Whats the problem? whats the solution?

[MraK]

I currently have a Core2duo, 2GB OCZ 1066Mhz ram, and 1 BFG 8800GTX.

At first i would think my monitor, its an old 20inch SCEPTRE LCD - i noticed ghosting here and there so i know its part with my monitor but..

when in normal areas where ghosting happens in a seldom aspect, but in high fast paced action it starts to lag, what gives?

is it just my monitor or do i actually have to get more ram or maybe another GTX for SLI??
The rest of my computer specs are listed in my sig.

So any idea would help thanks.

 

[Syntax Error]

Crysis is a very demanding game, don't be surprised if your 8800GTX will slow down in some parts during the game. If you bought the card at launch, well, welcome to the harsh reality of a game that actually is a match for the year-long comfort of smooth FPS than the 8800GTX allowed for.

 

[InFeXiOn]

OH NOES.

Crysis be laggin', yo.

Alert the interwebs.

No, but seriously, this is normal. Crysis is FUBAR.

 

[MraK]

oh ok thanks, just ordered another GTX 5 min ago after reading your post, i had already been planning on getting another card but now that you said that it gives me more reason to get it soon like 5 min ago lol. THANKS Syntax Error.

As for ram would it hurt to add 2 more gigs of ram (4GB total)???? and finally since obviously my monitor ghosts on some of my new games most especially Crysis, what monitor do you recommend, since im goin to run SLI with my GTX soon???

 

[MraK]

oh and since my card is DX10 capable which VISTA OS should i get? home,premium,ultimate??

 

[Syntax Error]

Crysis doesn't have very good SLI support, if at all, until its next patch, so another GTX won't be so good.

Not to be contradictory or anything for thinking I recommended buying another GTX, but I really believe you don't get another GTX, but rather, wait for the Geforce 9-series in February, you'll save more money that way by being patient and getting a 9-series (or whatever AMD has if it's better in that time). One 8800GTX should do you well until then.

 

[Toadster]

heck - even my rig stuttered during one of the end firefights... flat out crysis is a HUGE PC PIG

but it was a fun trip!

 

[nitromullet]

Don't expect miracles even with GTX SLI in Crysis... For reference, a 3-way SLI setup with three 8800 Ultras, a QX9650 @ 3.33GHz, and 4GB RAM still only gets 43.2 average FPS at 1920x1200 0xAA/1xAF at "high quality" settings.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3183&p=3

 

[Mr Fox]

Originally posted by: MrAK
oh ok thanks, just ordered another GTX 5 min ago after reading your post, i had already been planning on getting another card but now that you said that it gives me more reason to get it soon like 5 min ago lol. THANKS Syntax Error.

As for ram would it hurt to add 2 more gigs of ram (4GB total)???? and finally since obviously my monitor ghosts on some of my new games most especially Crysis, what monitor do you recommend, since im goin to run SLI with my GTX soon???

You are wasting your money there.... you are lagged because your Memory is maxxed...

you need more memory, and it will make it better...

but it complicates things, as then you will need a 64 bit O/S...

 

[Puffnstuff]

Crysis makes my rig stutter at high settings during intense combat situations. I ended up dropping it back to medium settings to I could keep it playable all the time. And in crysis my g92 gts will best the gtx at the resolution I use, 1280x1024.

 

[MraK]

well since it kinda too late for me to cancel my order on the extra video card there, i understand that it could possibly be a memory problem so Ive decided to order 2 more gigs of memory from OCZ and ive seen that the only way I'm going to be seeing DX10 on crysis is to get Vista, but what version is the best bet? any recommendations?

oh and btw as for the monitor im aiming for, is a Hanns-G 28 inch widescreen LCD monitor a good choice for a gamer like me? and if it is il be ordering that right away along with the extra memory and maybe Vista too.

 

[Mr Fox]

Originally posted by: MrAK
well since it kinda too late for me to cancel my order on the extra video card there, i understand that it could possibly be a memory problem so Ive decided to order 2 more gigs of memory from OCZ and ive seen that the only way I'm going to be seeing DX10 on crysis is to get Vista, but what version is the best bet? any recommendations?

oh and btw as for the monitor im aiming for, is a Hanns-G 28 inch widescreen LCD monitor a good choice for a gamer like me? and if it is il be ordering that right away along with the extra memory and maybe Vista too.

With that board I would look at 2x2 Gig... I doubt you will be stable with all 4 slots filled with unsupported memory...

NV chipsets are famous for being very picky....


All you need to do is use the optimization guide over at tweakguide.....

If it has not shipped you can always make changes.....

 

[MraK]

if your speaking of the video card, i was noticing that you already are running 2 GTXs and that your telling me its a waste of money to get another one?? just curious since you said that earlier as with adding more gigs, wouldnt it still be stable if im using dual channel memory like the memory i am currently using? since you have somewhat of a doubt on your part could you please explain a little to as why it wouldnt be stable on my board?? I mean my board is discontinued but one of the reasons why i got this board in the past was coz it had alot of nice dependable features.

 

[Mr Fox]

Originally posted by: MrAK
if your speaking of the video card, i was noticing that you already are running 2 GTXs and that your telling me its a waste of money to get another one?? just curious since you said that earlier as with adding more gigs, wouldnt it still be stable if im using dual channel memory like the memory i am currently using? since you have somewhat of a doubt on your part could you please explain a little to as why it wouldnt be stable on my board?? I mean my board is discontinued but one of the reasons why i got this board in the past was coz it had alot of nice dependable features.

I am running only one of the cards.. my board that I currently have will not support multi Gpu...Using NV cards.............

yes you would gain very little if anything ... SLI is quickly becoming a very bad joke... the extra cost never yields that much performance

that particular game is at aprox. 65% memory usage... so that is at this point that even with accounting for pre-fetch(Vista 64 Feature)... would be over 2 gigs....

As far as stability with all 4 slots full NV Chipsets have a very poor track record when it comes to populating all DIMM's... you might get it to work... but that is complicated by the memory that you have that is not supported.. but you have been able to get run... it would be a suprize if you could get it stable...with 4 .

 

[MraK]

I finally got a hold of a sales rep at the website i ordered the card from. Anyways i was able to cancel my order for the new card. So Mr. Fox as you were saying i should just get 2 2gigs ram sticks rather than 2 gigs to slap onto the board thus filling up all for slots? hmmm For the memroy that i am running right now im not sure it comes in 4GB (2x2GB) but ill check as look around.

As for the monitor dilemma, i read some post from other people, that if your running applications such as games like Crysis, on 28 inch or higher LCD monitors, that i would be needing 2 video cards, just so the game could run abit smoother on higher resolutions. My questions is, if i was to order a 28 or heck a 30 inch LCD with max res 2560x1600 wouldnt my one card alone be struggling with a big monitor like that?????

 

[Mr Fox]

Originally posted by: MrAK
I finally got a hold of a sales rep at the website i ordered the card from. Anyways i was able to cancel my order for the new card. So Mr. Fox as you were saying i should just get 2 2gigs ram sticks rather than 2 gigs to slap onto the board thus filling up all for slots? hmmm For the memroy that i am running right now im not sure it comes in 4GB (2x2GB) but ill check as look around.

I think that you should avoid filling all slots... that is what gives the memory controller issues, and would kill your overclock more than likely.

Originally posted by: MrAK
As for the monitor dilemma, i read some post from other people, that if your running applications such as games like Crysis, on 28 inch or higher LCD monitors, that i would be needing 2 video cards, just so the game could run abit smoother on higher resolutions. My questions is, if i was to order a 28 or heck a 30 inch LCD with max res 2560x1600 wouldnt my one card alone be struggling with a big monitor like that?????

Don't let a Piece Of Shit EA Game influence your hardware purchases. Crysis is a very poorly coded game that has many technical issues..... I have had this game crash the Vid Card Driver.... It is the only time that I have ever seen that happen consistently... that by itself says alot.

Remember who sponsored the game, and keep that in mind....


Remember Rule #1 Of Marketing.....

Make them believe that they need it......

EA has always put out Crappy games that push hardware.....

 

[HOOfan 1]

Originally posted by: MrAK
oh and since my card is DX10 capable which VISTA OS should i get? home,premium,ultimate??

if you think the performance of Crysis in bad in DX9 on Windows XP....then you certainly will not like how it performs in DX10 on Vista.

 

[MraK]

hmmmm pretty solid info there Mr Fox and HOOfan 1. I for one kinda notice whats the deal with Crysis? I mean i read that it only sold less than 40,000 or so copy here in the states saying that its overhyped and yet i would just like my gaming experience to be well satisfying. As for DX9 on windows XP, it pretty ok but nothing groundbreaking as i thought it would be, like seeing it in Crysis and what people say that DX10 is the next generation for gaming, i just thought that Vista is the way to go in order to see DX10 on todays resource demanding games such as Crysis.

 

[HOOfan 1]

DX10 does not improve performance...it makes the game look better but perform worse.

Also EA did not produce this game....Crytek did. EA only publishes and distributes it.

 

[Syntax Error]

I thought it was a fine game, but its graphics requirements are hugely immense...don't be shaken by the fact that you can't run the game too well...none of us can! We have to wait for next-generation cards (or hopefully, the miracle patch that claims to "improve performance") to experience Crysis at smooth framerates.

Never listen to hearsay and unverified claims made by random people, the extent of which people like or dislike DirectX 10 is highly subjective. In my honest opinion, DX10 is too immature and young to be used effectively, and don't pay attention to those Microsoft ads that compare DX9 to Halo for PC and DX10 to Crysis...that's simply ridiculous. DX9 works fine, looks brilliant, and performs better at the time. Period.

 

[Mr Fox]

Originally posted by: HOOfan 1
DX10 does not improve performance...it makes the game look better but perform worse.

Also EA did not produce this game....Crytek did. EA only publishes and distributes it.

No but they are who is responsible for yet another beta release game... we beta test it, and maybe in 3-4 years they will fix all the issues.....

By that time 3-4 other POS games will be out.............

Crysis probably had more copies given away in Vid Card Promotions than what actually sold retail......

Mine was free... but it is ironic that even single player crashes in a very big way... and the patch... it is quite obvious that they ran into a very big pile because of all the delays

PC gaming is dying because of these issues.

All the games are re-hashes... and the creativity factor is non-existent .

 

[MraK]

Pretty convincing info there Syntax, thinking that it was just my pc that was just weak for this game and the fact that it works flawlessly with all my other games make s me think that Crysis is telling me i should get more resource power, i really do enjoy the game coz of its graphics and heck even the gameplay but its just all funny how this whole topic started all from just a little lag in Crysis having me to almost spend another $1000 or what not this xmas. lol

Now i dont know what i what to get for myself for xmas lol maybe a bigger monitor perhaps to somewhat enhance my visual needs of my games and heck the movies i watch. I think ill stick to one card for now and leave it at DX9 and XP since DX10 is really new and Vista is well unstable in the sense.

Oh and Mr Fox i just read from a post in this site that with my board it could handle all 4 slots being used up for the fact the some other people with the same board as mine has had no problems whatsoever 4 gigs and all 4 slots being used up, But thanks for the tip tho Fox.

 

[HOOfan 1]

Originally posted by: Syntax Error
Never listen to hearsay and unverified claims made by random people, the extent of which people like or dislike DirectX 10 is highly subjective.

what unverified claim? Every site around the internet has shown that DX10 Crysis is more demanding than DX9

 

[Syntax Error]

Originally posted by: HOOfan 1

Originally posted by: Syntax Error
Never listen to hearsay and unverified claims made by random people, the extent of which people like or dislike DirectX 10 is highly subjective.

are you talking about the "claims" that have been verified by many sites around the internet...that it is a fact that Crysis is more demanding in DX10 mode?

Guess that isn't enough verification...by the way...I believe you are also a member or the group "random people"

I was referring to those who always spew out crap about "you have to upgrade NOW for DX10", "DX10 is the future, upgrade now!" or "graphics are greatly improved in DX10". I guess you missed the point.

 

[HOOfan 1]

I must have...I apologize.