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Whats with all the cruel things people are doing to animals?

Setting em on fire, grilling em? ..jeeze..

Grilled kittens? is that the result of an extreme form of masterbation 😉?

but no really people are sick these days.
 
I agree that it takes a sick individual to do something like that, but when someone does it to a human (see the vampire thread) people say "Oh, he needs help."

Viper GTS
 
Someone needs help regardless if it's a kitten, heaven forbid, or a person alike. I downright despise people who torture animals, and will even get on my friend's cases if they start taunting my own cat. It's just wrong.
 
It's one of the antecedents to becomming a serial killer . . .if the people aren't sociopaths as is.
Either way, it's probably not on the rise . . .just reported more. With Tv and the internet combined with peoples' short attention span, we can count on news to keep us reveling in the flith of humanity.
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I agree that it takes a sick individual to do something like that, but when someone does it to a human (see the vampire thread) people say "Oh, he needs help."

Viper GTS

the difference is that one does it to derive joy from the suffering of others, and the other does it to reach a goal. whereas one takes pleasure in the act, the other takes pleasure in the result.
 
Some people just feel inadequate and need to torture weaker creatures to make them feel better about themselves...oh sh!t hold on my gimp is loose again.
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I agree that it takes a sick individual to do something like that, but when someone does it to a human (see the vampire thread) people say "Oh, he needs help."

Viper GTS



dont know why you keep making that comparison, they are totally differnet cases. The teenager is obviously a mentally disturbed kid , the focker who grilled the kitten is just a nimwit who got off doing it. And there is a different between killing someone via roasting them on a grill and killing someone via stabbing them to death.
 
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I agree that it takes a sick individual to do something like that, but when someone does it to a human (see the vampire thread) people say "Oh, he needs help."

Viper GTS

the difference is that one does it to derive joy from the suffering of others, and the other does it to reach a goal. whereas one takes pleasure in the act, the other takes pleasure in the result.

So when Westley Allen Dodd tortured and mutilated little boys and then left them under foilage in a park to die, which category did he fall in?

Viper GTS
 
it pisses me off to think that people do this, i think punishment should be same as crime...eye for eye tooth for tooth type of deal, regardelss of species....actually, what about people who swat flies!??!!
 
dont know why you keep making that comparison, they are totally differnet cases. The teenager is obviously a mentally disturbed kid , the focker who grilled the kitten is just a nimwit who got off doing it. And there is a different between killing someone via roasting them on a grill and killing someone via stabbing them to death.

I want to quote this to make sure people see it, as I'm headed to bed for the night.

How someone who can type, use a computer, and form somewhat coherent sentences can say that last sentence with a straight face is beyond my comprehension.

Viper GTS
 
LOL - Viper GTS isn't going to post his 20k'th post tonight, so rip him a new asshole and I get to watch him squirm because he won't reply!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
dont know why you keep making that comparison, they are totally differnet cases. The teenager is obviously a mentally disturbed kid , the focker who grilled the kitten is just a nimwit who got off doing it. And there is a different between killing someone via roasting them on a grill and killing someone via stabbing them to death.

I want to quote this to make sure people see it, as I'm headed to bed for the night.

How someone who can type, use a computer, and form somewhat coherent sentences can say that last sentence with a straight face is beyond my comprehension.

Viper GTS



WTF are you talking about? You dont think there is a difference between:

1. Killing an animal by roasting it on the grill, thereby inflicting massive amounts of pain for a prolonged period of time, with that intent in mind
2. Killing an animal by stabbing it 22 times, thereby killing it quickly.

???


If you dont think so, I think you are one sick bastard.
 
If it please the forum, I am here to represent my friend Viper GTS, at his request.

Viper GTS is trying to point out something that should be obvious to any intelligent being on this planet. Human life is more important than animal life. The loss of a human life is qualitatively more devastating that the loss of an animal (as sad as that may be as well).

A human that initiates the death of an animal for pleasure is committing one type of evil. A human that determines to cause the death of another human is committing a greater evil, no matter what their state of mind. This young man in England descended into his obsession and then stole the last few precious moments of a 90-year old woman.

The young man's evil act is greater than the evil act that caused the death of a kitten. Gregg feels that our grief and anger should be proportional to the importance of the lost life.
 
Originally posted by: Maetryx
If it please the forum, I am here to represent my friend Viper GTS, at his request. Viper GTS is trying to point out something that should be obvious to any intelligent being on this planet. Human life is more important than animal life. The loss of a human life is qualitatively more devastating that the loss of an animal (as sad as that may be as well). A human that initiates the death of an animal for pleasure is committing one type of evil. A human that determines to cause the death of another human is committing a greater evil, no matter what their state of mind. This young man in England descended into his obsession and then stole the last few precious moments of a 90-year old woman. The young man's evil act is greater than the evil act that caused the death of a kitten.

LMFAO - lame and weak that Gregg has to ask someone else to post 😉

Anyway, an animal doesn't have a soul. It doesn't matter if cruelty is beheading it or slowly cooking it. Either way should be met with hars punishment. They're not people. They don't have a conscience and can only act on instinct. It's A FSCKING ANIMAL - there shouldn't be levels of badness when it comes to that. Just nail the fuggers once and for all.

nik
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I agree that it takes a sick individual to do something like that, but when someone does it to a human (see the vampire thread) people say "Oh, he needs help."

Viper GTS

the difference is that one does it to derive joy from the suffering of others, and the other does it to reach a goal. whereas one takes pleasure in the act, the other takes pleasure in the result.

So when Westley Allen Dodd tortured and mutilated little boys and then left them under foilage in a park to die, which category did he fall in?

Viper GTS

unless there's more to the story, i would think the first. unless you know something i don't...
 
Originally posted by: gopunk
Human life is more important than animal life. prove it.

Animals don't "live" they simply "exist"
No conscience
No logical thought patterns apart from instinct
No soul

...like plants. Is it a crime to cut a flower from the garden?

Anyway, I'd like to see someone prove that we're just animals or that animal life is somehow just as important as human life...

nik
 
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: gopunk
Human life is more important than animal life. prove it.

Animals don't "live" they simply "exist"
No conscience
No logical thought patterns apart from instinct
No soul

...like plants. Is it a crime to cut a flower from the garden?

Anyway, I'd like to see someone prove that we're just animals or that animal life is somehow just as important as human life...

nik


Animals are more concious then plants buddy. Animals have feelings too...if u kick a dog he wont like u then, animals are just like people, they have mood swings, feelings, thouhgts, and they communicate. Their not just THERE they dont just EXIST they live and breath just like us.
 
Viper GTS is trying to point out something that should be obvious to any intelligent being on this planet. Human life is more important than animal life. The loss of a human life is qualitatively more devastating that the loss of an animal (as sad as that may be as well).


I would agree with you for the most part then! 🙂 I didnt say killing an animal was either more or less important than killing a human. I would ask him to re-read the last sentence again slowly. I worded it like that for a purpose. 🙂 I was not comparing these cases in specific only using them to show that killing something slowly, and with intent to cause prolonged pain, is much worse than a quicker death.


A human that initiates the death of an animal for pleasure is committing one type of evil. A human that determines to cause the death of another human is committing a greater evil, no matter what their state of mind. This young man in England descended into his obsession and then stole the last few precious moments of a 90-year old woman.

Well, as silly as it sounds I guess I sort of disagree here. If we are to talk "evil" I dont think you assign that quality to someone who clearly has mental hallucination issues. Is her death something sad and tragic? Certainly. But if you are to take into what the intent and culpability of each suspect was, I think the kitten griller is more "evil'.

 
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: gopunk
Human life is more important than animal life. prove it.

Animals don't "live" they simply "exist"
No conscience
No logical thought patterns apart from instinct
No soul

...like plants. Is it a crime to cut a flower from the garden?

Anyway, I'd like to see someone prove that we're just animals or that animal life is somehow just as important as human life...

nik

Prove it. I didn't know you could get inside of an animals head and figure out if it's thinking logical thoughs or has a conscience. I also didn't know that you could tell if an animal has a soul or not I thought they were invisible. How can you explain animals having different personalities? Plants don't have personalities and don't have the ability to feel pain. Do you actually have anything to back this up or are you just going off of guesses?
 
Originally posted by: chiwawa626
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: gopunk
Human life is more important than animal life. prove it.

Animals don't "live" they simply "exist"
No conscience
No logical thought patterns apart from instinct
No soul

...like plants. Is it a crime to cut a flower from the garden?

Anyway, I'd like to see someone prove that we're just animals or that animal life is somehow just as important as human life...

nik


Animals are more concious then plants buddy. Animals have feelings too...if u kick a dog he wont like u then, animals are just like people, they have mood swings, feelings, thouhgts, and they communicate. Their not just THERE they dont just EXIST they live and breath just like us.

I agree. Dogs (and other animals) have emotions; they care about what's going on around them. Just because society values human life more than the lives of animals does not mean that torturing and killing animals just to revel in the sheer cruelty of it should be condoned. People who do that are mentally sick and should either be put into prison or left to rot in some mental hospital for a long, long time.
 
through science we're learning just how different we are from other animals. we're not as different as we'd like to think really. our extra bit does let us do quite a bit more yes, but that doesn't mean lower animals have nothing😛 sociopaths do these things because they lack empathy.
 
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