Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Funny, CkG, that it would officially be called insurance... Old-age and survivors disability insurance- OASDI. The vast majority of recipients paid into the fund their entire working lives- some are disabled, some are their aged widows or widows with underage children. I recognize that facts often interfere with polemics, but try these out, anyway-
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/FACTS/factsheet.html
As is common, you are apparently confusing the program with another-
http://www.ssa.gov/notices/supplemental-security-income/
These funds come from general tax revenues, rather than the SS trusts.
They often overlap, with each other and various veterans' programs, but the subject at hand is OASDI...
SS doesn't have anything to do with the "common good" - it takes away from all who work (except a few cases) and gives to those who don't.
If you'll consult the .pdf chart in the first link, you'll notice that the vast majority paid into the fund their entire working lives, some more than 40 years, and were provided with disability and survivors' (life insurance) benefits the entire time... many SS recipients also work, whether they're survivors or merely aged... many don't work anymore, but you definitely can't draw SS if neither you nor your deceased spouse never worked...
using it as a way of life - not a safety net. SS was never meant to be sustained livable income.
Unfortunately, those who legitimately receive SS disability benefits need it as a basis for survival. Like you, I suspect that some may be undeserving, but that small % in no way discredits the entire program. And for those who are of retirement age, it definitely should pay for the basics of life... otherwise, the entire thing would be a fraud.
I realize the necessity of making changes to the system- in terms of SS, I'm definitely conservative, as are most people, we want it to survive and provide the same kind of benefits in the future that my parents and grandparents received, that I and the rest of the boomers actually paid for. There are probably a variety of ways to accomplish that task, but trusting those who hate it to improve and sustain it is stupidity of the lowest order...
As far as the selfishmess and greed are concerned, I'm at the right tree. I see the inheritance of great wealth and rank exploitation of honest work redefined as income earned within this forum and others on a regular basis, also the notion that taxes, unions and government are basically the root of all evil held up high. hogwash.