What's the most egregious thing to happen in the last few weeks?

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Opinions change.


I've said things 6 years ago that I don't believe anymore. Why is Obama any different?

Thank you!

I would much rather have a leader that's willing to change and adapt their thinking. Times change, that's why it's called progress.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Mostly everything is totes amaz-balls. But, still not amaze-balls X infinity, + another infinity.

[*]California ends non-medical vaccination exemptions.

Dandy. Thank you.

[*]Pope say protecting the climate from change is a moral imperative.

OK - but, it should not even be a moral imperative. You should not have to tug on a person's moral compass to make them realize we need to take care of our environment. All these carbon credits and BS makes things even worse frankly. I hate to say it, but the earth has to vomit on humanity to make us realize we need to stop dumping our crap thoughtlessly.

[*]Confederate Flag is removed from state grounds and some retailers.

State grounds - yes please. Retailers - no need to. In fact, by retailers removing the flag, they are enforcing the fidelity of people dedications to displaying a symbol that stands for racism, treason and slavery.

[*]SCOTUS limits some mandatory sentencing.

Cool.

[*]SCOTUS upholds anti-discrimination housing law.

Good. You can't preach and demand the privacy of your own dwelling, while expecting to view and cast judgement on others. I mean, you can, but, you can't have double standards. I mean, you can, but not everyone is a defective minded conservative who is alarmed and scared shitless of everything and anything.

[*]SCOTUS upholds the ACA.

Dandy. Thank you.

[*]SCOTUS legalizes same-sex marriage.

Dandy. Thank you.

You know, for a year that is suppose to belong to conservatives, they have REALLY had their asses handed to them a little over a 1/2 year of when they took 'control' of this country's reigns.

I hope it keeps up, so we:
1) can move even close to a more humane country
2) enjoy the butthurt rage from the constant wailing alarms we call the Right

 

[IronWing]

Democrats attacking the south in a feel good campaign based on bigoted hated of an entire people for the actions of a lone gunman. That they essentially mirror the notion of condemning Islam for the actions of terrorists.

More importantly is they gloss over that the flag is flown on a Civil War memorial. It was already removed from above the Capital where it once flew. Instead of "off state grounds" they simply want it banned altogether, as demonstrated by store boycotts and calls to tear down statues of historical figures.

Dems condemn the notion that those things are American. They condemn reconciliation and reconstruction. It is a divisive ideology hell bent of tearing America apart. It is appalling.

You conflate traitorous scum (Confederates) with modern Southerners and then insist that opponents of states' honoring of Confederates are therefore anti-Southerner when it is only in your mind that these two groups are equivalent.

On the flag issue, it was the defenders of Jim Crow that put that flag on the capitol, not the Confederates. The flag was taken up as a symbol by those supporting bigotry and state sanctioned oppression. It makes sense that modern Southerners who have rejected bigotry and state sanctioned oppression would call for the flag's removal from the capitol grounds.

 

[Ophir]

I agree opinions change, and I also think when that happens it should be celebrated when done in favor of personal liberty.

But it seems like the entire south is still condemned by most to this day for sins committed hundreds of years ago.

Jim Crow-type laws weren't completely eradicated until 1965, and Southerners fought tooth and nail to prevent that from happening. 50 years ago.

The south is condemned to this day for the totality of their transgressions, which continue to this day:

- For looking with any reverence to the Confederate battle flag or to the Confederacy as a whole
- For still referring (even in jest) to the Civil War as the "War of Northern Aggression"
- For disingenuously continuing to downplay the true cause of the Civil War as a battle for states rights ... yes, states rights to legislate people as property. Any other issue would have been resolved politically, as it has been over the 150 years since. Slavery was a non-negotiable issue for both sides by 1860.
- Et cetera

This will go on until southerners accept that the pre-Civil Right act (and in particular the antebellum) era is a terrible black mark on their history and not something to be proud of, or to be justified away with strawmen, red herrings, doubletalk, or outright lies. There is no justification.

Face the facts, learn from your history, make amends, and move on.

 

[IronWing]

Anyway, back on topic: the most egregious thing to happen in the past few weeks was Costco dropping Magnum bars. It's like ISIS won.

 

[UberNeuman]

Poll is incomplete without Batman: Arkham Knight PC.

 

[Muse]

MORAN

Can't even read can you.

You are in need of a total mind revolution. You be one fucked up dude.

 

[MrPickins]

Also identifies the biggest political idiots like my Texas state governor.

He already locked that down as state AG, it's just that he was in Rick Perry's shadow, so it wasn't as obvious. :\

 

[Thump553]

Not even close-the worst thing in the last couple of weeks was a 130 lb racist weakling racist dipstick gunning down people in church. Worst because this was allegedly one of our own and happened on our shores.

The usual horrendous ISIS brutalities come in second.

 

[Paratus]

Not even close-the worst thing in the last couple of weeks was a 130 lb racist weakling racist dipstick gunning down people in church. Worst because this was allegedly one of our own and happened on our shores.

The usual horrendous ISIS brutalities come in second.

Can't disagree with you. But I think everyone on P&N would also have agreed that was the worst so it wasn't a great poll question.

Well at least I hope everyone would have agreed. Maybe I'm giving P&N too much credit. :hmm:

 

[werepossum]

Democrats attacking the south in a feel good campaign based on bigoted hated of an entire people for the actions of a lone gunman. That they essentially mirror the notion of condemning Islam for the actions of terrorists.

More importantly is they gloss over that the flag is flown on a Civil War memorial. It was already removed from above the Capital where it once flew. Instead of "off state grounds" they simply want it banned altogether, as demonstrated by store boycotts and calls to tear down statues of historical figures.

Dems condemn the notion that those things are American. They condemn reconciliation and reconstruction. It is a divisive ideology hell bent of tearing America apart. It is appalling.

While I agree with some of that, to my mind the proper flag to fly over a memorial is the state flag, not the flag under which our ancestors killed each other for the right to keep some people as property. That flag is pretty but represents evil, and just as with other pretty but evil things (e.g. Jane Fonda) belongs in a climate-controlled glass case, not in a position of honor.

Not even close-the worst thing in the last couple of weeks was a 130 lb racist weakling racist dipstick gunning down people in church. Worst because this was allegedly one of our own and happened on our shores.

The usual horrendous ISIS brutalities come in second.

Well said.

As for the OP's poll, he should learn to recognize that there is a vast ground between egregious and brilliant. 'Tis not a binary world.

 

[davmat787]

Anyway, back on topic: the most egregious thing to happen in the past few weeks was Costco dropping Magnum bars. It's like ISIS won.

Never fear, the YPJ will be supplying Ben & Jerry's Cherry Garcia bars in their never-ending campaign of trolling ISIS.

 

[Paratus]

While I agree with some of that, to my mind the proper flag to fly over a memorial is the state flag, not the flag under which our ancestors killed each other for the right to keep some people as property. That flag is pretty but represents evil, and just as with other pretty but evil things (e.g. Jane Fonda) belongs in a climate-controlled glass case, not in a position of honor.

Ok I lol'd

Well said.

As for the OP's poll, he should learn to recognize that there is a vast ground between egregious and brilliant. 'Tis not a binary world.

Just a word to the wise, if you are looking for subtle distinctions in P&N you are going to be sorely disappointed.

 

[realibrad]

You know, for a year that is suppose to belong to conservatives, they have REALLY had their asses handed to them a little over a 1/2 year of when they took 'control' of this country's reigns.

I hope it keeps up, so we:
1) can move even close to a more humane country
2) enjoy the butthurt rage from the constant wailing alarms we call the Right

I am happy for these changes, but I would like to point something out to you.

If the conservatives control things, and these things are happening, why not give them credit? If the the conservatives are leading things and these things are happening, and the liberals were not able to do these things, then maybe give a little credit?

Either the conservatives are not in control, and these things got passed that they did not want, or they are in control and allowed these things to go through.

 

[xBiffx]

"Our culture has accepted two huge lies. The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate."

That's all you have to know about how to look at these things.