What's the purpose of a tie?

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
I like ties. makes me feel more mature.

Wait until you have to wear a bow-tie on stage for hours and faint from the heat.

<----------Chorus

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: darkxshade

Originally posted by: meltdown75
In all seriousness, it isn't a cultural ritual at all, merely a component of a paradigm of dress and fashion. Everything we wear says something about ourselves or how we wish to present ourselves at any given time. Businessmen wear a tie to say "I am professional or formal today", much the same as the punk rocker that wears the spiked mohawk is conveying his desire to distance himself from traditional paradigms of dress. While ties serve little function physically, they speak volumes about how that person is hoping to be portrayed.

I understand and agree to what you're saying but this wasn't always the case. I'm no historian but I'd wager this was not its intent when created centuries ago. My gripe is how such a fad came to be. If I invented a tie for pants (I hereby call it a "bie" - b for bottom, t for top) and use it as an excuse to cover my crotch, are you telling me centuries from now, people will consider this as a means of displaying a facade of professionalism?

In the rodeo community...

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Analog

Originally posted by: Jeff7
"I paid $10 for a tie, which is supposedly a sign that I am of considerably greater value and importance than a person without a tie."

Mmmm, finely woven and dyed worm excretions.

Originally posted by: jjsole
Wearing ties is one of the more moronic cultural rituals that we have.

One of the many moronic cultural rituals we have.

Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
I think a couple hundred years from now people will look back on ties the same way we look back on those white wigs me wore a couple hundred years back from now.

"Gone the way of the poodle, and your primitive notions of modesty. Aaahhhhh, brisk!"

Its amazing how you are treated differently when you wear a tie. People are more courteous, they pay attention to your needs (as a customer), and generally treat you with greater respect. I see that all the time.

so your saying if i wear a tie over my tshirt people will treat me with greater respect?

 

[sandorski]

The Tool of the Oppressor! The Bra for Men!! Join with me, remove your Ties, and we'll start the fires of Revolution that will set all Men Free!!!!


err something like that...:Q

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Analog

Originally posted by: Jeff7
"I paid $10 for a tie, which is supposedly a sign that I am of considerably greater value and importance than a person without a tie."

Mmmm, finely woven and dyed worm excretions.

Originally posted by: jjsole
Wearing ties is one of the more moronic cultural rituals that we have.

One of the many moronic cultural rituals we have.

Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
I think a couple hundred years from now people will look back on ties the same way we look back on those white wigs me wore a couple hundred years back from now.

"Gone the way of the poodle, and your primitive notions of modesty. Aaahhhhh, brisk!"

Its amazing how you are treated differently when you wear a tie. People are more courteous, they pay attention to your needs (as a customer), and generally treat you with greater respect. I see that all the time.

so your saying if i wear a tie over my tshirt people will treat me with greater respect?

yes, absolutely - try it sometime

 

[sandorski]

I think we should bring back Robes and Wigs with Pony Tails. That would rock.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: jjsole
Wearing ties is one of the more moronic cultural rituals that we have.

One of the many moronic cultural rituals we have.

No argument there.

Originally posted by: Analog
Its amazing how you are treated differently when you wear a tie. People are more courteous, they pay attention to your needs (as a customer), and generally treat you with greater respect. I see that all the time.

No argument there either, atleast in the business field, but I'll take my chances whenever possible w/o one. Anyone who discounts me because I'm not wearing a tie isn't someone that I'm interested in impressing. Ties are only worth a first impression and won't do anything for a longer term business relationship.

 

[hiromizu]

I think it tastefully accentuates the properness and professionalism of a person. Good shoes are even more important in this respect.

 

[Anubis]

IMO anyone who passes any sort of judgment on anyone based on the tie/shoes/whatever they may or may not have on are all people who this planet would be better off without, its no different the judging someone because of the color of their skin, their weight or their looks and gender

 

[BurnItDwn]

The tie keeps the shirt clean when you eat. Soup, wings, and anything with BBQ sauce wind up on your face, hands, and tie rather than face, hands and shirt.

 

[hiromizu]

Originally posted by: Anubis
IMO anyone who passes any sort of judgment on anyone based on the tie/shoes/whatever they may or may not have on are all people who this planet would be better off without, its no different the judging someone because of the color of their skin, their weight or their looks and gender

That is correct - however you cannot control that. You can however control how you wish to be perceived by a shallow audience and that effort is what matters.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: hiromizu

Originally posted by: Anubis
IMO anyone who passes any sort of judgment on anyone based on the tie/shoes/whatever they may or may not have on are all people who this planet would be better off without, its no different the judging someone because of the color of their skin, their weight or their looks and gender

That is correct - however you cannot control that. You can however control how you wish to be perceived by a shallow audience and that effort is what matters.

think its time to start a revoloution

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: MiataNC
A tie is an arrow pointing to where the magic happens

KT

 

[Randum]

yeah just use the tie to wipe up your food. that way it makes for a neat crusty design later in the day or a snack for later, depending on the food it is dipped in.

 

[Ns1]

I have no idea about the purpose of the tie, but I go absolutely mad when I see a guy who doesn't dimple their tie, or does a fucked up dimple, or some half assed crease or something.


I <3 ties

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: hiromizu

Originally posted by: Anubis
IMO anyone who passes any sort of judgment on anyone based on the tie/shoes/whatever they may or may not have on are all people who this planet would be better off without, its no different the judging someone because of the color of their skin, their weight or their looks and gender

That is correct - however you cannot control that. You can however control how you wish to be perceived by a shallow audience and that effort is what matters.

think its time to start a revoloution

http://youtube.com/watch?v=87yq372R4Ts

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Ns1
I have no idea about the purpose of the tie, but I go absolutely mad when I see a guy who doesn't dimple their tie, or does a fucked up dimple, or some half assed crease or something.


I <3 ties

dimple?

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: meltdown75
In all seriousness, it isn't a cultural ritual at all, merely a component of a paradigm of dress and fashion. Everything we wear says something about ourselves or how we wish to present ourselves at any given time. Businessmen wear a tie to say "I am professional or formal today", much the same as the punk rocker that wears the spiked mohawk is conveying his desire to distance himself from traditional paradigms of dress. While ties serve little function physically, they speak volumes about how that person is hoping to be portrayed.

That's a croc imo. Ties are an extension of people's need for superficial statements about themselves, and doesn't reflect worth sh!t imo how professional someone is, which can be assessed much more accurately by simply speaking to a person for about ten seconds.

That's your opinion. My post was based on fact. Contrary to whatever you think, what people wear says something about them, intentionally or not. Ties are a perfect example.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Ns1
I have no idea about the purpose of the tie, but I go absolutely mad when I see a guy who doesn't dimple their tie, or does a fucked up dimple, or some half assed crease or something.


I <3 ties

dimple?

http://www.necktieaficionado.com/Tie-Dimple.html

KT

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Ns1
I have no idea about the purpose of the tie, but I go absolutely mad when I see a guy who doesn't dimple their tie, or does a fucked up dimple, or some half assed crease or something.


I <3 ties

dimple?

Are you serious? lol

thanks KT

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: hiromizu

Originally posted by: Anubis
IMO anyone who passes any sort of judgment on anyone based on the tie/shoes/whatever they may or may not have on are all people who this planet would be better off without, its no different the judging someone because of the color of their skin, their weight or their looks and gender

That is correct - however you cannot control that. You can however control how you wish to be perceived by a shallow audience and that effort is what matters.

I wonder how many guys here wore a tie to an interview?

Koing

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Ns1
I have no idea about the purpose of the tie, but I go absolutely mad when I see a guy who doesn't dimple their tie, or does a fucked up dimple, or some half assed crease or something.


I <3 ties

dimple?

He's been watching too much Queer Eye.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Ns1
I have no idea about the purpose of the tie, but I go absolutely mad when I see a guy who doesn't dimple their tie, or does a fucked up dimple, or some half assed crease or something.


I <3 ties

dimple?

http://www.necktieaficionado.com/Tie-Dimple.html

KT

I've never knowingly done that...

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: darkxshade

Originally posted by: meltdown75
In all seriousness, it isn't a cultural ritual at all, merely a component of a paradigm of dress and fashion. Everything we wear says something about ourselves or how we wish to present ourselves at any given time. Businessmen wear a tie to say "I am professional or formal today", much the same as the punk rocker that wears the spiked mohawk is conveying his desire to distance himself from traditional paradigms of dress. While ties serve little function physically, they speak volumes about how that person is hoping to be portrayed.

I understand and agree to what you're saying but this wasn't always the case. I'm no historian but I'd wager this was not its intent when created centuries ago. My gripe is how such a fad came to be. If I invented a tie for pants (I hereby call it a "bie" - b for bottom, t for top) and use it as an excuse to cover my crotch, are you telling me centuries from now, people will consider this as a means of displaying a facade of professionalism?

I'm not about to explain the concepts in my post to you. They're real, not something I just made up. Do some research on paradigms of self-expression such as fashion. Everything we wear conveys a message of some sort, whether we want it to or not.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Ns1
I have no idea about the purpose of the tie, but I go absolutely mad when I see a guy who doesn't dimple their tie, or does a fucked up dimple, or some half assed crease or something.


I <3 ties

dimple?

He's been watching too much Queer Eye.

I have this OCD like obsession with dimples/ties. I've spent 30 minutes + before making the perfect dimple and ensuring that the tie falls exactly in the middle of my belt.

Some ties are better suited for making dimples than others. When I buy a tie that I can't make the perfect dimple on, I just stop using the tie ^_^