What's up with Doctor Phil?

[AntaresVI]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Kiyup

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: NathanBWF Just another @$$hat who makes money by taking advantage of over emotional ignorant home makers. Some others: John Edward Oprah etc...

At least he tries to help people. I've only seen part of one show, but it looked much better than anything I've ever seen on MTV, or any other talk show.

With the fare you absorb it doesn't sound suprising.

English please? What is fare? and how do I absorb it?

Maybe if you knew some english you'd know that he insulted you

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
I wish I could give out relationship advice and rake in the dollars.

<--- points to sig.


Not raking in the dollars, though.

Maybe I should setup a donation via PayPal link

 

[Sluggo]

Originally posted by: NogginBoink

Originally posted by: Jackhole
The only reason why people watch him is because Oprah endorses him. He gives such common sense advice, it's ridiculous that he's got a show.

Actually, I find it rather refreshing that a self-help person is not letting these idiots blame society, or their parents, or their abusive relationships, or whatever, for their problems.

Yes, his advice is common sense. But common sense just isn't very common these days.

There are a LOT of people out there who can't see the obvious. Dr. Phil makes 'em see the obvious.

So yeah... he's an overpaid self help guru who doles out, "well, DUH!" advice. But lots of folks need that kind of advice.

EXACTLY

There is also Dave Ramsey, a guy who is making millions telling people not to go into CC debt, and dont buy crap you cant afford. He freely admits that all his radio show and books are is common sense.

An amazing age we live where the millionaires are guys who tell people what they should have been taught in the 6th grade....pretty damn sad.

 

[Wag]

That's why quick fixes like his don't help.

They ripped him and other self-help gurus apart on Penn & Teller's: BS! (great show btw). Yes, all this stuff is obvious, even to those who appear on his show- the problems are much more deep-seated than that, and those are the types of people who need sustained therapy- to figure out why they can't do the obvious.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Jay Leno was asking him about his overweightness and he got mad.

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Jay Leno was asking him about his overweightness and he got mad.

Yes, Descartes told us that about 10 posts back. Maybe if you got off your lazy ass and read a whole thread your family would like you better.

Dr. Sox

 

[Eli]

Haven't read the thread yet, but I say this in every Dr. Phil thread.

You guys can bash him all you want, the fact is that he's a very smart man, and he knows more about psychology than any of us morons ever will.

His target audience isn't exactly ATOT. Get over yourselves already.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

what kind of world do we live in when an overweight man can write a diet book?

I suppose its no worse than a world where a man raised by an abusive manic-depressive mother and marries a pill-popping alcoholic political radical can write one of the best-selling books of all time dispensing advice on child-rearing.

But seriously, any half-wit should be able to recognize the difference between being overweight because one is muscular and being overweight because one is fat. Most professional and college football players, every professional body builder and most amateurs are significantly "overweight", morbidly "obese" according to blind interpretations of BMI and weight/height charts, but I don't think you'll find a single physician who would rail-on against the health risks of being an athlete with substantially above-average muscle mass.

Dr. Phil has been very athletic since childhood and received a football scholarship to the University of Tulsa. Being 6' 4", he carries 240lb on a very large frame. As you might know, football players are generally not miniscule blowy wafts of the Brad Pitt or Pierce Brosnan variety, who are at considerable risk of being knocked over if someone farts or sneezes too close to them.

Dr. Phil was an avid weight lifter in college and still works-out with weights every day, in addition to running the equivalent of five 9-minute miles on an exercise machine every morning and playing tennis every afternoon. Of course, at 53 years of age, he isn't going to carry that weight quite the same way he did when he was 23.

He also worked with overweight patients for eight years. It wasn't as though he was a marital or relationship counselor his entire career who woke-up one morning and decided to write a weight-loss book.

Medical and weight-loss authorities who have reviewed Dr. Phil's book say the advice is nothing earth-shattering. Its essentially the same sound and common sense advice the medical community has been trying to get people to follow for years without much success because most fat people don't want to lose weight if it means they have to make any changes to those aspects of their lifestyle that made them fat to begin with.

If Dr. Phil has found a way to get a few more people to embrace sound weight-loss advice, more power to him. God knows this society could do with fewer two-ton heffers.

OWNAGE.

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: Eli
Haven't read the thread yet, but I say this in every Dr. Phil thread.

You guys can bash him all you want, the fact is that he's a very smart man, and he knows more about psychology than any of us morons ever will.

His target audience isn't exactly ATOT. Get over yourselves already.

He knows nothing of psychology and routinely puts people that are clinically depressed and at risk at more risk, effectively violating the most sacred of all medical oaths: do no harm. He's not only a poor "psychologist" he's just a flat out poor human being, exploiting another's weakness for his own wealth and fame.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: NFS4
Idiot: Dr. Phill, I'm having some marital problems
Dr. Phill: Well, you're an idiot
Idiot: Yeah, but how can you help me
Dr. Phill: Stop being an idiot
Idiot: Uhhhh.....

**Audience applause**

Excellent recapitulation of a typical episode.

Jay Leno questioned how Dr. Phil could write a diet book being as big as he is, and he turned it around to a bunch of insults on Jay. Why anyone buys self-help books from such people is beyond me.

And you wonder why your family has problems with you. Seriously, unplug the computer and come up for some fresh air, idiot.

If that was a joke, I didn't quite grok it.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: Eli
Haven't read the thread yet, but I say this in every Dr. Phil thread.

You guys can bash him all you want, the fact is that he's a very smart man, and he knows more about psychology than any of us morons ever will.

His target audience isn't exactly ATOT. Get over yourselves already.

He knows nothing of psychology and routinely puts people that are clinically depressed and at risk at more risk, effectively violating the most sacred of all medical oaths: do no harm. He's not only a poor "psychologist" he's just a flat out poor human being, exploiting another's weakness for his own wealth and fame.

I disagree.

Who are you again?



You're free to start up your own TV show. Seriously, how can you say something like that? What are your credentials? Give me a break.

Dr. Phil and his three sisters grew up in Oklahoma and Texas, where their father worked as a salesman for an oil-equipment company and their mother was a homemaker. Dr. Phil was awarded a football scholarship to the University of Tulsa, and then finished his degree at Midwestern State University in Wichita Falls, Texas. Later, he earned his doctorate in psychology at the University of North Texas. In 1979, Dr. Phil opened a practice with his father, who got his psychology degree at the age of 40.

After years of practicing, Dr. Phil realized that traditional therapy was not his calling. "From the very beginning, it wasn't for me. I didn't have the patience for it," he says.

In 1989, he co-founded Courtroom Sciences, Inc., a company that assists the legal profession by conducting mock trials, behavioral analysis, jury selection and mediation. It was through CSI that Dr. Phil met Oprah Winfrey. In 1996, she was being sued by cattlemen who claimed she defamed the beef industry on one of her shows, and Oprah hired CSI to help with her case. Dr. Phil did just that in 1998, and soon after he became an expert on her show, dealing with life strategies and relationships.

.

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: NFS4
Idiot: Dr. Phill, I'm having some marital problems
Dr. Phill: Well, you're an idiot
Idiot: Yeah, but how can you help me
Dr. Phill: Stop being an idiot
Idiot: Uhhhh.....

**Audience applause**

Excellent recapitulation of a typical episode.

Jay Leno questioned how Dr. Phil could write a diet book being as big as he is, and he turned it around to a bunch of insults on Jay. Why anyone buys self-help books from such people is beyond me.

And you wonder why your family has problems with you. Seriously, unplug the computer and come up for some fresh air, idiot.

If that was a joke, I didn't quite grok it.

grok

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: Eli
Haven't read the thread yet, but I say this in every Dr. Phil thread.

You guys can bash him all you want, the fact is that he's a very smart man, and he knows more about psychology than any of us morons ever will.

His target audience isn't exactly ATOT. Get over yourselves already.

He knows nothing of psychology and routinely puts people that are clinically depressed and at risk at more risk, effectively violating the most sacred of all medical oaths: do no harm. He's not only a poor "psychologist" he's just a flat out poor human being, exploiting another's weakness for his own wealth and fame.

I disagree.

Who are you again?



You're free to start up your own TV show. Seriously, how can you say something like that? What are your credentials? Give me a break.

Dr. Phil and his three sisters grew up in Oklahoma and Texas, where their father worked as a salesman for an oil-equipment company and their mother was a homemaker. Dr. Phil was awarded a football scholarship to the University of Tulsa, and then finished his degree at Midwestern State University in Wichita Falls, Texas. Later, he earned his doctorate in psychology at the University of North Texas. In 1979, Dr. Phil opened a practice with his father, who got his psychology degree at the age of 40.

After years of practicing, Dr. Phil realized that traditional therapy was not his calling. "From the very beginning, it wasn't for me. I didn't have the patience for it," he says.

In 1989, he co-founded Courtroom Sciences, Inc., a company that assists the legal profession by conducting mock trials, behavioral analysis, jury selection and mediation. It was through CSI that Dr. Phil met Oprah Winfrey. In 1996, she was being sued by cattlemen who claimed she defamed the beef industry on one of her shows, and Oprah hired CSI to help with her case. Dr. Phil did just that in 1998, and soon after he became an expert on her show, dealing with life strategies and relationships.

.

So basically your retort is that he has a degree. That and a buck will buy you a bag of shrimp chips.

Putting vunerable people on television and making them cry for ratings needs no explanation- it's poor practice that any legitimate psychologist would frown upon.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: Eli
Haven't read the thread yet, but I say this in every Dr. Phil thread.

You guys can bash him all you want, the fact is that he's a very smart man, and he knows more about psychology than any of us morons ever will.

His target audience isn't exactly ATOT. Get over yourselves already.

He knows nothing of psychology and routinely puts people that are clinically depressed and at risk at more risk, effectively violating the most sacred of all medical oaths: do no harm. He's not only a poor "psychologist" he's just a flat out poor human being, exploiting another's weakness for his own wealth and fame.

I disagree.

Who are you again?



You're free to start up your own TV show. Seriously, how can you say something like that? What are your credentials? Give me a break.

Dr. Phil and his three sisters grew up in Oklahoma and Texas, where their father worked as a salesman for an oil-equipment company and their mother was a homemaker. Dr. Phil was awarded a football scholarship to the University of Tulsa, and then finished his degree at Midwestern State University in Wichita Falls, Texas. Later, he earned his doctorate in psychology at the University of North Texas. In 1979, Dr. Phil opened a practice with his father, who got his psychology degree at the age of 40.

After years of practicing, Dr. Phil realized that traditional therapy was not his calling. "From the very beginning, it wasn't for me. I didn't have the patience for it," he says.

In 1989, he co-founded Courtroom Sciences, Inc., a company that assists the legal profession by conducting mock trials, behavioral analysis, jury selection and mediation. It was through CSI that Dr. Phil met Oprah Winfrey. In 1996, she was being sued by cattlemen who claimed she defamed the beef industry on one of her shows, and Oprah hired CSI to help with her case. Dr. Phil did just that in 1998, and soon after he became an expert on her show, dealing with life strategies and relationships.

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So basically your retort is that he has a degree. That and a buck will buy you a bag of shrimp chips.

Putting vunerable people on television and making them cry for ratings needs no explanation- it's poor practice that any legitimate psychologist would frown upon.

Well, I agree with your sentiment... the degree doesen't make the person, but still..... He knows what he is talking about, and I am sure he knows what he is doing.. even if it is in the name of ratings. And what spectacular ratings he gets.

He tells it like it is. People need a good dose of reality sometimes. If it makes them cry, so be it. That's not what his show is all about, though.

 

[iwearnosox]

All about Dr. Phil. Try the Dr. Phil automated wisdom generator, I did!

"You don't need parmesan cheese to steal your neighbor's porn."

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
All about Dr. Phil. Try the Dr. Phil automated wisdom generator, I did!

"You don't need to feel good to take a big swim in Lake Jackass."

eh.... you linked to rotten.com as a rebuttal. Isn't that like linking to nationalenquirer.com for a news story?

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
All about Dr. Phil. Try the Dr. Phil automated wisdom generator, I did!

"You don't need to feel good to take a big swim in Lake Jackass."

eh.... you linked to rotten.com as a rebuttal. Isn't that like linking to nationalenquirer.com for a news story?

It's not a rebuttal, and their information is useful.

 

[Wuffsunie]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
All about Dr. Phil. Try the Dr. Phil automated wisdom generator, I did!

"You don't need to feel good to take a big swim in Lake Jackass."

eh.... you linked to rotten.com as a rebuttal. Isn't that like linking to nationalenquirer.com for a news story?

It's not a rebuttal, and their information is useful.

The scary part is, is actually works.
Q: Will ATOT ownz joo?
A: You don't need to work out to complain about these kids nowadays.

 

GeeeeeZ! I could never understand Americans. I don't think I'll try to anymore. It seems there's jealousy in every sense if you're a successful person.

First off, the people whom he's advising are people who sought help. Everyday we whine or have these stupid statistics about the health of Americans and the rate of obesity. We say how people should do something about it. Then they seek help and find someone, yet we criticise the person helping them. Hello? It isn't your problem, so keep quiet and mind your business.

Yes, I myself wondered if Dr. Phil had extra weight on. He probably does, but there's a difference. He's much older; he stays physically active; he was an athlete until his injury limited him; he is satisfied with his weight, whereas his clients seek help and are obese. Most of Dr. Phil's weight is muscle. Most importantly, Dr. Phil's concept, including that written in his book, is not how to lose weight. You could simply take Ultra Slim Fast and lose weight. The aim of his lectures is to help the subjects to change their mentalities and habits. When you do that, it is easy for you to maintain your weight, eat healthily and feel wholesome. Weight is about habits and thinking, not just about going on an Ultra Slim Fast diet. Unless you're prepared to help the people begging to be rescued, mind your business. We're in a [mixed] capitalist country, where profit is to be made even in human services. Let Dr. Phil profit if he so wishes.

Oh, I have to admit that, generally, I find it ironic when obviously and unhealthily overweight talk show hosts bring in experts to help their overweight guests, whereas they couldn't help themselves. It happened often during the 1990s, especially with many new faces hosting talk shows. It's just so funny and weird.

P.S.: Dr. Phil's show is so much like a reality show/soap opera. I love to watch his series 'cuz they're good enough to replace reality TV shows. The case of Erin and Marty with the pregnant daughter, Alexandria, and her sassy sister, Katherine, is a disturbing soap opera. Sometimes I wanted to chide him for seeming so biased (i.e., promoting adoption but discouraging the decision to keep the baby). I think it might be Dr. Phil's pronounced failure in successfully persuading his guests.