unless you are kidding. she really needs some professional help. ATOT Is not the place and there is nothing you can do to help but to take her to see a counselor.
unless you are kidding. she really needs some professional help. ATOT Is not the place and there is nothing you can do to help but to take her to see a counselor.
?? Same disease, different name (bipolar=manic-depressive)
http://www.mayoclinic.com/invoke.cfm?id=DS00356
For many people, signs and symptoms in the manic phase may include:
Feelings of euphoria, extreme optimism and inflated self-esteem
Rapid speech, racing thoughts, agitation and increased physical activity
Poor judgment
Recklessness or taking chances not normally taken
Difficulty sleeping
Tendency to be easily distracted
Inability to concentrate
Extreme irritability
In the depression phase, signs and symptoms include:
Persistent feelings of sadness, anxiety, guilt or hopelessness
Disturbances in sleep and appetite
Fatigue and loss of interest in daily activities
Difficulty in concentrating
Recurring thoughts of suicide
BTW, i ain't no docta!
http://www.mayoclinic.com/invoke.cfm?id=DS00356
For many people, signs and symptoms in the manic phase may include:
Feelings of euphoria, extreme optimism and inflated self-esteem
Rapid speech, racing thoughts, agitation and increased physical activity
Poor judgment
Recklessness or taking chances not normally taken
Difficulty sleeping
Tendency to be easily distracted
Inability to concentrate
Extreme irritability
In the depression phase, signs and symptoms include:
Persistent feelings of sadness, anxiety, guilt or hopelessness
Disturbances in sleep and appetite
Fatigue and loss of interest in daily activities
Difficulty in concentrating
Recurring thoughts of suicide
BTW, i ain't no docta!
She hasn't. I tell her over and over and she doesn't see one. Shes coming to town in a couple of weeks.... I'll want take her to a shrink for a few sessions while shes down here..... i just don't have the money...
I knew a girl who was big into the attention thing and totally played on it.
She had a blog and would write the most useless drivel in it. She was total attention whore'ish. Began pretending she was psychotic. First she said she was a child prodigy, so special blah blah. Then 3 months later she had ADD or some learning problem but was a savant. Then 3 months after that she had depression. Then 3 months later it was anxiety. Then narcolepsy. Then she was anorexic and poor self-image. Then 3 months later it was schizophrenia. Then it was manic depression. Then it was breakdowns. Then she was a self-mutilator... then... etc etc. I'm not kidding. She must have cycled through about 15 different mental illnesses heh.
It was funny reading her blog and she convinced herself she was all this sh!t. After so long she shut her blog down and came back to reality. What was the result? She had nothing wrong with her! hah.
I think a lot of teens/young adults want to think they are crazy and self-diagnose for no good reason. Maybe its attention, or maybe they want to feel unique. I don't know. But mental illness is the new "in thing" in the blog/camwhore circle.
What happens in the end? Pretend you care (even though you shouldn't because its all fake)
Pretend you believe in whatever she thinks she has. Support her or whatever.
After a few more months she should come back to reality and be perfectly normal.
She had a blog and would write the most useless drivel in it. She was total attention whore'ish. Began pretending she was psychotic. First she said she was a child prodigy, so special blah blah. Then 3 months later she had ADD or some learning problem but was a savant. Then 3 months after that she had depression. Then 3 months later it was anxiety. Then narcolepsy. Then she was anorexic and poor self-image. Then 3 months later it was schizophrenia. Then it was manic depression. Then it was breakdowns. Then she was a self-mutilator... then... etc etc. I'm not kidding. She must have cycled through about 15 different mental illnesses heh.
It was funny reading her blog and she convinced herself she was all this sh!t. After so long she shut her blog down and came back to reality. What was the result? She had nothing wrong with her! hah.
I think a lot of teens/young adults want to think they are crazy and self-diagnose for no good reason. Maybe its attention, or maybe they want to feel unique. I don't know. But mental illness is the new "in thing" in the blog/camwhore circle.
What happens in the end? Pretend you care (even though you shouldn't because its all fake)
Pretend you believe in whatever she thinks she has. Support her or whatever.
After a few more months she should come back to reality and be perfectly normal.
DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT. Pay her bills. Its obvious it's gonna cost hundreds to set her straight. If she doesn't go to a doctor, DO NOT talk to her as she's only ignoring your advise and using you as an emotional crutch
Allright. Friend1 is my Girlfriend. Friend 2 is a Nursing Student at baylor university. Man I feel for you though. My last girlfriend was minor manic/bi-polar, but she was not nearly as severe sounding as the conversation you posted. I will pray for both of you tonight. Blessings.
Convo 1
jm0ris0n (11:13:36 PM): So, hey. If you gave this guy advice what would you say ?
Friend1 (11:15:11 PM): assuming he doesnt want to be in a relationship with her again [which i sure as hell wouldnt] stress the doctor aspect and make sure she doesnt mistake his concern for wanting to be with her becuase that could make it even worse for her if she still has feelings for him
Friend1 (11:16:12 PM): (bryan was in love with me... he said alot of that crap to ahve me take pity on him and give him attention because he knew that i couldnt do anything after he said hed almost killed himself because of me)
jm0ris0n (11:17:31 PM): But in the conversation she says shes been out of it for like 1.5 months which to me says there was no current relationship
Friend1 (11:17:44 PM): exactly
Friend1 (11:17:58 PM): but girls can mistake concern by a guy for something else
jm0ris0n (11:18:46 PM): was bryan as out of it as she was
jm0ris0n (11:18:57 PM): like the 'not knowing myself' stuff
Friend1 (11:19:51 PM): i dont think he was as far gone
Friend1 (11:19:56 PM): but she definitley needs drugs
Friend1 (11:20:33 PM): its like... extreme depression/social anxiety all in one
Convo 2
Friend2 (11:19:44 PM): well, sounds like many things
Friend2 (11:19:55 PM): could be some sort of panic attack/ anxiety disorder
Friend2 (11:19:59 PM): could be depression
Friend2 (11:20:28 PM): could be bipolar--"i was doing so well....then i was in a stupor, like a dream"
jm0ris0n (11:21:06 PM): Yeah, thanks. Whatever it is she does not sound well
Friend2 (11:21:24 PM): no no
Friend2 (11:21:29 PM): i haven;t read it all
jm0ris0n (11:21:35 PM): ok !
Friend2 (11:21:37 PM): but those three sound the closest
Friend2 (11:22:45 PM): she sounds like a worrier, big time
Friend2 (11:23:11 PM): and depression is an umbrella term, as well
Friend2 (11:23:27 PM): just like anxiety, she could have some form of an anxiety disorder
Friend2 (11:23:37 PM): or some form of depression
Friend2 (11:23:58 PM): tell him to give advice but don't get involved too terribly much...he can't heal her he can only help so far
Friend2 (11:24:06 PM): like, don't get caught up in a superman routine
Friend2 (11:24:57 PM): don't think he's the only person to help her...just try his hardest to get her to see a therapist and to be HONEST with that therapist
Friend2 (11:25:13 PM): sounds like her counsilor was bad b/c she wasn't telling him everything
Friend2 (11:25:35 PM): like, supportive but don't get caught up in the "i'm the only one to help her" game
Friend2 (11:25:48 PM): she'll get better only if she wants to
Friend2 (11:25:52 PM): that's my advice
Again, Good Luck Friend.
Convo 1
jm0ris0n (11:13:36 PM): So, hey. If you gave this guy advice what would you say ?
Friend1 (11:15:11 PM): assuming he doesnt want to be in a relationship with her again [which i sure as hell wouldnt] stress the doctor aspect and make sure she doesnt mistake his concern for wanting to be with her becuase that could make it even worse for her if she still has feelings for him
Friend1 (11:16:12 PM): (bryan was in love with me... he said alot of that crap to ahve me take pity on him and give him attention because he knew that i couldnt do anything after he said hed almost killed himself because of me)
jm0ris0n (11:17:31 PM): But in the conversation she says shes been out of it for like 1.5 months which to me says there was no current relationship
Friend1 (11:17:44 PM): exactly
Friend1 (11:17:58 PM): but girls can mistake concern by a guy for something else
jm0ris0n (11:18:46 PM): was bryan as out of it as she was
jm0ris0n (11:18:57 PM): like the 'not knowing myself' stuff
Friend1 (11:19:51 PM): i dont think he was as far gone
Friend1 (11:19:56 PM): but she definitley needs drugs
Friend1 (11:20:33 PM): its like... extreme depression/social anxiety all in one
Convo 2
Friend2 (11:19:44 PM): well, sounds like many things
Friend2 (11:19:55 PM): could be some sort of panic attack/ anxiety disorder
Friend2 (11:19:59 PM): could be depression
Friend2 (11:20:28 PM): could be bipolar--"i was doing so well....then i was in a stupor, like a dream"
jm0ris0n (11:21:06 PM): Yeah, thanks. Whatever it is she does not sound well
Friend2 (11:21:24 PM): no no
Friend2 (11:21:29 PM): i haven;t read it all
jm0ris0n (11:21:35 PM): ok !
Friend2 (11:21:37 PM): but those three sound the closest
Friend2 (11:22:45 PM): she sounds like a worrier, big time
Friend2 (11:23:11 PM): and depression is an umbrella term, as well
Friend2 (11:23:27 PM): just like anxiety, she could have some form of an anxiety disorder
Friend2 (11:23:37 PM): or some form of depression
Friend2 (11:23:58 PM): tell him to give advice but don't get involved too terribly much...he can't heal her he can only help so far
Friend2 (11:24:06 PM): like, don't get caught up in a superman routine
Friend2 (11:24:57 PM): don't think he's the only person to help her...just try his hardest to get her to see a therapist and to be HONEST with that therapist
Friend2 (11:25:13 PM): sounds like her counsilor was bad b/c she wasn't telling him everything
Friend2 (11:25:35 PM): like, supportive but don't get caught up in the "i'm the only one to help her" game
Friend2 (11:25:48 PM): she'll get better only if she wants to
Friend2 (11:25:52 PM): that's my advice
Again, Good Luck Friend.
Honestly, this is not the place to seek any medical advice. I would guess bi-polar but I have no credentials. You should take her to a psychologist who specializes in depression and get a diagnosis. After that her (parents) insurance should cover therapy and/or meds.
First take: she needs help.
Second: she cheated on you, so the chances of her doing so again are rather high (but not absolute) if you're going to persue her as a gf again. She might just need some attention or caring from someone she knew in the past.
As posted above, do NOT give her anything monetary: bill paying or whatever. That won't help the problem. Get her mentally and emotionally out of her hole, as it's the source of all the other problems. Take the source away, and all the others go away.
In the typical concerned-and-helpful-to-a-fault fashion, I'm curious as to how this goes, esp when she finally does come down.
I'm over at Embry-Riddle in Daytona Beach, so if you're ever up here, lemme know.
Anyhow, its 1:30 am, and I have 7 hours to finish a paper.
edited before the grammar nazi's pounced.
Second: she cheated on you, so the chances of her doing so again are rather high (but not absolute) if you're going to persue her as a gf again. She might just need some attention or caring from someone she knew in the past.
As posted above, do NOT give her anything monetary: bill paying or whatever. That won't help the problem. Get her mentally and emotionally out of her hole, as it's the source of all the other problems. Take the source away, and all the others go away.
In the typical concerned-and-helpful-to-a-fault fashion, I'm curious as to how this goes, esp when she finally does come down.
I'm over at Embry-Riddle in Daytona Beach, so if you're ever up here, lemme know.
Anyhow, its 1:30 am, and I have 7 hours to finish a paper.
edited before the grammar nazi's pounced.
I think if she was seriously crazy she would not announce to you that she thinks that she is crazy (crazy people act the way they do, thinking that its normal). I didn't read all of the chat, but I read some and it sounds like she is more trying to get attention, then her having a serious problem. Please stay away from her, you mentioned that you still have feelings for her, just stay the fvck away man, she cheated on you and that's that. About her grades dropping and such. A LOT of people like to find reasons for why they are a fvck up. For example, I failed that final because the professor sucks! No one will ever take the blame for themselves. What really made me not believe her is the fact that she's spilling all of this on you. Not letting you talk and constantly typing messages of her own, its like if she has already thought about what she wanted to say. Furthermore, it sounds like she is trying to make her life sound more depressing by saying crap like "oh i just want to talk to you because i know YOU CARE" "oh i just want to talk to others that I CARE about". She is trying to suck you into something that you shouldn't be a part of. Re-read what she is saying, and discard anything that seems to be an overexxageration, then re-read it again and see if you still believe her. One thing that I would definately discard her saying is "i have been talking in the third person" That's complete BS, she might've done it once in a while (who doesn't) and she's trying to make it sound like a daily thing. I'm sure nothing is wrong with her, and she is just trying to make an excuse for her failing grades.
Correction. All women are crazy and it's up to them to prove they're not.
This situation with the ex is pretty serious. Sounds like she's suffered from some post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) as a result of the disowning from her father and the issues there. Hopefully, she seeks proper professional help to get a proper diagnosis - and to get through this.
Meanwhile, OP, just be a supportive friend. And I do mean "friend" in a supportive way.
You've been here for over four years and you're complaining because no one has been "constructive"? Fine, here's "constructive": if you're really worried about her, get someone professional involved. You won't be able to "fix" her, only she can do that. So stop posting about it on a fvcking MESSAGE board and see about getting her help.
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