What's the fastest CPU I can upgrade to?

[jrichrds]

I have an Asus P3B-F Slot1 BX motherboard.

What's the fastest Celeron chip that I can upgrade to with the BX chipset?

I have this Tekram slotket that is flipchip compatible, but I'm guessing that's even old technology by now.

 

[JamesDax42]

Check here

This is what I have in my slot 1 BX board and I think it's a great upgrade.

 

[Vadatajs]

<< Check here

This is what I have in my slot 1 BX board and I think it's a great upgrade. >>



I just got the pl-ip3/t with the 1.2 gig celeron for my sh6. It works great, except the board cannot detect the cpu frequency (or cpu temp), so I have to hit F1 every time I reboot, however everything works as it is sopposed to in windows.

 

[oldfart]

Read the FAQ

 

[JamesDax42]

Not sure why you need to read the FAQs but the bottom line is that the 1.2Ghz Celeron(Tualatin) with the powerleap PL-iP3/T Slotket converter is the fastest processor currently availible for you MB. It may not be cheap(although I personally don't find $149.95 expensive) but it is your only option besides getting a new MB/CPU combo. That would be cheaper of course but then you'd have to backup your data, reformat your harddrive, take apart you pc to swap MBs, put your pc back together, reinstall your OS, and the restore all of your software and data. Choice is yours.

 

[oldfart]

The Powerleap is not the only choice. You can use a Coppermine Celeron 1.1 GHz with just a normal Slocket. It goes for $72 retail @ Newegg.

 

[JamesDax42]

<< What's the fastest Celeron chip that I can upgrade to with the BX chipset? >>



He asked what was the fastest Celeron he could upgrade to. Now, Coppermine 1.1Ghz Celeron or Tualatin 1.2Ghz Celeron, which is faster?

 

[oldfart]

Yes, Tually is faster, but not the only option as you stated.


<< but it is your only option besides getting a new MB/CPU combo >>


This simply is not true.
There is more than one option. That is why I told him to read the FAQ since this question is asked all the time.


<< I have this Tekram slotket that is flipchip compatible >>


I assume he wants to use it if possible. I'm not a big Powerleap fan. Its OK, but not worth the $$ they get for it IMHO. If you want a Tually setup, you can get a 1.0A retail for $70, Abit ST6 for $85. total = $155. This will easily overclock to a 133 -140 MHz FSB .1.33+ Ghz. It will be a faster setup for the same $$. Less if you sell the old mobo.

 

[FPSguy]

I vote with oldfart. Get a Coppermine Celeron 1.1 or else do what I did and get an ECS K7S5A motherboard and an Athlon XP 1600+ or a Duron. Those solutions give you much more bang for your buck than the PowerLeap.

JamesDax42 may have the technically correct answer to your question. I don't think it's the best solution, though. For what it's worth when I replaced my BX board with an ECS K7S5A and a Duron I did not make any changes to the hard drive. I just turned on the computer with the old hard drive connected to the new motherboard and after Windows asked for a bunch of new drivers everything was good to go in no time. They say not to do that, but I have done it twice before with no problems (and this makes three times with no problems).

 

[oldfart]

Well, to be technically correct, the Powerleap 1.2 is not the fastest. You could also go with the Powerleap adapter and get your own Celeron 1.3. My point is that there is more than one option. Since he has the Slocket already, a C1.1 is not a bad way to go for ~ $70.

 

[jrichrds]

Cool, thanks for the responses guys.
I didn't phrase my question too clearly, but Coppermine Celeron 1.1Ghz was the answer I was looking for.

So there's the FC-PGA celeron, then FC-PGA2 celeron, and now Tualatin-core celeron. Each step up requires a new slotket design. Except for the (overpriced) Powerleaps, the only slotkets available are for the FC-PGA. Celeron 1.1Ghz comes in both FC-PGA and FC-PGA2 flavors. I have to make sure to get the FC-PGA one for it to work with the Tekram "flipchip compatible" slotket I got right when the flipchips came out.

Am I wrong on anything?
And can I still use the GlobalWin 25603-16 heatsink/fan that I currently have on my Celeron 366->578, or do I need a bigger HS/fan?

The Duron/ECS combo seems to be the best value at the moment. Fry's has Duron/ECS combos in the $89-109 range almost every week. (Do any reputable online vendors have a similar package?)
It's mainly the ease of upgrading with another Celeron, and the ability to continue to use all 4 of my 128MB SDRAM modules that is keeping me from going in the Duron direction.

 

[JmsAndrsn]

<< Cool, thanks for the responses guys.
I didn't phrase my question too clearly, but Coppermine Celeron 1.1Ghz was the answer I was looking for.

So there's the FC-PGA celeron, then FC-PGA2 celeron, and now Tualatin-core celeron. Each step up requires a new slotket design. Except for the (overpriced) Powerleaps, the only slotkets available are for the FC-PGA. Celeron 1.1Ghz comes in both FC-PGA and FC-PGA2 flavors. I have to make sure to get the FC-PGA one for it to work with the Tekram "flipchip compatible" slotket I got right when the flipchips came out.

Am I wrong on anything? >>



I don't believe you're necessarily wrong on what you said above but maybe this will simplify things for you. The Celerons based upon the coppermine core are available in both the FCPGA format and I believe Intel recently launced some in the FCPGA2 format(although I have not seen one yet). In this case the FCPGA2 format simply indicates that the CPU has an integrated heat spreader (IHS) attached on top of the core. This IHS helps you to mount the heatsink more level and also provides protection to the core. As long as it is a coppermine Celeron(in FCPGA or FCPGA2) it should work with your slotket and current mobo. However, not all heatsinks that work with FCPGA chips will work with FCPGA2 because of the extra heighth added by the IHS. The Tualatin Celerons are also in the FCPGA2 format so it is easy to get confused. The Tualatin Celerons will not work with you current slocket and mobo without doing some modifications because Intel changed someof the voltage requirements for the Tualatin CPU's.

 

[oldfart]

JmsAndrsn is correct. FC-PGA or FC-PGA2 Coppermine will both work just fine. I like the FC-PGA2 versions.

 

[jrichrds]

Thanks! That clears everything up.

oldfart - I read in another one of your posts that the OEM C1.1 and Retail C1.1 were only $1 in difference at NewEgg...thanks for the tip. Sounds like a retail C1.1 FCPGA2-version with included HS/Fan is the way to go.

But just out of curiousity, will my GlobalWin 25603-16 (popular during the 366 ->550 celeron days and earlier) be able to cool a C1.1? (i.e. have these chips gotten lower voltage and easier to cool, or have they gotten hotter and hotter?)

 

[oldfart]

I would say a C366 @ 550 and C1.1 would need similar amounts of cooling. Not all HS will fit properly on a FCPGA-2 though.