What's the most powerful FWD car?

[overst33r]

Originally posted by: Koenigsegg

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: andylawcc
are old Seville FWD too? they too have V8 right?

otherwise, the fastest production FWD I know of are Alfa Romeo's 147 GTA 3.2 V6 with 250hp, and the new Maxima, which have more power than that.

SRT4

Cobalt SS and the SRT4 are pretty damn fast.

SRT can run high 13's if you are good (stock) and the SS can run low-mid 14's stock.. quick cars!!!

not according to motortrend...

😕

Windows Vista is a fast fwd car?

:laugh:

it happens to the best of us...

 

[Ornery]

2005 Cadillac STS

• STS's 4.6L Northstar V8 VVT engine and 320 hp combined with a 4-speed automatic shift give it more power and responsiveness and Magnetic Ride Control provides for smoother, more pleasurable driving.

About time these screwballs went back to RWD, ain't it?

 

[Viperoni]

Originally posted by: Ornery
2005 Cadillac STS

• STS's 4.6L Northstar V8 VVT engine and 320 hp combined with a 4-speed automatic shift give it more power and responsiveness and Magnetic Ride Control provides for smoother, more pleasurable driving.

About time these screwballs went back to RWD, ain't it?

About time? Yes. Will GM do it? Of course not.

 

[Koenigsegg]

Originally posted by: Ornery
2005 Cadillac STS

• STS's 4.6L Northstar V8 VVT engine and 320 hp combined with a 4-speed automatic shift give it more power and responsiveness and Magnetic Ride Control provides for smoother, more pleasurable driving.

About time these screwballs went back to RWD, ain't it?

I don't think most 85 y/o former STS owners really cared much about which wheels drove the car..

 

[Koenigsegg]

Originally posted by: Viperoni

Originally posted by: Ornery
2005 Cadillac STS

• STS's 4.6L Northstar V8 VVT engine and 320 hp combined with a 4-speed automatic shift give it more power and responsiveness and Magnetic Ride Control provides for smoother, more pleasurable driving.

About time these screwballs went back to RWD, ain't it?

About time? Yes. Will GM do it? Of course not.

What are you talking about? The new STS comes in RWD and AWD configuration.

 

[Ornery]

Hey, you're right! *golf clap*

 

[sniperruff]

as for modern cars i remeber autodelta's alfa 147GTA. 328bhp.

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[alkemyst]

Toronado is a cool looking car....

Not a rocket though. Nice cruiser and not often seen.

The Saab Vigen had like 250HP or something....and torque steer.

 

[RU482]

NM

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: CraigRT

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: andylawcc
are old Seville FWD too? they too have V8 right?

otherwise, the fastest production FWD I know of are Alfa Romeo's 147 GTA 3.2 V6 with 250hp, and the new Maxima, which have more power than that.

SRT4

Cobalt SS and the SRT4 are pretty damn fast.

SRT can run high 13's if you are good (stock) and the SS can run low-mid 14's stock.. quick cars!!!

not according to motortrend...

depends which numbers you use

OTOH, this is why magazine racing sucks. Personally, I don't think I've ever seen a SRT4 run break 13s at the local track, but at the same time this track is usually hot and sits 1K+ feet above sea level.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Toronado is a cool looking car....

Not a rocket though. Nice cruiser and not often seen.

The Saab Vigen had like 250HP or something....and torque steer.

my aunt has a 9-5 wagon with the 250 HP turbo 4, but the torque steer isn't all that bad, considering the power.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: andylawcc
ah... so where is the tranmission located in the Toronado? behind the engine or under the engine?

The engine is offset to one side and the transmission runs down the middle, right next to the crank case.

ZV

EDIT: There's a picture on this page, not the greatest but should give the idea.

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
btw, there is NO torque steer in that vehicle.

how so? with an LSD?

equal length axle shafts.

do equal length axle shafts cost a lot more to make?

i could not tell you. but you have to realise that this vehicle was chain driven. yes, there was a chain from the engine to the transmission.

To be fair, it's a big-ass chain...

And the issue with equal-length halfshafts is the longitudinal layout of most FWD engines. The Toronado had its engine oriented laterally in the car, crankshaft running front to rear, and the power essentially made a U-turn at the transmission and came back forward again to a differential in the middle of the front.

With a longitudinal arrangement, the transmission is on one end of the engine which makes the differential _much_ closer to one wheel than the other. It's nearly impossible (not completely, just nearly) to set up a longitudinally mounted FWD setup with the differential in the center.

ZV

*cough* tranverse...
longitudinal is what the toro had.

 

[Horus]

Original Impala SS was RWD.

New impala SS will be FWD. Bore out the engine and slap on a supercharger and you've got a retarded-fast FWD car.

 

[Otaking]

Originally posted by: Adul
any civic with a Type R sticker on it 😛

bzzzzzt fppp bzzzzzz zzz put put.. puttt.. poof.

:Q

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
btw, there is NO torque steer in that vehicle.

how so? with an LSD?

equal length axle shafts.

do equal length axle shafts cost a lot more to make?

i could not tell you. but you have to realise that this vehicle was chain driven. yes, there was a chain from the engine to the transmission.

To be fair, it's a big-ass chain...

And the issue with equal-length halfshafts is the longitudinal layout of most FWD engines. The Toronado had its engine oriented laterally in the car, crankshaft running front to rear, and the power essentially made a U-turn at the transmission and came back forward again to a differential in the middle of the front.

With a longitudinal arrangement, the transmission is on one end of the engine which makes the differential _much_ closer to one wheel than the other. It's nearly impossible (not completely, just nearly) to set up a longitudinally mounted FWD setup with the differential in the center.

ZV

*cough* tranverse...
longitudinal is what the toro had.

I _always_ reverse those two... Never fails. I should really just start putting the opposite of what I'm thinking down.

ZV

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
ZV
I _always_ reverse those two... Never fails. I should really just start putting the opposite of what I'm thinking down.

ZV

I've got some pretty bad problems reversing things too. thats the way she goes.. cant think of a good example right now.

 

[thedarkwolf]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
btw, there is NO torque steer in that vehicle.

how so? with an LSD?

equal length axle shafts.

do equal length axle shafts cost a lot more to make?

i could not tell you. but you have to realise that this vehicle was chain driven. yes, there was a chain from the engine to the transmission.

I wouldn't think that would be a huge deal. As far as I know all FWD trannys have a chain in them somewhere usually from the main trans body to the tail housing/differential.