Whats the typical max from a 3200+ Venice?

imported_Crusader

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What has been found to be the max pulled out of one of these?

Heres my config

LBBLE 0516EPGW
DFI SLI-D
Geil DDR500
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64
550watt forton psu

Thats pretty much the overclocking specific stuff..

and any recommendations on what to do to pull the max out of my CPU? As far as bios settings is concerned?

Thanks!
 

Shimmishim

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0512-0517 showed the most consistent results of venice's hitting 2.6 to 2.8 very easily. there were some that did 2.9 to 3.0.
 

imported_Crusader

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Thanks to everyone for their replies thus far. Wheres ricemarine??


I tried some OCing and here were my best results-

Default vcore 1.36v: 2.6ghz
1.67vcore: 2.8ghz

Does this sound about right? And please tell me what I need to do to verify 100% stability at these settings? Just run Prime95 for a night? And what settings do I run within that program? Default?

Thanks! This has been fun!
 

the cobbler

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Originally posted by: Crusader
I forgot, what is maximum safe voltage for me to use with my cooler? Or what should be considered "absolute tops"?

here are some identical steppings and how they fared. Looks like they are all right about where you are at...couple better, a few worse:

3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2840 MHZ 1.660V ??? - TheMeatFrog XS
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2763 MHZ 1.664V AIR - politenessman XS
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2808 MHZ 1.580V AIR - Rubescen XS
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2670 MHZ 1.700V AIR - Deus Falsus XS
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2500 MHZ 1.550V AIR - Dermen Ocforums
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2700 MHZ 1.456V AIR - Ziku TWEAK.PL
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2700 MHZ 1.504V AIR - 4X4N XS
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2800 MHZ 1.696V AIR - Wayway XS
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2670 MHZ 1.700V AIR - Deus Falsus amdforums
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2700 MHZ 1.568V H2O - aMp XS
3200+ LBBLE 0515EPGW - 2800 MHZ 1.504V ??? - daddy_fizz XS - prime stable 2h


I'm guessing you have a "T" in the lower right corner of the PCB...your chip likes the volts. Sounds really similar to my 3000+ 0517APAW which does 2550mhz@1.4v, 2700@1.55v and needs almost 1.675v@2800. I can boot and complete SP512k @2900mhz but that's about it. These volt lovers are good candidates for water or phase cooling, imho.

check out the previous week's (0515) 3200+ APAW stepping, they were just monsters:
3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW - 2800 MHZ 1.400V AIR -Burnt_Ram XS-SuperPI 32M,XP-90+ FAN
3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW - 2850 MHZ 1.450V AIR - 4rory XS
3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW - 2800 MHZ 1.408V AIR -D3kMatrix XS/OCforums-prime stable 8h
3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW - 2850 MHZ 1.520V AIR-D3kMatrix XS/OCforums-primestable24 h
3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW - 2906 MHZ 1.550V AIR - s7e9h3n XS , SuperPI 32M stable
3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW - 2900 MHZ 1.408V H2O - musk XS
3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW - 2700 MHZ 1.360V ??? - jinu117 XS - prime stable
3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW - 2950 MHZ 1.500V H2O - JfRsQ XS - stable ???

all taken from Venice Stepping and OC Database@ XtremeSystems.com
 

the cobbler

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Originally posted by: Crusader
I forgot, what is maximum safe voltage for me to use with my cooler? Or what should be considered "absolute tops"?



with that cooler, you should probably stay ~1.6v or a little less, imho. Keep an eye on temps and make sure you don't exceed 50C at full load. But if you need an extra .1v to go from 2700mhz --> 2800mhz, probably not worth the extra voltage.
 

imported_Crusader

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Would you stick with the 2.6@default vcore and try to get that prime stable, or try to get the 2.8@1.67vc stable?

My cooler seems pretty good, @1.72vc I idle at 42C. Is that good enough of an indicator for you to tell what my max vcore should be?
 

n7

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1.7V = way too high IMO, unless you want a dead CPU soon.

I'd stay below 1.55, maybe 1.6V at the highest...
 

imported_Crusader

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Originally posted by: n7
1.7V = way too high IMO, unless you want a dead CPU soon.

I'd stay below 1.55, maybe 1.6V at the highest...

Even if it runs cool at 1.7v? Or is temps not the best thing to always go by?
 

the cobbler

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Originally posted by: Crusader
Would you stick with the 2.6@default vcore and try to get that prime stable, or try to get the 2.8@1.67vc stable?

My cooler seems pretty good, @1.72vc I idle at 42C. Is that good enough of an indicator for you to tell what my max vcore should be?

fwiw, I have a cooler that is probably bit more effective than yours, and I run 24/7 1.55v @ 2700mhz which I feel is a "safe" voltage. CPU idle/load temps are ~23/37C, which is very low for air cooling. I could easily run at volts up to ~1.72v or so on this cooler and still have manageable load temps, but the extra 100-150mhz just isn't worth all that extra juice for everyday use, imho. Even if your temps are under control, extra voltage will slowly kill your CPU.

I guess the biggest question to ask yourself is how soon can you replace your CPU? If you have a few bucks lying around for a new one and don't mind sending yours to an early death to get some extra mhz, then I say go for it;) I'm running mine on the safe end for a while. sometime in the near future will pick up maybe an Opty 165 or 170 and then it's "go time" with the Venice, lol. 3ghz on air or death!
 

imported_Crusader

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Originally posted by: the cobbler
Originally posted by: Crusader
Would you stick with the 2.6@default vcore and try to get that prime stable, or try to get the 2.8@1.67vc stable?

My cooler seems pretty good, @1.72vc I idle at 42C. Is that good enough of an indicator for you to tell what my max vcore should be?

fwiw, I have a cooler that is probably bit more effective than yours, and I run 24/7 1.55v @ 2700mhz which I feel is a "safe" voltage. CPU idle/load temps are ~23/37C, which is very low for air cooling. I could easily run at volts up to ~1.72v or so on this cooler and still have manageable load temps, but the extra 100-150mhz just isn't worth all that extra juice for everyday use, imho. Even if your temps are under control, extra voltage will slowly kill your CPU.

I guess the biggest question to ask yourself is how soon can you replace your CPU? If you have a few bucks lying around for a new one and don't mind sending yours to an early death to get some extra mhz, then I say go for it;) I'm running mine on the safe end for a while. sometime in the near future will pick up maybe an Opty 165 or 170 and then it's "go time" with the Venice, lol. 3ghz on air or death!

Yes.. you actually are reading my mind.

I'm tired of 3200+ speeds, its too slow for me.. and I was going to just upgrade to a X2 3800+ (I do lots of intensive multitasking), but thought I'd try overclocking this one first.. why not you know? A used 3200+ isnt really worth much on the market.

So yeah.. I was hoping to pull as much out of this as possible. This is "go-time" for me.

I'm pretty sure a faster CPU would please me, because I can kill this 3200+ more often than not, just doing my daily routine. But for gaming I know a fast single core is the way to go.. so I wouldnt mind pulling a great stable OC out of this chip if possible.

Whenever I've tried OCing in the past, I can pull big numbers, but rock solid stable has always been a challenge for me. It might run for a week straight, and then blue screen.. so I usually end up putting it back to stock. :thumbsdown:


So I'm looking for my fastest "rock solid stable" OC.. but not sure how to get there.
I'm hoping I can get 2.8ghz stable.. but I doubt it. I'll need 1.72vcore or more to do it. Which is prob going to kill the chip very fast it sounds like.

I think what you are running for an overclock looks like a good baseline for mine too?

Since I can hit 2.6@stock, I dont think 2.7@~1.6v is too much to shoot for and get stable.. do you? I think 2.8 might be more difficult to get stable and stay under 1.6v.

If that doenst work under 1.6v, I'll do 2.6! Thats 600mhz over stock and faster than a 4000+ so not exactly a crappy OC.

But I have saved up enough cash for my 3800+.. so I'm ready if this one dies. I'm just afraid the 3800+ will be beaten by a fast single core in most apps.. so thats why Im investigating this.
 

imported_Crusader

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Erm.. actually looking at those Optys you mentioned.. the 165 and 170 look like great deals for 2mb cache chips.

I like the looks of the 165. Would be super easy to set it at 2.2ghz and have a stable 4400+.
 

mshan

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Any current opinions?

(also, how does a newbie like me read what the steppings of an A64 3200+ Venice are?)