What's With The Hate And Assumptions About People Who Like Halo?

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Well at least you'd have your a keyboard with more than the eight buttons of a gamepad.

The gamepad buttons aren't an issue for people used to using a KB/M setup on a console FPS, the issue is the difference between mouse aiming and joystick aiming. Products like the XFPS do not aim well and are not really worth the money.

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Sheesh, I don't think you guys will ever be happy with consoles, and I don't think you're supposed to actually. Consoles are a lot more group oriented

I hate split-screened gaming. It's the bane of the console existence.

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
It seems to me that PCs are targeting the opposite end of the spectrum, people that like to play the game for keeps instead of playing just for fun. Heavy gamers as opposed to social gamers, if you will.

So... because I play some games on my PC, I play games just to play them rather than having fun? I think it might rock your world if I said I play both 360 and PC :Q! I actually think it's quite safe to say I own more console games (360, PS2, GC, NDS and PSP) than PC games too.

Personally, I think the people that keep trying to justify a controller are just plain delusional. You need to wake up and smell the coffee...! The controllers of today are best for certain types of games, no doubt about that just as the KB/M setup is better for other types of games than a controller is. I don't see where this is even deniable.

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: Aikouka
Personally, I think the people that keep trying to justify a controller are just plain delusional. You need to wake up and smell the coffee...! The controllers of today are best for certain types of games, no doubt about that just as the KB/M setup is better for other types of games than a controller is. I don't see where this is even deniable.

On the flip side just because one control method may be better than another (simply faster in this case) doesn't automatically make games using another method crap. I mean, I really don't see many people deny that a mouse is faster for aiming... but what you do see is many PC gamers automcatically writing off console games based on the controller alone.. which is utterly stupid, IMO. Hey, if you prefer KB/M over a controller to the point that you refuse to use a controller, that's cool... but don't come in here talking stupid nonsense about PC games being inherently better because of it.

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

So... because I play some games on my PC, I play games just to play them rather than having fun? I think it might rock your world if I said I play both 360 and PC :Q! I actually think it's quite safe to say I own more console games (360, PS2, GC, NDS and PSP) than PC games too.

Personally, I think the people that keep trying to justify a controller are just plain delusional. You need to wake up and smell the coffee...! The controllers of today are best for certain types of games, no doubt about that just as the KB/M setup is better for other types of games than a controller is. I don't see where this is even deniable.

Your argument is that mice are faster, but I have to ask, why do I care? If everybody is slower, what's the problem, you're no more disadvantaged than any other player. Gamepads are far more convenient because you can play on a couch or wherever you feel like, convenience trumps speed when you're talking about consoles and the general public. And the fact that you care so much about being able to kill someone .1 seconds after they walk around a corner rather than .3 seconds isn't hurting my argument 😉 I'm not surprised you have lots of consoles and console games, my point is you care way too much about instant kills and whatnot. Honestly, I, and all my friends, hate playing with people like you because it's not really a game when you're like that, it's all about who has the better reflexes and the most free time to memorize maps and improve their reflexes even more.

Split screen can suck for four-way play on an SD TV, even if it's pretty big. But, I've done it on a big (50" or so?) 720p set before, and it was very nice even with four people, better than a whole screen to myself on a 20" SD. I don't have the money for one myself, but it might be worth looking into for you.

 

[PimpJuice]

Originally posted by: Skacer
Let's try and pretend your pitiful attacks on me are thinly veiled. If I was really concerned, I'd wonder why you are trying so hard to justify how many friends you have in a thread about Halo? When you grow up, you and your friends probably won't spend much time in front of the TV. So whether or not you have a 60" TV won't matter that much. The fact that you haven't gotten to this point speaks volumes about where you are in your life. Try not to attack me so much while openly stating that the biggest thing you and your friends have going is a TV set and Halo 3.

Nice assumption, but its not the biggest thing going for me, but it is definitely better than sitting and gaming at a computer alone which is what the argument was. Trust me, I'm grown and I have better things to do.....sorry if the truth hurt, but the fact of the matter is your argument isirrelevant to the masses and simply dumbfounded.

My argument still stands, most people with busy schedules dont care to have a single monitor hooked up to a pc. They want to come home from a long day at work or after going to the gym and sit on the couch and hang out with family and friends whether its playing a game or not. The last thing I want to do is be on the computer anymore than I have to (already on a computer 8 hours a day at work). Obviously, you think differently and like being on the computer playing games. Have fun and do your thing, i'll do mine.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Your argument is that mice are faster, but I have to ask, why do I care? If everybody is slower, what's the problem, you're no more disadvantaged than any other player.

I discuss this earlier, because it goes backward in a control mechanism. A lot of times when we discuss controls for games, we tend to talk about the next best way to control our games. For example, how the d-pad was revolutionary in game control. Joysticks to control the reticle in FPS games is not as accurate as a mouse because a mouse goes from point to point where a joystick controls the speed and direction.

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Gamepads are far more convenient because you can play on a couch or wherever you feel like, convenience trumps speed when you're talking about consoles and the general public.

I mentioned earlier that I can use wireless devices with my PC that is also hooked up to my HDTV without a problem. The mouse and keyboard in this case are just as convenient.

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
And the fact that you care so much about being able to kill someone .1 seconds after they walk around a corner rather than .3 seconds isn't hurting my argument 😉 I'm not surprised you have lots of consoles and console games, my point is you care way too much about instant kills and whatnot. Honestly, I, and all my friends, hate playing with people like you because it's not really a game when you're like that, it's all about who has the better reflexes and the most free time to memorize maps and improve their reflexes even more.

If time isn't a big deal, then what's so wrong with me being able to kill you in .1 seconds rather than .3? Of course these times are greatly exaggerated, but hey. I do find the comments near the end kind of amusing, because regardless of controller of KB/M, the better your reflexes and memorization of maps are the better you will be with either of the control schemes. So I don't see why you and your friends don't hate each other because the same concepts exist on consoles 😛.

Also, what's with the hating on people that are good? I'm hated just because I can frag someone with a rail gun from across the map in Q3 (or I used to be able to 😛)?

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Split screen can suck for four-way play on an SD TV, even if it's pretty big. But, I've done it on a big (50" or so?) 720p set before, and it was very nice even with four people, better than a whole screen to myself on a 20" SD. I don't have the money for one myself, but it might be worth looking into for you.

Sucks on a HDTV too~.

 

[Ruptga]

There's tradeoffs to everything, and you obviously prefer the advantages of PC style gaming, which is something I can live with.

Yeah, hate is a bit strong, but it really isn't fun to play with people when there's such a large skill gap, you can't say it's really a competition when the final score is 25-7-5-5-3 or something along those lines. There definately are people like that in the console world, but the point is I don't want any more of them around to ruin our noobish fun 😛

Lastly, suck is relative in the sense that the N64 was amazing when it came out, but now some of us look at it and shudder; you just can't be irritated by a lack of quality when you don't know any better. If I were a videophile, or even more than a casual gamer, I might care about how terrible Xbox1 graphics look, but I am a casual gamer, and Halo 2 is alright. I have played some Halo 3, and it is a large improvement over Halo 2, makes me a little sad I only have an Xbox1, but I can live with it. Me != $ and I've learned to live with GMA 950 and an Xbox1, one of these days I'll have enough money to get the nice stuff, but at this point it's a moot debate.