What's your fav sunscreen?

[dud]

Any of the "No Ad" brand of sunscreens ....

 

[PieIsAwesome]

OH NOES WHITE CAST!

Personally Id rather look a little pale than burn and blister. Also Zinc Oxide is the broadest and best protection against UV including the full spectrum of UVA/UVA2 (longwave) up to 400nm in wavelength. Check some spectrum graphs like this:

UVC is about 200-280nm (not shown on this chart, but zinc oxide covers that well) UVB is 280-320nm and UVA is 320-340nm. From 340-400nm is UVAII (2) also know as longwave UVA. This shows how a 20% zinc oxide compares to several other sunscreens. Its basically superior to everything. It doesn't wear out or break down over time (most of the UVA chemical stuff doesn't even last an hour) and it doesn't absorb into your skin nearly as much or even at all and it doesn't wash off as easily either so the protection lasts much longer. I do know the particle size and density etc affects the performance of these products so this is not a 100% accurate chart but a relative one. Zinc oxide is known to have a broader coverage of UV protection and covers more UVA than anything else.

I don't burn easily and don't much like looking like a greasy white ghost. My concern is primarily UVA protection, and there are effective non-zinc options out there. Yes, zinc oxide is good at blocking across a large spectrum all by itself, and if you put a thick wall of 20% zinc oxide (ugh), you are covered. But a mixture of non-zinc oxide ingredients could also protect across a large spectrum. Some chemical ingredients are not photo-stable on their own and break down in sunlight, but that's why (at least in a good sunscreen) they are mixed with other ingredients that stabilize them.

 

[The_Dude8]

I worked in the sun-care industry for 15 years, the best lotions will have zinc-oxide or titanium-dioxide because these are UV blockers, not absorbers. They will cost you a little more but last longer and don't need as frequent re-application..

what is a good brand you would recommend that contain zinc oxide?

 

[Imp]

None. I spend a lot of time outside, and build up tolerance. I try to avoid the sun if possible though, and use fabric barriers.

I try to do the same. I just wish wearing keffieyhs/head scarves were socially acceptable outside of the Middle East. For a moment, I thought about getting one to wear while at work outside, but that'd probably get me into trouble especially because I was spending a lot of time under bridges.

 

[HendrixFan]

None. I spend a lot of time outside, and build up tolerance.

This. I gradually increase my sun exposure throughout the summer. My skin adjusts and I never burn or peel.

 

[Imp]

This. I gradually increase my sun exposure throughout the summer. My skin adjusts and I never burn or peel.

If you only care about burning, okay. Asians and Africans (dark skinned people who untanned are still darker than caucasians) actually have bad (read: not noticeably lower than light skinned, possibly comparable or worse -- I forget) skin cancer rates because of the misconception that they're less susceptible to cancer since they don't burn easily (e.g. they might spend more time in sun, wear less sunscreen).

IIRC, African Americans have a natural SPF of 5 or 15, but they still get skin cancer. There's actually a community awareness thing going on about this.

It's your life, just fyi.

P.S. If anyone's a red head, good luck because you're just f*cked...

 

[Mixolydian]

Real men don't use sunscreen.

 

[IronWing]

Real men don't use sunscreen.

Real men have more divots than the MDA golf course.

 

[EliteRetard]

what is a good brand you would recommend that contain zinc oxide?

Pretty much anything that has at least 20% zinc oxide. I personally prefer the 40% that can be found in products like rash cream. Since the only active ingredient (at 20%+) you need is the zinc oxide the rest of the ingredients are up to you. There should be a variety of products with zinc oxide, some labeled as sun protection some not, just read the back and decide which one sounds the best to you. If you don't want a ton of weird chemical sounding names you can find ones that use wax, natural oils, or shea butter as the base, even odd ingredients like goats milk.

You'll see it used in products labeled for skin protectant, sun screen, rash, chafing, etc. Many times its branded as "natural" or "organic" and bump the price for the fad wagon. I've heard of brands like badger, green screen, and soleo using zinc oxide (~20%)...but they're usually like 5$ for a 1oz tube. Ill post this again:

http://www.cvs.com/shop/product-det...ximum-Strength-Diaper-Rash-Paste?skuId=126755

That's a 40% zinc oxide paste in a 1lb jar for under $20. The equivalent sun screen branded stuff would be around $160. Actually here's a pack (2 x 16oz if I'm reading it right) of the stuff at amazon for under 40$ shipped:

http://www.amazon.com/Desitin-Oxide-.../dp/B004AI575G

You could mix this stuff with another oil/jelly/cream to 50% if you just want a 20% zinc oxide mix. I don't bother mixing it down myself, I think its plenty cheap compared to traditional sunscreen and much better than the "natural" branded versions while being stronger. It's also very multi-purpose so I always keep some around.

 

[shortylickens]

Clothes.

 

[IronWing]

Clothes.

How am I supposed to earn a living?

 

[EliteRetard]

How am I supposed to earn a living?

No shoes, no shirt, and you still get service?

 

[iamwiz82]

If you only care about burning, okay. Asians and Africans (dark skinned people who untanned are still darker than caucasians) actually have bad (read: not noticeably lower than light skinned, possibly comparable or worse -- I forget) skin cancer rates because of the misconception that they're less susceptible to cancer since they don't burn easily (e.g. they might spend more time in sun, wear less sunscreen).

IIRC, African Americans have a natural SPF of 5 or 15, but they still get skin cancer. There's actually a community awareness thing going on about this.

It's your life, just fyi.

P.S. If anyone's a red head, good luck because you're just f*cked...

If by "not noticeably lower" you mean Caucasian is four to five times more likely, then you are correct. That's a pretty big gap.

http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/skin/statistics/race.htm

That being said, it can still happen. Bob Marley, anyone?

 

[Imp]

If by "not noticeably lower" you mean Caucasian is four to five times more likely, then you are correct. That's a pretty big gap.

http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/skin/statistics/race.htm

That being said, it can still happen. Bob Marley, anyone?

Okay, I was wrong -- didn't feel like looking up the stats and just remembered the message for African Americans to not be complacent -- so melanoma is noticeably lower for non-whites.

Overall message is still there: don't think a darker complexion will make you immune to the cancer.

 

[The_Dude8]

Pretty much anything that has at least 20% zinc oxide. I personally prefer the 40% that can be found in products like rash cream. Since the only active ingredient (at 20%+) you need is the zinc oxide the rest of the ingredients are up to you. There should be a variety of products with zinc oxide, some labeled as sun protection some not, just read the back and decide which one sounds the best to you. If you don't want a ton of weird chemical sounding names you can find ones that use wax, natural oils, or shea butter as the base, even odd ingredients like goats milk.

You'll see it used in products labeled for skin protectant, sun screen, rash, chafing, etc. Many times its branded as "natural" or "organic" and bump the price for the fad wagon. I've heard of brands like badger, green screen, and soleo using zinc oxide (~20%)...but they're usually like 5$ for a 1oz tube. Ill post this again:

http://www.cvs.com/shop/product-det...ximum-Strength-Diaper-Rash-Paste?skuId=126755

That's a 40% zinc oxide paste in a 1lb jar for under $20. The equivalent sun screen branded stuff would be around $160. Actually here's a pack (2 x 16oz if I'm reading it right) of the stuff at amazon for under 40$ shipped:

http://www.amazon.com/Desitin-Oxide-.../dp/B004AI575G

You could mix this stuff with another oil/jelly/cream to 50% if you just want a 20% zinc oxide mix. I don't bother mixing it down myself, I think its plenty cheap compared to traditional sunscreen and much better than the "natural" branded versions while being stronger. It's also very multi-purpose so I always keep some around.

is this a good sunscreen?
http://solar-sense.com/zany.shtml#

since it contains 25% zinc oxide, and i found it at the 99 cents store. How long can you use sunscreen after it has expired?

 

[BUTCH1]

what is a good brand you would recommend that contain zinc oxide?

Brand is not that important, Neutrogena was always a class-leader but as long as it has zinc-oxide or titanium-dioxide it will offer excellent protection. Manufacturers got away from both because of cost and it's a royal pain to clean the mixing tank afterwards!, but consumers have been educating themselves and the products are making a comeback..

 

[Red Squirrel]

Never really noticed any brand being better than the other so I just take the highest rating I can find. I still burn, but not as badly as I would without. I usually get one nasty sun burn at the start of the summer season then I use Aloe Vera on it to reduce the pain and it's gone within a few weeks and I usually don't get another for that season.

 

[EliteRetard]

is this a good sunscreen?
http://solar-sense.com/zany.shtml#

since it contains 25% zinc oxide, and i found it at the 99 cents store. How long can you use sunscreen after it has expired?

I would think that zinc oxide doesn't really break down but the solution it's in might...could get separation and other oddities (and this one does have some weird chemicals in it). But that's .4 oz for 1$? So 2.5$ per oz for 25%...half off the brand name stuff, but still not as cheap as ass cream

 

[BUTCH1]

I would think that zinc oxide doesn't really break down but the solution it's in might...could get separation and other oddities (and this one does have some weird chemicals in it). But that's .4 oz for 1$? So 2.5$ per oz for 25%...half off the brand name stuff, but still not as cheap as ass cream

Cosmetics are loaded with preservatives, mainly because a consumers sweaty hands comes in contact with product that goes back in the bottle..

 

[The_Dude8]

I would think that zinc oxide doesn't really break down but the solution it's in might...could get separation and other oddities (and this one does have some weird chemicals in it). But that's .4 oz for 1$? So 2.5$ per oz for 25%...half off the brand name stuff, but still not as cheap as ass cream

thanks
the inactive ingredients are:
petrolatum
hydrogenated polyisobutene,
ceresin wa,
titanium dioxide,
triethoxycaprylysilane

may contain ultramarines, yellow,red

are any of the above inactive ingredients bad for the face or the skin?

The reason i want to try the color sunscreen is for edc in vegas next month, and I don't want to look like a lobster.

anyone know anything regarding glow in the dark powder?
can you mix it with reg. water? and use it as water based paint?

I did try googling mxing glow in the dark powder with water, but the answer is all over the place.

Trying to get cheap glow in the dark paint in order to paint some white gloves, so they can glow in the dark during edc.

thanks.

 

[EliteRetard]

Cosmetics are loaded with preservatives, mainly because a consumers sweaty hands comes in contact with product that goes back in the bottle..

In the US it's illegal to sell any cosmetic product (including sun screen) without preservatives. You can make your own stuff without it, but its only cost effective purchased in very large quantities.