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olds

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Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
You seemed to of missed the point completely. I can't seem to be complacent with my computer build no matter what. ...

Yet you have no trouble macking on your sister. Go figure.
 

Red Squirrel

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
The problem is probably when you go and upgrade the hardware you also "upgrade" the software, to something that uses 10x the resources as the previous software. Especially OS.

For example, a computer with a single core CPU and 2GB of ram running XP will run just as fast as a quad core cpu machine with 12GB of ram running Vista. The key to really seeing the performance out of hardware upgrades is to install the exact same software as before. I find today's software/technology is going backwards. Applications are much more bulkyer and much more demanding on hardware, and hardware is slightly keeping up. All we're really doing now is moving a 2 ton vehicle using 800 horse power, instead of moving a 1/4 ton vehicle using 100 horse power.

I'm generally speaking here, not ALL software has gone bloated, but seems in general it has. Even Linux requires a fairly decent pc to run now.

You're a moron if you really think it is a fair comparison between those two. Vista is not that bad. Look at the gaming benchmarks comparing vista and XP.

Vista is pretty bad. I rather have new hardware and stick with XP. That way you can take advantage of the power, instead of having your OS use a bigger chunk of it.

When XP came out it was the same thing, it was too heavy for the hardware at the time. MS really need to work on making their stuff less resource demanding. An OS sitting at the desktop should not be using 40% cpu, like vista does.
 

Liberator21

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I used to be exactly like you. It didn't help that I was 20 years old and had a credit card with a $7000 limit. I went crazy, buying all this stuff - scoring "deals" and learning to OC and which parts went best with what.

Anyhow, I got married and finally realized it was hurting my family. I don't know how people become obsessed with it but they do. I think it's because I used to be obsessed with lego's when I was little. They really got me into building and using my imagination. That's what computers are all about to me.

So my solution? Finally I got out of it, but still struggle even now. I've got a room full of junk and surprisingly my only machine at the moment is an HP netbook. Other than gaming, it does the job my other super rigs did. There are better uses of money. Dang, give it to charity or something. That's what I wish I had done. I'm $11,000 in credit card debt, most of it on computers with not a damn thing to show for it. Get out while you can.
 

WA261

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Yeah, you need more cooling... GUESS WHAT??? I have what you need. A Promie Mach 2. Baker block modded and all. Universal mount, 504 gas, new flex hose, etc. $500.00 and it's yours. =)
 

Red Squirrel

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May 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: Liberator21
I used to be exactly like you. It didn't help that I was 20 years old and had a credit card with a $7000 limit. I went crazy, buying all this stuff - scoring "deals" and learning to OC and which parts went best with what.

Anyhow, I got married and finally realized it was hurting my family. I don't know how people become obsessed with it but they do. I think it's because I used to be obsessed with lego's when I was little. They really got me into building and using my imagination. That's what computers are all about to me.

So my solution? Finally I got out of it, but still struggle even now. I've got a room full of junk and surprisingly my only machine at the moment is an HP netbook. Other than gaming, it does the job my other super rigs did. There are better uses of money. Dang, give it to charity or something. That's what I wish I had done. I'm $11,000 in credit card debt, most of it on computers with not a damn thing to show for it. Get out while you can.

lol it's one thing to spend your own money on this stuff, but putting it on credit? That's probably the key of where you went wrong. :p

Never put technology stuff on credit. Technology changes too fast and you don't want to end up being paying for something that's already outdated. It's like our first computer, it was a Pentium 3 that was like 3k. By the time it was paid for, I had already built myself an AMD Athlon XP 2000+ machine for about $1500 and it was paid with cash.
 

dguy6789

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Dec 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
The problem is probably when you go and upgrade the hardware you also "upgrade" the software, to something that uses 10x the resources as the previous software. Especially OS.

For example, a computer with a single core CPU and 2GB of ram running XP will run just as fast as a quad core cpu machine with 12GB of ram running Vista. The key to really seeing the performance out of hardware upgrades is to install the exact same software as before. I find today's software/technology is going backwards. Applications are much more bulkyer and much more demanding on hardware, and hardware is slightly keeping up. All we're really doing now is moving a 2 ton vehicle using 800 horse power, instead of moving a 1/4 ton vehicle using 100 horse power.

I'm generally speaking here, not ALL software has gone bloated, but seems in general it has. Even Linux requires a fairly decent pc to run now.

You're a moron if you really think it is a fair comparison between those two. Vista is not that bad. Look at the gaming benchmarks comparing vista and XP.

Vista is pretty bad. I rather have new hardware and stick with XP. That way you can take advantage of the power, instead of having your OS use a bigger chunk of it.

When XP came out it was the same thing, it was too heavy for the hardware at the time. MS really need to work on making their stuff less resource demanding. An OS sitting at the desktop should not be using 40% cpu, like vista does.

Vista on my computer. The installation is about a year old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...Y&feature=channel_page

Uses about 1.4GB of memory and no cpu % when idle except for the minute amount used by task manager. All of my programs run great and my games are smooth. I don't have a problem with Vista being slow.
 

MovingTarget

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Jun 22, 2003
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Same here. I got out a while back by running out of funds when I graduated. Now I have one ageing iBook G4 and a myriad of desktops from secondhand only parts. If you want a real challenge, try running a DC setup using dumpster parts. Save your wallet.
 

Red Squirrel

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May 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: dguy6789
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
The problem is probably when you go and upgrade the hardware you also "upgrade" the software, to something that uses 10x the resources as the previous software. Especially OS.

For example, a computer with a single core CPU and 2GB of ram running XP will run just as fast as a quad core cpu machine with 12GB of ram running Vista. The key to really seeing the performance out of hardware upgrades is to install the exact same software as before. I find today's software/technology is going backwards. Applications are much more bulkyer and much more demanding on hardware, and hardware is slightly keeping up. All we're really doing now is moving a 2 ton vehicle using 800 horse power, instead of moving a 1/4 ton vehicle using 100 horse power.

I'm generally speaking here, not ALL software has gone bloated, but seems in general it has. Even Linux requires a fairly decent pc to run now.

You're a moron if you really think it is a fair comparison between those two. Vista is not that bad. Look at the gaming benchmarks comparing vista and XP.

Vista is pretty bad. I rather have new hardware and stick with XP. That way you can take advantage of the power, instead of having your OS use a bigger chunk of it.

When XP came out it was the same thing, it was too heavy for the hardware at the time. MS really need to work on making their stuff less resource demanding. An OS sitting at the desktop should not be using 40% cpu, like vista does.

Vista on my computer. The installation is about a year old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...Y&feature=channel_page

Uses about 1.4GB of memory and no cpu % when idle except for the minute amount used by task manager. All of my programs run great and my games are smooth. I don't have a problem with Vista being slow.


Add 40 icons to the desktop and try to select/deselect them very fast. (Windows 7 has this issue too). Simple UI tasks seem to totally kill the machine. It could be a virtualization thing too though, but it's the only OS that gives that much issues in VM.