What's the difference between rap and hip-hop?

[Riprorin]

Is there some subtle difference or are they one in the same?

 

[Chaotic42]

I think that rap is hardcore, story telling, life on the streets stuff.

Hip-hop is like the "pre-fab music in a can by rich boys" stuff.

That's the way I've always seperated them.

 

[Legendary]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
I think that rap is hardcore, story telling, life on the streets stuff.

Hip-hop is like the "pre-fab music in a can by rich boys" stuff.

That's the way I've always seperated them.

Yeah there's a non-bias answer

Personally I can't answer this question. No idea what the answer is.

 

[Platypus]

Rap is just that, Rap over a beat.

Hip-Hop is like a form of music usually with a DJ mixing different records together to create an entirely new beat out of old music, and then someone rapping on top of it.

Maybe this is just my prespective..?

 

[gigapet]

i think rap is the actual rhyming over beats where hip hop encompasses rap and the entire culture surounding it

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Legendary

Yeah there's a non-bias answer

Personally I can't answer this question. No idea what the answer is.

Well, here's why I say that.

I think of rap as like Snoop, Ice T, Tupac.

I think of hip hop as Puff Daddy, Cris Cross, stuff like that.

I don't see how it's biased, and like I said, it's my opinion.

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Rap is just that, Rap over a beat.

Hip-Hop is like a form of music usually with a DJ mixing different records together to create an entirely new beat out of old music, and then someone rapping on top of it.

Maybe this is just my prespective..?

Yeah, it's all perspective. Rap, to me, is mass produced crap, while hip-hop is more artistic (either with mixing, or entirely original music). But really, they're the same thing.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: Garfang

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Rap is just that, Rap over a beat.

Hip-Hop is like a form of music usually with a DJ mixing different records together to create an entirely new beat out of old music, and then someone rapping on top of it.

Maybe this is just my prespective..?

Yeah, it's all perspective. Rap, to me, is mass produced crap, while hip-hop is more artistic (either with mixing, or entirely original music). But really, they're the same thing.

i agree.....rap comes pre packaged in a can where hip hop is where the real talent of artists is displayed

 

[Maetryx]

I always thought that hip hop incorporated some singing, not just rapping vocals. Like when MC Hammer rapped the verses to "You Can't Touch This" and then a female volalist sang "If you want it, you got it".

 

[ndee]

Rap is actually a form of speaking. To rap, story telling. And hip hop is a culture, lifestyle, like rock'n'roll.

 

[iamme]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Legendary

Yeah there's a non-bias answer

Personally I can't answer this question. No idea what the answer is.

Well, here's why I say that.

I think of rap as like Snoop, Ice T, Tupac.

I think of hip hop as Puff Daddy, Cris Cross, stuff like that.

I don't see how it's biased, and like I said, it's my opinion.

Criss Cross? Those little rugrats that wore their clothes backwards?

 

[joemamma]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
I think that rap is hardcore, story telling, life on the streets stuff.

Hip-hop is like the "pre-fab music in a can by rich boys" stuff.

That's the way I've always seperated them.

wow, it's like you don't even listen to rap/hip hop...i don't think your definitions are entirely corrrect but in my mind hip hop is greater than rap..if anything rap is the prefabricated music whereas hip hop is more pure...i always felt that hip hop was not only a style of music(not only rapping over a beat, but turntabilism and djing also) but it described the culture that the music exists in

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: Maetryx
I always thought that hip hop incorporated some singing, not just rapping vocals. Like when MC Hammer rapped the verses to "You Can't Touch This" and then a female volalist sang "If you want it, you got it".

Are you thinking of Young MC's Bust a Move?

 

[spanky]

well... if u put a C in front of hip-hop... it not longer holds truth.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: joemamma


wow, it's like you don't even listen to rap/hip hop...i don't think your definitions are entirely corrrect but in my mind hip hop is greater than rap..if anything rap is the prefabricated music whereas hip hop is more pure...i always felt that hip hop was not only a style of music(not only rapping over a beat, but turntabilism and djing also) but it described the culture that the music exists in

Well, I don't any more, which might be why no one agrees with me (or maybe I'm just flat out wrong), but I used to listen to the older stuff, like the rap which I mentioned.

Oh, well, like I said, it's just my opinion.

 

[syzygy]

hip-hop is a type of rap according to the link below.

allmusic.com - rap

To the untrained ear, all rap and hip-hop may sound the same, but there's a number of different levels in even the
simplest rap song. At its core, hip-hop is a post-modern musical genre that deconstructs familiar sounds and songs,
rebuilding them as entirely new, unpredictable songs. Early rap records, commonly called "old school," were made by
DJs scratching records and playing drum loops, with MCs rapping over the resulting rhythms. As the genre progressed,
hard-rock guitars and hard-hitting beats were introduced by Run-D.M.C., the first hardcore rap group, and the scratching
techniques were replaced by sampling. With their dense collages of samples, beats and white noise, Public Enemy took
sampling to the extreme, and they helped introduce a social and political conscience to hip-hop. That faded in the '90s,
as gangsta rap ? originally introduced by NWA, who used Public Enemy's sound as a template ? became the dominant
form. By the '90s, gangsta rap, which originally was in direct opposition to such pop-oriented rappers as MC Hammer,
had become smoothed over and stylish, and consequently was more popular than ever, as evidenced by the success
of pop-gangsta Puff Daddy

brief essay on the origins of rap music

 

[TeenHeartthrob]

omfg, you asked the wrong forum man.

hip hop is a culture, when you speak of hip hop artists, you lean more toward lesser known, more artistic groups and individuals. hip hop is more pure, less tainted by money and fame (although not all together, look at the black eyed peas, heh). Hip hop is artistic and beautiful, but unfortunatley it does not have enough mainstream recognition for people of all walks of life to give it credit.

rap is just...well, rap. stuff you hear on the radio, 2pac is rap.

i consider stuff like p. diddy, nelly etc pop rap.

"life on the streets" would usually be classified as gangsta rap.

in the future, i suggest you shy away from asking antisocial, anglo saxon computer nerds the definition of hip hop. hip hop to a lot of these people is "criss cross"

check out audiogalaxy (if the site is still up). They used to have decent definitions of musical genres.

 

[roncarter]

rap is spelled R-A-P

hip hop is spelled hiphop.. (too lazy to spell it out like rap)

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: roncarter
rap is spelled R-A-P

hip hop is spelled hiphop.. (too lazy to spell it out like rap)

What-chu talking 'bout, Willis?

 

[joemamma]

he's trying to be funny

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: TeenHeartthrob
omfg, you asked the wrong forum man.

hip hop is a culture, when you speak of hip hop artists, you lean more toward lesser known, more artistic groups and individuals. hip hop is more pure, less tainted by money and fame (although not all together, look at the black eyed peas, heh). Hip hop is artistic and beautiful, but unfortunatley it does not have enough mainstream recognition for people of all walks of life to give it credit.

rap is just...well, rap. stuff you hear on the radio, 2pac is rap.

i consider stuff like p. diddy, nelly etc pop rap.

"life on the streets" would usually be classified as gangsta rap.

in the future, i suggest you shy away from asking antisocial, anglo saxon computer nerds the definition of hip hop. hip hop to a lot of these people is "criss cross"

check out audiogalaxy (if the site is still up). They used to have decent definitions of musical genres.

Well I would also consider 2pac as hip hop, cuz IMO, rap is a skill, like turntablism, breakdancing or spraying.

 

[bmacd]

Originally posted by: spankyOO7
well... if u put a C in front of hip-hop... it not longer holds truth.

lol @ chip chop.
-=bmacd=-

 

[outriding]

we have both types of music country and western ....