Whats the right modem for me?

Jun 22, 2000
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I will use this modem all the time for mostly online gaming and also for surfing the web. I want this modem to be at least 50,666kbps and have small pings for games. And since i only have one phone line I have heard about some modems that when a call comes it pops up with phone number and you could either answer it or not, that option will be nice since my dads always bitchin about me hogging up the phone line and i hate it when some guy calls offering stuff which pisses me off.

Oh and another thing my uncle has i 3com i think thats always running at 50,666 kps but he has the *70 off and sometimes when people call he cant reconnect and has to restart the comp in other to get online. I would like to avoid that PLZ!

I dont want to spend alot of money on this also but willing to spend around $75 if its a really kick ass modem.

Hope you guys can help me pick the right modem.
 

Musicman6425

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ComputerNewbie,
If you need a modem under $75.00, I would go 3com. I feel, and everyone I talk to feel that 3com USRs are like the Gods in modems. You can get a 3COM U.S. ROBOTICS 56K V90 INT FAX/MODEM PCI for $75.00 from buy.com. I am sure that you can find them cheaper than that. Also, external modems work well. Try staying away from the WIN/HSP/HCF/HSF modems, I get so many calls from people with connection problems and Win modems. Good Luck.
 

veryape

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I don't believe its the modem that supports the incoming call feature. *I believe that there are programs you can download off of the net that will do what you want as far as alerting you to incoming calls. Not sure of any of the names of these programs, I only know that they exist.
 

jaydee

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Award makes quality modems at great prices as well. They are really quiet too. Mine, you can't hear yourself getting on at all. Not sure of recent prices however, well under $75.
 

Tripleshot

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Don't worry ComputerNewbie , Modus will be here shortly to purge your thoughts of ever going with anything more than his $17 lucent winmodem.

Remember,It's your duty to follow every word he says.Anything less than full compliance to his recomendations and you will be deemed unfit to use a computer.You will be lower than the lowest in the eyes of Modus the modem God.

I think I hear him coming. Prepare to bow down,infidel!!
 

rnmcd

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Tell me if I have made a mistake by ordering the ELSA MicroLink 56K External Modem (mfr# 56003)?

If this was a mistake I will send it back before I open it.

Thanks.
 

rnmcd

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I just noticed that the box says it is Win 95, 98 and 2000 compatible. Does that mean it is not Win NT compatible?

 

Mem

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Well Win2000 is the upgrade version of Win NT so you should be fine.
 

Modus

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There are a number of reasons to avoid higher priced "hard modems," especially those made by 3Com/USR, in favor of a common PCI winmodem.

1) Winmodems are dirt cheap.

A quick comparison of average street prices shows that while a good Lucent LT or Rockwell/Conexant HCF winmodem (the AOpen FM56-PM is a nice example) can easily be found for less than $20 US, the cheapest hardware modem costs twice as much: $39 plus shipping and handling. And for a 3Com part, you'll pay even more. By contrast, you can sometimes find winmodems for $5 after rebates at electronics retailers, or even for free with special promotions.

Everything else we put in our computers is subject to a price/performance ratio. In other words, if the performance of a more expensive part does not scale linearly with its price, we don't buy it. (RDRAM, anyone?) The same reasoning must be applied to hardware modems. They certainly don't perform twice as well as winmodems of half the price, and as we'll see, they often don't perform any better at all.

2) Ping times and throughput are not an issue.

Modern Winmodems such as those based on the Lucent LT chipset will display ping times below 100ms and connect speeds around 48000, which is more than adequate for any Internet activity, including online gaming. Any recent softmodem -- especially the HCF variety, where the hardware handles a bit more of the duty -- should exhibit similar performance. Below, a cut and paste job from a generic Lucent LT v.90 PCI, which sells for as low as $17:

C:\WINDOWS>ping -n 10 router.infoserve.net

Pinging router.infoserve.net [199.175.157.4] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=101ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253

Ping statistics for 199.175.157.4:
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 90ms, Maximum = 105ms, Average = 98ms

You may object that pinging an ISP would always yield good results. Actually, it's the only fair way to compare latency between modems. Pinging your ISP reduces the number of variables down to three: your modem's performance, the quality of your phone lines, and the nature of your ISP's modem pool. If we were to compare modems by pinging a fixed point on the Internet, we would quickly introduce several more uncontrolled variables: Internet traffic, server load, number of hops, etc.

Even if you ping your own ISP with an expensive hardware modem, I think you'll find it extremely difficult to match these numbers.

Not bad for $17, eh? ;)

3) CPU utilization is minimal.

One of the main arguments against winmodems has been that they consume CPU cycles. Fortunately, manufacturers have always made sure to set minimum CPU guidelines so that the effect is not noticeable. If CPU usage was ever a problem, it certainly isn't today.

CPU power has increased many, many times faster than the technology behind softmodems. For instance, the CPU usage of a typical winmodem hovers below 5% on a Celeron 333. This is in the range of the power required by Windows to spin an hourglass cursor; it's certainly not something that will eat into your game play significantly. And now we have people running around with 1 GHz processors. Any drop in frame rate will barely be measurable, let alone visible.

4) They are reliable.

In my consulting business, I've sold dozens of PC's equipped with the cheapest Winmodems I could find. Only one has ever come back with a genuine hardware defect.

Many ISP support techs have a grudge against winmodems because they feel these types of modems are responsible for an innordinate number of support calls. There are a couple of reasons for this. First, almost all new computers sold today use winmodems; a person with a new computer and a modem problem will likely be using a winmodem, simply because they are more prevalent. Second, winmodems actually require the drivers they ship with. A new PC user who can't tell the difference between his RAM and his hard drive space will feel his eyes glaze over when confronted with a manual telling him how to install softmodem drivers. Instinct tells him to phone his "Internet guys" and get them to help.

In truth, winmodems are no more apt to fail than hardware modems, and probably less so, because they have fewer electronic components.

5) Driver/OS support is excellent.

The Lucent LT, for example, supports Windows 2000, Windows 9x, Linux (see http://www.linmodems.org under the Vendor section), and even the obscure BeOS. Lucent also seems comitted to releasing a new driver every few months, which means your modem's performance will always be as high as possible.

6) Affordable broadband Internet technology puts any analogue modem to shame.

Anyone using the Internet for more than email and chat sees the need for widely available broadband Internet access to replace our antiquated 56k connections. Trying to enjoy streaming audio or video over a modem connection is like trying to sip a thick milkshake through a thin straw. With the availability and affordability of high speed Internet access growing at a steady rate, it would be foolish to invest more than the minimum amount in modem technology that is already obsolete.

So when you consider the facts, there are very few valid reasons to avoid winmodems.

Modus
 

Eli

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Hehe!!


I agree with Modus. Winmodems have matured. Get a Lucent chipset version..

Hell, if the onboard 56k modem on this PCChips K7-800LMR connects at 52k(just like all the other Winmodems i've had), and downloads at 5.4k/sec, you could probably get any Winmodem ;)
 

KotchY

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HA, i got old 33.6k modem in this comp that i gota out a old 486, and i get great pings 140-220, in tfc witch is outstanding compared to outers, i dl great too
 

Heifetz

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I'm currently stuck with a Zoom Ext 56k Modem over the summer. Its actually turned out to be ok (Although I still sourly miss my 10Mbit Ethernet) One of its best features is its "Channel 2" function. With a rom upgrade, it'll detect callwaiting perfectly and depending on the initialization string you'll want to use, it will either disconnect upon call-waiting, stay on the line or give you a choice. Besides this call-waiting feature, its also very speedy. Using FreeInternet ISP, I usually connect 5k+ and get very very speedy downloads. Definately one of the top modems out there. And plus, as an external, save you the trouble of installation.


Heifetz
 

wyvrn

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I ROFL every time I see one of Modus's cut'n'paste threads, though he is adding more information this time :). A winmodem will do you well (mine does) when line quality is good (I finally got a telephone line on a clean drop :) ), but if you have any sort of noise, then forget it. Even though I like my $20 creative modem, it does get knocked offline more than my hardware odem ever did.