What's the nVidia "equivalent" of the ATI 4000 series?

[her209]

Specifically for 4650/4670?

 

[crackshot91]

9600gt?

 

[pukemon]

Probably the GT210/220/240 now?

 

[postmortemIA]

tomorrow it will be GT310/320/340, next month, who knows

 

[Lonyo]

tomorrow it will be GT310/320/340, next month, who knows

GT310 came out 3 days ago

 

[HalfCrazy]

I would say HD 4670 equivalent would be a 9600GT.

I'm running a Radeon HD 4670 1GB in my main system. Been using the video card for one week now. I'm able to play all my games at max graphic settings so far. I'm not sure about Crysis since I don't own it.

 

[toyota]

I would say HD 4670 equivalent would be a 9600GT.

I'm running a Radeon HD 4670 1GB in my main system. Been using the video card for one week now. I'm able to play all my games at max graphic settings so far. I'm not sure about Crysis since I don't own it.

fairly close but the 9600gt is easily quite a bit faster in most games.

 

[nemesismk2]

GeForce 9500 GT

 

[TheMeanestGuest]

The closest comparison to an HD 4670 is an 8800 GS.. or an 8800 GS spec'd 9600 GSO. They are pretty much dead even, trading off depending on game I suppose. I've heard stuff about there being a lot of weirdo oddball 9600 GSOs out there, so watch out if you buy one.

Of course, by that same token there's probably a lot of crappy 4670s out there too now.

Edit: The closest comparison to a 4650 is probably a 9500 GT, but I don't really know.

 

[toyota]

GeForce 9500 GT

a 9500gt would be slower than a 4670 or 4650.

 

[evolucion8]

The HD 4670 is much faster than the GT240 which is barely faster than the HD 4650 in some scenarios, the 9600GT is slighly faster overall than the HD 4670 which traded blows with the HD 3870 with more loses than winnings on the latter. But also bear in mind that the HD 4670 doesn't need an external power connector plus DX10.1 unlike the 9600GT which needs external power connector.

 

[Arkaign]

The HD 4670 is much faster than the GT240 which is barely faster than the HD 4650 in some scenarios, the 9600GT is slighly faster overall than the HD 4670 which traded blows with the HD 3870 with more loses than winnings on the latter. But also bear in mind that the HD 4670 doesn't need an external power connector plus DX10.1 unlike the 9600GT which needs external power connector.

I agree with this, with the exception that in some games the 9600GT is dramatically faster, with a couple of games (Devil May Cry 4 and GRID, notably) being faster for the 4670.

The 4670 is approximately equal to the 9600GSO, although it seems to be just a tiny shade slower most of the time :

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/hd4670/

When you throw the 9600GT into the mix :

http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-radeon-hd-4670-review/8

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/792/5/

 

[evolucion8]

Those reviews are quite old, with recent driver optimizations, the gap has closed considerably.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3657&p=6

 

[Zap]

the 9600GT which needs external power connector.

The new "low power" 9600 GT and 9800 GT models do not need external power.

 

[Arkaign]

Those reviews are quite old, with recent driver optimizations, the gap has closed considerably.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3657&p=6

Huh? I see about the same results overall, and that AT article leaves out the 9600GT entirely. For the most part, the 9600GSO trades blows pretty evenly with the 4670, and I don't think anyone is going to argue that the 9600GT is irrefutably faster then the GSO, or that nobody should seriously be trying to game on a 9500GT or worse (GT220, hah).

 

[evolucion8]

9800GT is the best bet definitively.

 

[Qbah]

The nVidia equivalent in terms of performance for the HD4670 is the *old* 9600GSO with 96SPs. The "new" GSO has 48SPs and is known as the GT220 now. And it's a lot slower than a HD4670.

The HD4650 is a bad card in general so not much sense talking about performance here. You might as well get a HD4350 - both cards won't play games anyway. Probably the GT220 performs on a similar level.

The plus side for the Radeons is that they don't require an external power connector, while the 96SP GSO does. As mentioned, there are "green" versions of 9600GT and 9800GT that won't require one either (the 9800GT being quite a bit ahead in performance) but obviously they will cost quite a bit more.

 

[AzN]

You guys are forgetting the 9600gso

 

[Arkaign]

You guys are forgetting the 9600gso

Heh, Qbah just covered it quite well in the post above. I think it's hard to find a 96sp GSO these days though.

 

[Keysplayr]

The HD 4670 is much faster than the GT240 which is barely faster than the HD 4650 in some scenarios, the 9600GT is slighly faster overall than the HD 4670 which traded blows with the HD 3870 with more loses than winnings on the latter. But also bear in mind that the HD 4670 doesn't need an external power connector plus DX10.1 unlike the 9600GT which needs external power connector.

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=822
http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gt-240-review-test/7
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeForce_GT_240/6.html

You might be thinking of the GT220 Evo.

Here are a few more:

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,...tX-101-graphics-card-reviewed/Reviews/?page=3

Anandtech did one on the GT220:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3657&p=6

Also, the GT2xx series are also DX10.1 and do not need an additional power connector. They are 40nm parts as well.

 

[Qbah]

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=822
http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gt-240-review-test/7
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeForce_GT_240/6.html

You might be thinking of the GT220 Evo.

Here are a few more:

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,...tX-101-graphics-card-reviewed/Reviews/?page=3

Anandtech did one on the GT220:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3657&p=6

Okay... that guru3D link is LOL... Far Cry 2 at 1920x1200 with AAx8 on those cards is just silly... Same for BattleForge at those speeds Sometimes I'm wondering why do they even bother with such settings. Though the techPowerUp article is pretty nice in general - shows how it looks like pretty accurately. It uses the GDDR5 model though - it is even faster than an "old" 9600GSO (more bandwidth). Hence it easily beats the HD4670. Same for the PC Perspective article. Remember the HD4670 has DDR3 and 128bit interface - any GDDR5 card with similar shader power will easily beat it (or the 9600GT - 256bit+DDR3).

So just to recap from fastest:

9600GT
GT240 DDR5 (128bit)
HD4670~9600GSO 96SP (192bit+DDR3)
GT240 DDR3 (128bit)
.....
HD4650, GT220, 9600GSO 48SP and all the lower numbered crap (9500GT, 9400GT, G210, HD4550, HD4350)

 

[her209]

Are the number of CUDA cores directly comparable across all nVidia cards?
http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_family.html

 

[her209]

Ok, I bought a used 9600 GT for $55 shipped? Too much?

 

[HalfCrazy]

Sounds like a good price to me. As long you are happy with your new graphics card. Guess that's all that matters.

 

[Qbah]

55$ for a 9600GT is a great deal!