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jandrews

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Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Shouldn't be the "same" year round as that isn't as energy efficient. That said, in the winter, inside heat in the low 60s is warm enough for everyone.
In the summer, inside AC in the low 70s should be cool enough so that nobody is sweating uncomfortably.

Anything warmer than like 71 or 72 is unreasonable for an office environment where people are expected to wear long pants rather than shorts and a shirt with a collar and a tie rather than just a t-shirt.

That said, the heat is too high in here, it's probably like 72 or 73 in here, so I have to use a fan to keep cool. I have 2 fans, just in case ...
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no, it isnt, thats the whole point, what you dictate is your opinion and it is not fact. Personally I like my apartment to be 72 in the winter and I pay the price for it. At 72 at home in the winter I am still in long sleeve shirts and pants lol. If anything I see people putting on more clothes at the office and not less.
 
BurnItDwn

BurnItDwn

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Originally posted by: jandrews
Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Shouldn't be the "same" year round as that isn't as energy efficient. That said, in the winter, inside heat in the low 60s is warm enough for everyone.
In the summer, inside AC in the low 70s should be cool enough so that nobody is sweating uncomfortably.

Anything warmer than like 71 or 72 is unreasonable for an office environment where people are expected to wear long pants rather than shorts and a shirt with a collar and a tie rather than just a t-shirt.

That said, the heat is too high in here, it's probably like 72 or 73 in here, so I have to use a fan to keep cool. I have 2 fans, just in case ...
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no, it isnt, thats the whole point, what you dictate is your opinion and it is not fact. Personally I like my apartment to be 72 in the winter and I pay the price for it. At 72 at home in the winter I am still in long sleeve shirts and pants lol. If anything I see people putting on more clothes at the office and not less.
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Yes, I am of course dictating my opinion.
Also, what I am saying is that it's more cost effective to use the least amount of heat and the least amount of AC to make the most amount of people comfortable.

If it were strictly up to me, I would keep it about 60-65 degrees at 40-60% humidity year round, but in the summer, that's gonna be one hell of an electric bill, and in the winter it's infeasible to get the humidity that high (even with whole house humidifier.)

72 degrees to me, is too hot to be comfortable with my "office" clothes on (Slacks, undershirt, collared shirt with tie) unless I've got a fan blowing on my constantly.

That said, I live just a bit NW of Chicago, and I wear shorts all year long (though not at work since I have to wear long pants with my shirt and tie.) I only would wear long pants otherwise if the snow was higher than my ankles, sorta like how it is currently (have about 6 inches at my house.)
 
Phoenix86

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
The HVAC systems I've been around in most offices are HORRIBLY implemented. There's like 1 thermostat and it's in the worst possible place. Double this with even worse heating/cooling distribution and it's a distaster.

One office is rivaling the surface temperature of the sun. Two doors down it's approaching absolute zero.

Some broom closet in the far off wing where nobody goes is a comfortable 70 degrees F.

It's impossible to make everyone happy.
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This is usually a result of moving walls w/o changing the heating/cooling to match. When they rebuild an area they rarely, if ever, touch the air handling system.
 
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mobobuff

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Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Originally posted by: jandrews
Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Shouldn't be the "same" year round as that isn't as energy efficient. That said, in the winter, inside heat in the low 60s is warm enough for everyone.
In the summer, inside AC in the low 70s should be cool enough so that nobody is sweating uncomfortably.

Anything warmer than like 71 or 72 is unreasonable for an office environment where people are expected to wear long pants rather than shorts and a shirt with a collar and a tie rather than just a t-shirt.

That said, the heat is too high in here, it's probably like 72 or 73 in here, so I have to use a fan to keep cool. I have 2 fans, just in case ...
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no, it isnt, thats the whole point, what you dictate is your opinion and it is not fact. Personally I like my apartment to be 72 in the winter and I pay the price for it. At 72 at home in the winter I am still in long sleeve shirts and pants lol. If anything I see people putting on more clothes at the office and not less.
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Yes, I am of course dictating my opinion.
Also, what I am saying is that it's more cost effective to use the least amount of heat and the least amount of AC to make the most amount of people comfortable.

If it were strictly up to me, I would keep it about 60-65 degrees at 40-60% humidity year round, but in the summer, that's gonna be one hell of an electric bill, and in the winter it's infeasible to get the humidity that high (even with whole house humidifier.)

72 degrees to me, is too hot to be comfortable with my "office" clothes on (Slacks, undershirt, collared shirt with tie) unless I've got a fan blowing on my constantly.

That said, I live just a bit NW of Chicago, and I wear shorts all year long (though not at work since I have to wear long pants with my shirt and tie.) I only would wear long pants otherwise if the snow was higher than my ankles, sorta like how it is currently (have about 6 inches at my house.)
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Your nickname doesn't match your apparent affinity for cold.

That being said, please never control my thermostats.

< 70-75
 
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jandrews

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Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Originally posted by: jandrews
Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Shouldn't be the "same" year round as that isn't as energy efficient. That said, in the winter, inside heat in the low 60s is warm enough for everyone.
In the summer, inside AC in the low 70s should be cool enough so that nobody is sweating uncomfortably.

Anything warmer than like 71 or 72 is unreasonable for an office environment where people are expected to wear long pants rather than shorts and a shirt with a collar and a tie rather than just a t-shirt.

That said, the heat is too high in here, it's probably like 72 or 73 in here, so I have to use a fan to keep cool. I have 2 fans, just in case ...
Click to expand...
no, it isnt, thats the whole point, what you dictate is your opinion and it is not fact. Personally I like my apartment to be 72 in the winter and I pay the price for it. At 72 at home in the winter I am still in long sleeve shirts and pants lol. If anything I see people putting on more clothes at the office and not less.
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Yes, I am of course dictating my opinion.
Also, what I am saying is that it's more cost effective to use the least amount of heat and the least amount of AC to make the most amount of people comfortable.

If it were strictly up to me, I would keep it about 60-65 degrees at 40-60% humidity year round, but in the summer, that's gonna be one hell of an electric bill, and in the winter it's infeasible to get the humidity that high (even with whole house humidifier.)

72 degrees to me, is too hot to be comfortable with my "office" clothes on (Slacks, undershirt, collared shirt with tie) unless I've got a fan blowing on my constantly.

That said, I live just a bit NW of Chicago, and I wear shorts all year long (though not at work since I have to wear long pants with my shirt and tie.) I only would wear long pants otherwise if the snow was higher than my ankles, sorta like how it is currently (have about 6 inches at my house.)
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Well, I disagree, if you start setting office temperatures in the low 60s you are going to find it is not cost feasible because no one will rent from you lol. Yeah you are definately not the norm, I live in st. paul mn myself. Moved to florida a few years ago but the job market is not so good.
 
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randay

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Why is the sun so freaking bright? Whats the point? I can see just fine without it being so friggin bright.
 
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jandrews

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ya i mean who is wearing sunglasses before the sun is even out, hey you driving to work, the suns not even out put away your sunglasses
 
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Special K

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I noticed this too with the buildings when I was in college. During the freezing cold winter months, the indoor temps of all buildings would feel like 85+ degrees. Sure it feels good when you first walk in, but after a few minutes I'm practically sweating because 85 is not a comfortable room temperature, IMO. I wish they would just leave it at 70-something year round. Sure it might be a little more uncomfortable when you first walk in if the temperature outside is extreme, but if you are spending more than a few minutes in the building, I think it would be more comfortable in the long run.
 
IGBT

IGBT

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..I have the same problem. They keep the place hot enough to hatch eggs. When I show up I shut off the heat and kick open the windows. They call me Mr.Freeze. It's so hot it's like a convalescent home. All is needed is the smell of incontinence to make it complete.
 
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jagec

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Apr 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: mjuszczak Seriously, yes its cold outside, but people raise the temperature SO high in the office, that I get hot when I come in, and I have to open a window and let the cool air balance out the hot - isn't that going against the point of heat?

Same goes for air conditioning. People turn it on so high! Why not keep the office at a constant temperature year round and go from there?

/rant
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I agree. People really abuse this for some reason.

The worst is in Miami, where everyone turns up the AC so high that you need your winter coat when inside. They should be smacked and forced to live without any AC for a year.
 
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potato28

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Keeping it hot in the winter for me is around... 15-17 C. I don't care for AC in the summer, costs too much in my current house with with the crappy insulation on the 2nd floor.
 
herm0016

herm0016

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we keep our house between 62 and 64 in the winter, it feels nice and warm after coming in from single digit temps. we do not have AC in the summer, though it usually only hits 90 one or 2 days each summer up here. usually cools off at night enough to cool the house down, close all the windows in the morning and it stays somewhat cool all day.
 
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lupi

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I've seen people walk around indoors with sweaters in 73F and complaining about the cold.
 
Throckmorton

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Shouldn't be the "same" year round as that isn't as energy efficient. That said, in the winter, inside heat in the low 60s is warm enough for everyone.
In the summer, inside AC in the low 70s should be cool enough so that nobody is sweating uncomfortably.

Anything warmer than like 71 or 72 is unreasonable for an office environment where people are expected to wear long pants rather than shorts and a shirt with a collar and a tie rather than just a t-shirt.

That said, the heat is too high in here, it's probably like 72 or 73 in here, so I have to use a fan to keep cool. I have 2 fans, just in case ...
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The same temp year round is more energy efficient than 80F in the winter and 65F in the summer, which is how it is in my office. NOBODY likes it that way, but that's how SOMEONE in the building sets it, probably just to piss us off and waste energy. It's not a stupid complaint, so I don't understand the low ratings for this thread, especially since every public or office building seems to have the temperatures set hot in the winter and cold in the summer!
 
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