What's the point of bluray burners?

[0roo0roo]

eventually it'll be 10 cents a disc like dvdr.

so meh.
but yes for day to day stuff its easier to use a flash drive. unlike in the past we now have far more options. back during cdr you had nothing to compete...zip drive? pos sparc drive? flaming pos. dvdr is only useful because of the cheap price now, and for dvd media video. eventually bluray should reach that price point as well.

 

[0roo0roo]

would love to hear others' experiences about longevity of their DVDRs.

i burn twice anything important.
i don'tn remember having a bad disc.
cdr was more likely to fail in my experience. data layer more vulnerable to damage just physically never mind degrading dye

 

[amdhunter]

i burn twice anything important.
i don'tn remember having a bad disc.
cdr was more likely to fail in my experience. data layer more vulnerable to damage just physically never mind degrading dye

I'm exactly the opposite. Almost every CDR I've burned from years ago read fine. It's just the DVD-Rs that suck. It might be because the majority of them are those "Princo" disks that everyone swore against.

Thank goodness nothing important is on those disks - they are mostly anime that I've watched already and really have no intention of watching again.

 

[zerocool84]

Blu-rays should fare better than DVD's and CD's as all Blu-rays are required to have a scratch-resistant hard coating on them. DVD's and CD's were not required to have them so it depended on the quality you bought but with Blu-ray they are all required.

 

[DrPizza]

<$3 for a 25GB BD-R
$30-$35 for a 16GB SDHC card or USB pen drive.

Why pay 10x more? 3 drives and you've already recovered the additional cost of a BD-R drive (as opposed to a BD-ROM). Don't get me wrong, I'd happily use SDHC cards exclusively and forget about optical disks forever but price matters.

If price matters, then external 2 terabyte hard drives seem to make more sense. That's the equivalent of 80 of those 25GB BD-Rs. And, that also assumes that you completely fill up all 25GB - that you don't stop with 3 or 4GB free (or 5 or 10) which is more likely the case.

Averaging 20GB per BD-R, that's 100 of them to equal that 2TB hard drive. Granted, the price per BD-R will come down, but so will the price of those hard drives. Hard drives don't scratch as easily. And this cost comparison doesn't even take into account the initial cost of the Blu-Ray burner. Plus, hard drives are likely to continue increasing in capacity. I really can't see as much of a push to increase the capacity of optical drives in the near future - what for?

Furthermore, except for pirating activities, (or, "I'm making legal back-ups of all the blu-ray movies I purchased") I cannot fathom a reason where you'd be burning that many disks. Wait, I take that back - making copies of home movies for relatives in 1080p quality, but that's a stretch.

 

[Colt45]

agree, more or less. When CD's and DVD's started being economical, you couldn't get a 1TB HDD for less than a hundred bucks. Not even close. And flash barely existed (I'd burn a disk and use it once, to transfer stuff..)

 

[nerp]

Considering the failure rates of all optical media to this point, I'd never, ever, ever use bluray discs for backup purposes. It's bad enough when you lose 4GB because a DVD-R is suddenly unreadable. Imagine losing a whole bluray disc worth of shit. No thanks.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

CD burners out, max 700 MB. Competition = 150MB Zip

DVD burners out, max ~8.5GB. Competition = 700MB CD-RWs

Bluray Burners out, max 50GB. Compeition = 1TB Ext HDDs and 16GB+ flash drives


Logic eludes us sometimes.

Zip drives were 100MB and 250MB

Also, you forget archival

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Considering the failure rates of all media to this point, I'd never, ever, ever use CD for backup purposes. It's bad enough when you lose 1.44MB because a Floppy is suddenly unreadable. Imagine losing a whole CD worth of shit. No thanks.

^ funny how this can be changed as time goes on, make multiple copies of important stuff. Everyone knows this

 

[Red Squirrel]

At this point it's probably not worth getting one but in a couple years it might be.

I don't burn movies anymore though, I just play them directly on the PC. Once I get a TV I'll built a HTPC and do the same.

The disks are retarded expensive too. And what's up with dual layer DVDs, even those are still retarded expensive despite blue ray being out now. 10 bucks for one dvd, really? That's just nuts. Only checked locally though.

For backup I prefer hard drives anyway. Way longer shelf life, and you can overwrite over and over and over infinately.

 

[Rubycon]

To rip the lasers out of them! 12X diodes will push 1/2 watt through a decent glass collimator! That's a lot of power in a tiny package and is much simpler than DPSS. I have a 200mW portable that I use to flash cure UV adhesive, for example.

 

[Mucho]

hell i'm still waiting for dual layer discs to be cheap

:thumbsup:

 

[pontifex]

At this point it's probably not worth getting one but in a couple years it might be.

I don't burn movies anymore though, I just play them directly on the PC. Once I get a TV I'll built a HTPC and do the same.

The disks are retarded expensive too. And what's up with dual layer DVDs, even those are still retarded expensive despite blue ray being out now. 10 bucks for one dvd, really? That's just nuts. Only checked locally though.

For backup I prefer hard drives anyway. Way longer shelf life, and you can overwrite over and over and over infinately.

yeah, you're definitely looking in the wrong place for dual layer DVDs.

 

[olds]

They make great drink coasters.

 

[dainthomas]

Maybe he means that ripping/burning bd's is such a pain. Why can't there be something like dvdshrink for blurays? Easy, one step rip and decode. With blurays there are too many steps (and it doesn't seem to work consistently). Or maybe I'm just not 1337 enough.

Either way, you can get most blurays for cheap enough that the investment in a burner/blank disks/time is too high to be worthwhile. Maybe if the prices on burners/disks come down to DVD levels.