What's the latest word on the 7000 series from AMD?

[nemesismk2]

I had a Sapphire Radeon 7000 with a massive 64mb DDR Memory

 

[nanaki333]

I had a Sapphire Radeon 7000 with a massive 64mb DDR Memory

*rimshot*

 

[Soleron]

Really?

The 2900XT was slower than the 3870, and the the 3850 was probably faster than the 2900Pro.

Yeah, I thought 2900XT > 3870 in most things but I remembered wrong.

 

[RussianSensation]

I just placed an order for a 6970, so I expect 7 series to be released pretty much as soon as it's too late for me to cancel my order. Give it 12 hours.

Most current rumors point to HD7000 series being released in Q3/Q4 of this year. I somehow doubt we will see any high-end 7000 series cards until the fall since in the last couple of months we haven't seen more details leak out. Generally, you we would have at least some contradictory specifications when the cards are very close to launch. Supposedly AMD will release some information in June.

 

[Dark Shroud]

We probably won't see the 7900 series until November.

 

[formulav8]

Argg someone already said it.

 

[alcoholbob]

I would venture to guess that if the 7000 series (or 600 series for that matter) has to come out on 40nm again it won't be any more of an improvement. Since it apparently won't be on the same process, I think it's a pretty safe bet it will be a more substantial improvement.

Didn't GT200 move down one process and the performance gain was fairly minimal?

 

[darkswordsman17]

Didn't GT200 move down one process and the performance gain was fairly minimal?

Maybe you're thinking of the 8 series to 9 series transition? The 200 series was on the same process as the 9 but it was a pretty big improvement.

 

[alcoholbob]

No, the GTX280/260 was on 65nm, the GTX285/275 was on 55nm. Die size went down from 580mm to 470mm. The performance gain was minimal.

 

[bryanW1995]

The 3000 series chips had worse performance that 2000. You had to Crossfire them to get them to be faster.

Not true, 3870 was ~ 6-7% faster than 2900xt, plus they had a single card (3870x2, though it was still xfire) that was the fastest card available for 4 or 5 months. 2900 series was too large/hot for sandwich duty. And there was an enormous change in ideology after amd took over, forcing the development team to re-work how they designed/built their gpus. In the 6000->7000 series change they have the same group, same thought process, smaller manufacturing process, and several year's worth of positive sales momentum upon which to build. In fact, in the AT launch article and several others it was mentioned that 6970 had to be cut down b/c it was on 40 nm, thus making it reasonable for us to assume that 7970 will, at worst, be significantly more of everything. The only potential pitfall would be if 28nm is delayed for an inordinate amount of time for both NV and AMD, in which case it is entirely possible that we see iterative improvements along the lines of 4870->4890 or gtx 260->gtx 275 for the "next gen".

Really?

The 2900XT was slower than the 3870, and the the 3850 was probably faster than the 2900Pro.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2376/7

3600 series was pretty much idendtical to the 2600 series performance wise (both were pretty poor.)

Yes, I bought a 3870 a few weeks after launch. 2 main reasons I bought that (at least over competing amd product) was that it was slightly faster than 2900xt and it was much better in the noise/heat/power dept.

Don't forget that occasionally the X1950XTX outperformed the 3870. What a beast.

Different architecture. That's like saying that "6950 occaisionally outperfroms gtx 580. What a beast".

 

[bryanW1995]

This is the 3rd forum/thread ive involved myself in and theres always some sort of grammer nazi in each of them.

I thought i was giving input to what the op asked,not writing a award winning king novel,but apparently i was wrong.

No, you were exactly right. You were giving input to what the OP asked, and you were not writing an award winning king novel.

Didn't GT200 move down one process and the performance gain was fairly minimal?

If you mean the switch from 65nm to 55nm, that was only a 1/2 step in the same process node. They were just starting to catch up with AMD in process technology, a gap which they didn't really completely close until gtx 580 btw.

 

[skipsneeky2]

Swearing is not permitted in the tech forums, might want to refresh on the rules.

Sadly double- (and triple- and quintuple-) posting is not against the rules...

As for the 7000 series, there is no reason to think there won't be significant performance gains. Using the current generation's moderate bump is a bad idea because of the whole "stuck on 40nm" business.

Maybe when im a 4 year man like yourself,i can make some smartass comments.

On a serious note i apologize for the f bomb ok?

 

[crisium]

Different architecture. That's like saying that "6950 occaisionally outperfroms gtx 580. What a beast".

Not quite the same. The X1950XTX is a testament to how far you can push old architecture, as it beat any single GPU GeForce 7900 offering. Saying that it sometimes beats the 3870 (although this is fairly rare) is the equivalent of saying that ATi's top card from Sept. 2006 occasionally outperforms ATi's top card from November 2007. It's just a cool little thing.

 

[bryanW1995]

True, x1950xtx was a very fast card. It did extremely well against 2900xt, part of the reason for the long delay of that card.

 

[Seero]

Techspot on leaked info about new AMD GPUs

 

[edplayer]

thanks for the link


Note that it is for mobile products. According to that link the first 22nm mobile gpu parts will be out in Q4 2011.

 

[skipsneeky2]

I just placed an order for a 6970, so I expect 7 series to be released pretty much as soon as it's too late for me to cancel my order. Give it 12 hours.

Funny you mention that after i picked up my gtx580 1.5gb,the 3gb version comes out.