Whats the diff between an assault rifle & a rifle w/hi-cap mag?

[tboo]

LOL

 

[sdifox]

Why does Obama (and the US gov't in general over time) supply assault weapons and rifles to civilians around the world, and then claim there's no need for civilians to have assault weapons?

How come a Libyan civilian can have an M16 or AK47 delivered to him, and I can't have an AR-15 with a 20 round magazine?

Why are other country's civilians given assault weapons and rifles by our gov't, to protect themselves from their government, but I can't have a 15 round Glock?

Why am I not afforded equal opportunity? 😀

because giving you guns does not serve the interest of the USA 😎

 

[phucheneh]

Is that an AK-47 with a Plymouth Valiant attachment?

 

[pontifex]

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As you pontifex simply are not thinking rationally when it comes to lethality in any given bullet.

As there are four factors at work here.

(1) The diameter of the bullet, as a O.22 bullet are all the diameter even if they sometimes play fast and loose with bore size designations As they may call it a .223, and .222, or a 22-250.

(2) When the real factor that defines lethality is muzzle velocity. Something like a .22 long rifle comes out muzzle at something like 1365 feet per second firing a 40 grain bullet. Something like a Ar-15 bullet fires a heavier bullet at triple the velocity. And with resulting bullet carrying energy proportionate with the square of the velocity, the muzzle energy is far higher along along with the lethality.

(3) Once velocities beyond about 2500 feet per second are achieved, a new factor of hydrological shock greatly increases lethality.

(4) IMHO, the AR-15 military round violates the Geneva convention, because it has insufficient spin to stabilize its longer bullet. As a result it tends to turn sidewards and do far more damage when it hits flesh. Sure even a .22 caliber LR round can kill the average 5'th grader only if it hits a vital spot, but if a gun nut want to achieve success in killing 5'th graders you can't beat the Ar-15 round when your aim can be far less precise. Somehow, as a legitimate sports hunter, I don't select guns useful for only killing 5'th graders or adults. Especially when its illegal to hunt deer size game with a .22 caliber rifle in 50 out of 50 US States.

i meant .22lr, not .22 caliber as in .223

i'm not really sure wtf you are talking about though.

 

[fuzzymitx]

i meant .22lr, not .22 caliber as in .223

i'm not really sure wtf you are talking about though.

Lemon

The army saw in Iraq that the M4 at short range, ie Urban was firing rounds at such a velocity that they were in fact NOT tumbling and merely penetrating... Oddly enough this same thing was seen elsewhere in recent shootings... Please stop spreading fud

 

[BurnItDwn]

I used to carry an assault stick when I traveled in sub optimum areas.

Your assault stick is missing the poo on the end of it. It's not very useful!

Much more dangerous...

 

[Kadarin]

Actually, for the pictured Mini-14 that is a "hi-cap" magazine. Unlike most AR-15s, The standard capacity magazine it ships with is a 5 rounder.

Yeah... I was looking at that picture but thinking about the AR15 and liberals calling 30rd magazines "hi-cap". A 100rd drum is hi-cap. 30 is standard, and our CA-legal 10rd bullet-button mags are pathetic.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

All guns are the same, the only difference is how many lives they destroy and tears they bring.

Agreed.

Destroyed lives of criminals and the victim's tears of happiness for escaping being harmed or killed assaulted by criminals.

 

[olds]

Yeah... I was looking at that picture but thinking about the AR15 and liberals calling 30rd magazines "hi-cap". A 100rd drum is hi-cap. 30 is standard, and our CA-legal 10rd bullet-button mags are pathetic.

I'll run my 30 rounders in my next AR15 build.

 

[DCal430]

All guns are the same, the only difference is how many lives they destroy and tears they bring.

Ding ding ding,

Guns have one function which is to murder, maim, and destroy. Those who own a gun own a weapon that causes devestation to those around it.

 

[Kadarin]

I'll run my 30 rounders in my next AR15 build.

Featureless?

 

[olds]

Featureless?

Yep.

 

[olds]

Ding ding ding,

Guns have one function which is to murder, maim, and destroy. Those who own a gun own a weapon that causes devestation to those around it.

Well, some things/people need murdering, maiming or destroying.

 

[highland145]

Well, some things/people need murdering, maiming or destroying.

QFT and it's quite enjoyable.

 

[micrometers]

This is the Ruger Mini-14. It uses the same bullets (.223) as the AR-15.

But it's made of wood and obviously doesnt look like an assault rifle that u see on TV.

So is there a definition of assault rifle?

Among other things, it is so long that it would be somewhat difficult to manuver indoors.

Assault rifles are often short enough to move around in indoor environments easily.

But yes, I would ban it.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Well, some things/people need murdering, maiming or destroying.

i executed a few milk jugs and target papers with 9mm FMJ and 12ga bird shot. it was an excellent christmas day with my brother :thumbsup:

 

[TallBill]

Among other things, it is so long that it would be somewhat difficult to manuver indoors.

Assault rifles are often short enough to move around in indoor environments easily.

But yes, I would ban it.

Lol you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

 

[BladeVenom]

Governments are the ones who can't be trusted with weapons. Governments have murdered 260 million people in the 20th century. http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

Look at that and tell me how any sane person could even consider disarming civilians.

 

[nehalem256]

Guns have one function which is to murder, maim, and destroy.

What about threatening people?

Or making you feel more secure in your manhood?

Those who own a gun own a weapon that causes devestation to those around it.

Wrong. Millions of people own guns that cause zero destruction to those around it.

Its not like those pool toys. 🙄

 

[JEDI]

Among other things, it is so long that it would be somewhat difficult to manuver indoors.

Assault rifles are often short enough to move around in indoor environments easily.

But yes, I would ban it.

arent all civilian ar-15 16" min?

 

[Farmer]

arent all civilian ar-15 16" min?

You can get less than 16" in some states, but it requires registration, tax, and general headache.

 

[TallBill]

You can get less than 16" in some states, but it requires registration, tax, and general headache.

SBR is legal in a bunch of states. Once again though, if a criminal is going to shorten their rifle for crime, they probably don't care about that law.

 

[TallBill]

Plus the fact that the notion of controlling sbrs helping anything is comical.

 

[irishScott]

SBR is legal in a bunch of states. Once again though, if a criminal is going to shorten their rifle for crime, they probably don't care about that law.

This. Especially considering said mod can be done with a hacksaw.

 

[Deleted member 4644]

Fascinating.