What's the possibility of a socket 1155 CPU faster than an i7-2600k?

Dave3000

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What the possiblity of Intel releasing something faster than an i7 2600k, like a 2700k or 2800k, that will use socket 1155? The reason I ask is because I can't yet justify upgrading to an i7 2600k from an i7 920 and want to wait for something faster than a 2600k.
 

mnewsham

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ivy bridge is going to be socket 1155, Q3-Q4 of 2011 (tho i suspect CES 2012 more likely)
 

Rifter

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it will get ivy bridge which will be faster, probably only quad core but still should be faster than a 2600k.
 

IGemini

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From what it sounds like, Ivy Bridge will come sometime next year and could potentially bring 6-8 cores to LGA 1155, and probably has the naming of i7 3xxx. Intel never does a die-shrink without cramming more transistors on the die, especially when they're skipping a step on the shrink.
 

Rifter

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From what it sounds like, Ivy Bridge will come sometime next year and could potentially bring 6-8 cores to LGA 1155, and probably has the naming of i7 3xxx. Intel never does a die-shrink without cramming more transistors on the die, especially when they're skipping a step on the shrink.

i would be surprised if ivy made it more than quad on 1155, 6 and 8 core will be LGA2011. But i guess intel could surprise us all and actually not screw over 1155 like they did 1156 but i wouldnt count on it.
 

dougri

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4 core faster at stock? I'd bet on it. 6 core? I think so. 6 core unlocked? reserved for LGA2011 methinks.
 

StinkyPinky

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it will get ivy bridge which will be faster, probably only quad core but still should be faster than a 2600k.

I think they will do a 6-core CPU. By then they will have 8-core AMD cpus to compete against in mid-range.
 

sxr7171

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Those parts may be 200-400MHz faster, but why bother waiting for them when you can take today's parts to 4.5GHz relatively easily right now.
 

RobDickinson

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No way do Intel release a new socket along side the fastest chip that will ever run on it.

Well apart from the pentium 66 I guess... :D
 

mnewsham

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Those parts may be 200-400MHz faster, but why bother waiting for them when you can take today's parts to 4.5GHz relatively easily right now.

Ivy Bridge might bring stock clocked 4Ghz quad cores and lower clocked hex and octo cores.
 

Castiel

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I see 1155 sticking around till atleast 2013 Q1. There will be no LGA 1356. 1366 will be replaced by 2011
 

IntelUser2000

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i would be surprised if ivy made it more than quad on 1155, 6 and 8 core will be LGA2011. But i guess intel could surprise us all and actually not screw over 1155 like they did 1156 but i wouldnt count on it.

Well, I guess you could expect something like Conroe to Penryn transition. A Tick doesn't bring electrical changes so it could be compatible.

OP: Yea probably, 2700 in Q3 and 2800 in Q4 isn't unlikely.
 

Ajay

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Well, I guess you could expect something like Conroe to Penryn transition. A Tick doesn't bring electrical changes so it could be compatible.

OP: Yea probably, 2700 in Q3 and 2800 in Q4 isn't unlikely.

So long as mobo makers anticipate 22nm parts. Most Conroe boards where ready for 45nm and some weren't.

This road map from an AT article indicates that there could be faster cpus in Q3 (no Q4 shown yet, Intel is probably waiting on BD results):

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If you are OCing then no point waiting. This current SB architecture and the process technology will not change meaningfully. 32nm is now mature so there is not going to be much more squeezed out of it. The architectural changes in SB reves are going to be minimal.

In the previous i7 gen apart from the 875K it was only the extreme version which was unlocked. The same trend will continue here to. So the new chips will unlikely to be unlocked. Going forward this is going to be even more critical since you can not overclock locked chips in any meaningful way.

Intel differentiates the market very well. They do not want business customers and server farms running on the low cost unlocked processors so they disable the virtualization features (VT-d etc.). They give you full power for a single chip solution with extreme series but price it at the level of Xeons.

Of course the Ivy Bridge and other 6 cores etc will come in due time. But then whether they may not be unlocked, and also come in a different price point than the current gen sandy bridge.
 

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If you are OCing then no point waiting. This current SB architecture and the process technology will not change meaningfully. 32nm is now mature so there is not going to be much more squeezed out of it. The architectural changes in SB reves are going to be minimal.

In the previous i7 gen apart from the 875K it was only the extreme version which was unlocked. The same trend will continue here to. So the new chips will unlikely to be unlocked. Going forward this is going to be even more critical since you can not overclock locked chips in any meaningful way.

Intel differentiates the market very well. They do not want business customers and server farms running on the low cost unlocked processors so they disable the virtualization features (VT-d etc.). They give you full power for a single chip solution with extreme series but price it at the level of Xeons.

Of course the Ivy Bridge and other 6 cores etc will come in due time. But then whether they may not be unlocked, and also come in a different price point than the current gen sandy bridge.

I see an ivy bridge 6 core unlocked for 699.99 which IMO would be a great price for 6 cores of goodness. If BD is as good as they say it is that number could come down.
 

aviat72

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I see an ivy bridge 6 core unlocked for 699.99 which IMO would be a great price for 6 cores of goodness. If BD is as good as they say it is that number could come down.

Yup $700 versus $300. They will price them based on the target market and derive maximum value.

For your typical user who rarely if ever needs six cores, the 2600K is probably the best-buy for this year. The next iteration will likely address the business/higher end market and will be in a different price point all together. And it is not just the CPU; it also the Motherboard etc. which will cost more. 1155 P57s Mobos are going for as low as $120 (MSI) with a lot of great sub $200 options. X58 boards were priced considerably higher.
 

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In the previous i7 gen apart from the 875K it was only the extreme version which was unlocked. The same trend will continue here to. So the new chips will unlikely to be unlocked. Going forward this is going to be even more critical since you can not overclock locked chips in any meaningful way.
LGA2011 will overclock by changing the base clock, as far as I know. And even if it does not, I would expect all the chips to have unlocked multipliers, as it is specifically for enthusiasts. From the roadmap, it would seem that it is the K parts being replaced, so I would expect them to be K as well.

Intel differentiates the market very well. They do not want business customers and server farms running on the low cost unlocked processors so they disable the virtualization features (VT-d etc.). They give you full power for a single chip solution with extreme series but price it at the level of Xeons.
The unlocked processors do have VT-x. VT-d is little used, and relatively unimportant.

Of course the Ivy Bridge and other 6 cores etc will come in due time. But then whether they may not be unlocked, and also come in a different price point than the current gen sandy bridge.
Well, it would be fitting in at one slot on the roadmap, so would replace (at a similar price) the part already there. I would expect there will be K parts, as they would be the high-end parts for LGA1155.
 

Ajay

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I see an ivy bridge 6 core unlocked for 699.99 which IMO would be a great price for 6 cores of goodness. If BD is as good as they say it is that number could come down.

If BD is as good as AMD hopes it will be, then I might switch (though it wouldn't be to 2012). Too bad Intel doesn't make AMD chipsets :p It's looking like BD will be a screaming F@H cpu - time will tell.