Whats the profit margin on chain pizza stores?

[jerk-chicken]

what kind of pizza is that

 

[xaeniac]

Anyone in this thread know anything about homemade pizza? Just wondering.

Always looking for a better recipe, but this one is so very hard to beat....

Thin Pizza Dough
(enough for two pizzas)


Ingredients
2 1/4 cup flour (can mix a little wheat flour; do as you please)
1 package of yeast
1 tsp salt
3/4 cup of warm water (may need to add a little but do so sparingly)
1 Tbsp Sugar
3-6 tablespoons olive oil approximately


Method
Mix dry ingredients together. Mix warm water into mixture until it picks up most of the mixture and then add olive oil to finish the rest. Dough will be sticky. Add a little flour to hand so you can start kneading. Knead for 7-10 minutes (make sure to knead at least 5-7 minutes). Divide into two parts and roll into a dough ball. Put each ball into a bowl and cover. Let rise for 2-3 hours, it should about double in size. Now you are ready to roll the dough into pizza crusts. After rolling out poke holes in dough with fork. I always brush with olive oil on dough before topping. Top dough as you want. Bake on highest setting oven can go. I baked @ 500 degrees F for ~8-11 minutes. My recommendation is check @ 8 minutes and proceed from there as ovens do cook differently.

 

[alkemyst]

Depends on location. For most franchises the menu pricing is sort of in a range. A high rental can destroy a slow business.

During the boom many chains that would normally be successful opened and folded when the major apartment/condo complexes they were built around proved numbers in the 90% vacancy rate.

Also not all pizza chains use the same quality of ingredients. I am finding the Papa John's near me very good for quality and with their buy any pizza at full price and get a large one topping for 30 cents economical. We buy about $50 ($60 with tip) on a Friday night. If Papa John's doesn't have a good deal the local "New York Style" place is a higher quality alternative.

In the end, the kids don't really give a crap what kind of pizza it is.

 

[alkemyst]

Thin Pizza Dough
(enough for two pizzas)


Ingredients
2 1/4 cup flour (can mix a little wheat flour; do as you please)
1 package of yeast
1 tsp salt
3/4 cup of warm water (may need to add a little but do so sparingly)
1 Tbsp Sugar
3-6 tablespoons olive oil approximately


Method
Mix dry ingredients together. Mix warm water into mixture until it picks up most of the mixture and then add olive oil to finish the rest. Dough will be sticky. Add a little flour to hand so you can start kneading. Knead for 7-10 minutes (make sure to knead at least 5 minutes). Divide into two parts and roll into a dough ball. Put each ball into a bowl and cover. Let rise for 2-3 hours, it should about double in size. Now you are ready to roll the dough into pizza crusts. After rolling out poke holes in dough with fork. I always brush with olive oil on dough before topping. Top dough as you want. Bake on highest setting oven can go. I baked @ 500 degrees F for ~8-11 minutes. My recommendation is check @ 8 minutes and proceed from there as ovens do cook differently.

Making your own pizza is fun, but don't expect to come in cheaper than the cheap pizza places.

I used to make my own pizzas (I just used Boboli (sp?) crusts and sometimes my own french breads), high quality cheese and ingredients plus making a nice sauce. It's a lot of time and cost...plus without a good pizza oven hard to compete with your local 'real' pizza place.

It's a fun couple project though.

 

[zerocool84]

I don't have a problem eating chain pizza but I think Papa John's is the worst of the bunch. I do like the garlic butter sauce but other than that, they hardly put any toppings on their pizza.

 

[alkemyst]

I don't have a problem eating chain pizza but I think Papa John's is the worst of the bunch. I do like the garlic butter sauce but other than that, they hardly put any toppings on their pizza.

My Papa John's definitely piles the toppings on.

My usual order is a:

5 Cheese Tuscan

Parm/Romano Chesse

Roma Tomato

Meat Lovers (for our 15 yo)

Pepperoni (for our 11 yo)

Hawaiian Volcano (an Hawaiian pizza with Jalepinos)

Sometimes a Garden

The toppings literally fall off as you are eating.

 

[angminas]

Thanks for tipping.

 

[:emaN resU]

Papa John's barely puts any toppings on their pizzas, so I can't imagine they even cost $4 to make.

 

[JulesMaximus]

depends on the location.

hell it depends who is working that day. Blanket statements just make you look like more of an ass.

Cut me down all you want but you don't know good pizza from your ass... or from my ass if you think papa johns makes good pizza.

 

[mnewsham]

Cut me down all you want but you don't know good pizza from your ass... or from my ass if you think papa johns makes good pizza.

Seeing as at most, it's just your own opinion. You are just an asshole. :thumbsup:

Many would say a mistaken asshole, but again, the pizza part at least is open to interpretation.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Ive never sold a pizza in my life, but I figure its a pretty high margin business. Thats the only thing keeping places like that run down Little Ceasers in business, which was in bed with Hormel.

 

[Jeff7]

Seeing as at most, it's just your own opinion. You are just an asshole. :thumbsup:

Many would say a mistaken asshole, but again, the pizza part at least is open to interpretation.

Pizza is serious business. Or something like that.

 

[cubby1223]

I live in NJ. There are a ton pizza parlors in my area, and more open in the summer. Sadly, most fail. The competition is fierce. I'm about 5 blocks from the North Wildwood boardwalk. The people who have been doing it for a while and are successful probably make $500k easy.

Manco Manco in Ocean City, NJ were charged with $1M in tax evasion charges between 2007-2011. That's an insane amount of money.

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/20...zeria-owners-arrested-on-tax-evasion-charges/

New Jersey? $1M tax evasion? Business likely owned by the mafia.

 

[cubby1223]

depends on the location.

hell it depends who is working that day. Blanket statements just make you look like more of an ass.

No, he's spot on. Papa Johns sucks.

Just because you may be stuck in a region that only has Papa Johns, Dominoes, Pizza Hut, & Little Caesar's, doesn't make Papa Johns suck any less.

 

[slag]

Anyone in this thread know anything about homemade pizza? Just wondering.

Screw home made pizza. People order pizza because they are too busy to cook. I'm out working in the garage, or doing yard work, or have 4 hours of kids soccer and baseball practice, or whatever the case, the last thing I want to do is spend time in the kitchen making pizza at 9 pm so we can eat.

I like papa johns pizza. It's delicious, has a good crust and toppings, and the garlic butter sauce is the bomb. Sure, there are better pies out there, but not for 6-8 bucks as you can often get them on discount. And, it feeds 3-4 people whereas a footlong sub is 1-2 max for just a dollar less.

 

[slag]

No, he's spot on. Papa Johns sucks.

Just because you may be stuck in a region that only has Papa Johns, Dominoes, Pizza Hut, & Little Caesar's, doesn't make Papa Johns suck any less.

No, he's right, you are wrong. Papa johns is good daily pizza food for a good price.

 

[rudder]

Do these franchisees even break even at $8.50 for a large speciality pie?

If the volume is there. I can't imagine even a papa johns loaded pizza costing more than a couple of dollars in ingredients.

Little Ceasars sells $5 pizzas and they stay in business.

 

[rsutoratosu]

Im in the process of building my brick oven in back yard.. ill never have to order pizza again..

pizza dough from my local baker is 1.50 and ill supply the rest

 

[Newell Steamer]

Papa Johns

I stopped right there.

This dude gives away free pizzas on Super Bowl. He is making money hand over fist - end of story.

Also, his pizza is total fucking shit. I can't figure out how and why people like his disgusting pizza.

I've swallowed my own vurps and they tasted 100 time better than the steaming garabage that tries to pass for pizza from this dude bro.

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

when it's 3am and you've been drinking you're not looking for something like a prosciutto topped pizza. you just want food. crappy oversized pizza is where it's at. who's going to have time to make their own pizza at home and eat it before they pass out.

 

[mnewsham]

Just ordered a large pepperoni & 3 cheese blend pizza cooked well done. Also got a 20oz mountain dew and a 20oz rootbeer.

All for $9 (including ~$3 for tip)

 

[Newell Steamer]

when it's 3am and you've been drinking you're not looking for something like a prosciutto topped pizza. you just want food. crappy oversized pizza is where it's at. who's going to have time to make their own pizza at home and eat it before they pass out.

Wilco. Foxtrot. Tango.

We are talking about normal, basic pizza here. Pepperoni, cheese, sausage, olives, whatever. Nothing fancy.

Papa Johns can't even get the basics rights; their cheese pizza tastes like salted lumpy oily vomit, on a pile of blubber.

 

[gorcorps]

Wilco. Foxtrot. Tango.

We are talking about normal, basic pizza here. Pepperoni, cheese, sausage, olives, whatever. Nothing fancy.

Papa Johns can't even get the basics rights; their cheese pizza tastes like salted lumpy oily vomit, on a pile of blubber.

It's delicious

their garlic parm breadsticks are greasy goodness too

 

[mnewsham]

Just ordered a large pepperoni & 3 cheese blend pizza cooked well done. Also got a 20oz mountain dew and a 20oz rootbeer.

All for $9 (including ~$3 for tip)

Lunch time

 

[Newell Steamer]

It's delicious

their garlic parm breadsticks are greasy goodness too

Let us know when you are on the toilet holding on for dear life.