be volume differences). If its the family its usually between 30-40. But then i see Vi mentioning like -20 and wonder if maybe its just my receiver is odd or something. Just an onkyo 607 right now

So i guess im just curious if you guys are refering to the calibrated db's settings or what exactly :)

When I say -4 I mean 46 on the volume screen not actually -4db. 50 is reference level.
 

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Many AVR's are calibrated to "reference" levels where the speakers are supposed be playing at a baseline volume of 85db and peaks of around 105db.

On these "reference" is at "0". Below that are the negative values you see. The reference volume varies a lot by speaker sensitivity and listening distance.
 

ProfJohn

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The Onkyo rc270 has volume levels rated at 1-100 so there is no -20 etc.

I watched Tron with the volume reading 'reference' on the AVR which is pretty damn loud :)

Was awesome movie until the center channel rattled right off the tv stand... oops.
 

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I need to soundproof my theater. I get about -5 on pio 1018 before the wife gets totally pissed in the daytime..


In the evening im courteous and go -20
 

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-20 for me, reference is just too loud. Yes, my system is calibrated with a SPL meter.
 

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Usually TV watching is around -25-30, if I really crank it for a movie, the most I do is -15. But I also live in an apartment. If I had a house it might go louder. On Marantz SR5002.
 

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My brother and I both have Onkyo receivers. His shows volume in a negative number and mine is a positive, so I don't see how the "volume level" means anything, unless you actually measure it. I don't have that ability.

I listen at a volume that is comfortable for me :)
 

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I live in a townhome right now, so I can't go super loud. I usually set -33 to -30 for ps3 gaming, up to -20 or so for some movies.
 

sdifox

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My brother and I both have Onkyo receivers. His shows volume in a negative number and mine is a positive, so I don't see how the "volume level" means anything, unless you actually measure it. I don't have that ability.

I listen at a volume that is comfortable for me :)

People are referring to reference level. Average 85db is deemed reference and you just use that as 0.
 

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My brother and I both have Onkyo receivers. His shows volume in a negative number and mine is a positive, so I don't see how the "volume level" means anything, unless you actually measure it. I don't have that ability.

I listen at a volume that is comfortable for me :)

in many receivers (well my receiver at least - Onkyo TX-SR876) volume level 0 is meant to be reference level. What is reference level? Look here for an answer to that
http://www.thx.com/consumer/thx-technology/thx-reference-level/
http://www.thx.com/consumer/thx-technology/thx-loudness-plus/
Also this is a good read for those with receivers that has audyssey
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14456895#post14456895

I set up my HT with all 8 points of audussey calibration and loudest I have gone on my 26x14' HT room is -15. I usually listen in -20 to -17 range.

Music and tv are totally different beasts because not all music are mixed at a reference level like ALL movies are.
 

Aharami

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All I know is that when the explosions come on, they're REALLY F@$%ING LOUD and I have to turn it down, and when the actors are just talking, I have to turn it back up to hear them. So annoying.

Not sure what receiver you have, but this might help
Audyssey MultEQ
The biggest part of what MultEQ is calibrating is the frequency response of the speaker. It tries to undo the problems that are added by the room. They come from standing waves and reflections from the walls, floor, etc.
The Audyssey Reference target curve is flat in the bass with rolloff in the high frequencies that starts at 4kHz
and goes down gently at 10 kHz and then slightly steeper after that to 20 kHz
It also calculates the proper delays for the speakers, displayed as distances, so that sound from all speakers arrives at the same time at the first measurement position.
It is also the reason that many complain that the sub is found to be at the "wrong" distance.
What they forget is that the signal from the sub is delayed by the electrical filters in the sub (the low pass filters that can't be turned off), as well as the physical distance to the listener. The correction must include both.
If you want to use an SPL meter to measure the speaker levels, then you must make sure that MultEQ is ON and Dynamic EQ is OFF.
Or you can leave them both on and turn the volume to 0 because Dynamic EQ is inactive at that volume.

Audyssey Dynamic EQ
Addresses human hearing changes as the volume is lowered.
The first thing that diminishes at lower volumes is our perception of bass,
so Dynamic EQ boosts it according to a set of curves that match human perception.
The second thing that changes is our perception of surround impression,
so Dynamic EQ boosts the surround level as you lower the volume.
The idea with Dynamic EQ is to turn the volume down to where you like it and it will adjust the response
and surround envelopment for you. It's made for listening at softer, not loud, levels.

Audyssey Dynamic Volume
For the past several years, receivers have included a dynamic range compression method called Night Mode and now DRC for TruHD content.
It is supposed to solve the problem of content getting too loud, but it has failed to do so for a number of reasons including
wrong setting of the flags during production, inability of the method to adjust the reaction time,
and no capability for perceptual loudness correction when the volume is turned down.
Audyssey Dynamic Volume was designed to address the problems described above and
with its ability to look ahead it can vary the reaction time to increases in loudness so that no artifacts are heard.
Dynamic Volume is designed around a known quantity: dialog level in film. The idea is that the user should set the level for the dialog volume they want. Then, depending on the range you have selected (Light, Heavy), Dynamic Volume will keep the loudest and softest sounds within that range.
The idea is not to squash everything to one volume level. You still want to know that some things are louder than others, but that they stay within an acceptable range.
Audyssey allow some customization in the Dynamic Volume settings because this is a preference. Denon decided on three modes (Midnight/Evening/Day), Onkyo has two (Heavy/Light). Light is very close to Day and Heavy is very close to Midnight.
Dynamic Vol (Light) prevents loud and soft sounds from being much louder and softer respectively than average sounds.
Dynamic Vol (Heavy) affects volume the most, causing all sounds to be of equal loudness.

THX Loudness Plus vs Audyssey Dynamic EQ
Roughly speaking Audyssey Dynamic EQ and THX Loudness Plus is attempting to solve the same thing:
http://www.thx.com/technologies/loudness_plus.html
THX Loudness Plus compensates for the tonal and spatial shifts that occur when the volume level is reduced. By automatically raising the levels of the ambient sound, you experience the true impact of movies, music and games regardless of the volume setting.
http://www.audyssey.com/technology/dynamicEQ.html
Audyssey Dynamic EQ is the first loudness correction technology to solve the problem of deteriorating sound quality as volume is decreased by taking into account human perception and room acoustics.
Audyssey Dynamic EQ selects the correct frequency response and surround volume levels moment-by-moment. The result is something never before possible—bass response, octave-to-octave balance and surround impression that remain as they should be despite changes in volume. This is the first technology to carefully combine information from incoming source levels with actual output sound levels in the room, a pre-requisite for delivering a loudness correction solution
The manual and the Onkyo implementation in the menus is extremely confusing.
THX Loudness Plus and Audyssey Dynamic EQ/Dynamic Volume can't be on at the same time because they would interfere with each other.
The Preserve THX selection is Onkyo's way of letting you engage THX for everything except loudness correction.
Preserve THX settings: No -> Audyssey Dynamic EQ / Audyssey Dynamic Volume will be active in THX listening mode depending on the setting.
This setting is only available if “Loudness Plus” is set to “Off”

Audyssey Technologies in Onkyo models:
TX-NR906 and TX-SR876 : MultEQ XT, Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume
TX-SR806 and TX-SR706 : MultEQ and Dynamic EQ
TX-SR606 : 2EQ and Dynamic EQ

[regarding using a SPL meter]
Please understand that it is physically impossible to use an SPL meter (of any brand) and sinusoidal test tones and hope to determine anything about frequency response. That method has no chance. You will not even be in the ballpark. The reason is that sinusoidal tones in a room suffer from standing waves. Just try moving the meter 6" while playing a sine wave and look at the needle. It can move by 10 dB or more.
Making changes to the EQ based on SPL meter measurement with CD tones is like shooting at flies in the dark.
(Also see end of the paragraph about Audyssey MultEQ)

See later for THX Re-Eq/Audyssey Roll-Off

from the audyssey thread I linked in my previous post
 

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I currently live in an apartment, so I just turn it up loud enough to make the dialogue clear. However when I lived at home I played movies at theatrical levels. Can't wait to move into a house so that I can go back to watching movies the proper way again.
 
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-20 to -15 on a Pioneer 1020.
i have the center channel +4 because I always seem to find dialogue inaudible/unclear.
 
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Vadatajs

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Between -30 and -20 on a yamaha 667, depending on the movie.

TV shows are usually -35 - -32.5.
 

kalrith

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-15 for TV shows on Denon 1610 calibrated with Audyssey
0 for movies when my wife's not home.
 
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I have a Pioneer 1018 model and usually listen between 10 tops down to 25 depending on movie. But most are probably in the 15 range. I still about 10' from my fronts and center.
 

thomsbrain

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-22 for DTS, -18 for DD, with a healthy bump to the LFE. It's a small room. At that volume I'm already bottoming out my 12" sub.