what's the diff between a movie in digital projection and non-digital projection?

slikmunks

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i was looking at movie tickets online, and i noticed a theatre has the same movie in DLP and non-DLP... but the non-DLP has the dts and thx symbols, while the DLP doesn't... what's the difference, which is better, and why?
 

slikmunks

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is there a significant difference in quality? what about the dts and thx symbols...?
 

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Originally posted by: slikmunks
is there a significant difference in quality? what about the dts and thx symbols...?

Think DVD (digital projection) compared to VHS (film).

DTS and THX are sound formats I believe. I'll leave this for some audiophile to comment on...
 

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Originally posted by: slikmunks
is there a significant difference in quality? what about the dts and thx symbols...?
DTS is a multi-channel surround sound format, THX is a standard for the manufacture and calibration of the equipment used to display the video and audio.

While the movie on the DLP screen may not be on THX certified equipment, I'm almost certain they will have surround sound. Either Dolby Digital, DTS or SDDS.

I have seen movies on DLP and I prefer them to film projectors for a few reasons. One of the advantages is that even after a movie has been playing for weeks there is no degredation like you see with film such as grain and scratches. Also the picture remains rock steady the entire time.

Many think that DLP still has a ways to go and they are likely right. When sitting too close to the screen you can actually see the pixels that make up the image during certain scenes but you really have to look for them.

It is only a matter of time until the technology matures and takes over.

 

slikmunks

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cool, well i'm gonna be watching daredevil on friday, so i don't need to worry about the degredation of the film or anything for the non-DLP, but i think i'll check out the DLP one anyways
 

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i dunno... from my experience watching star wars, watching the digital projection was like watching a dvd on a movie screen. when i saw the non digital projection, i noticed all the blips in the film, which after seeing the digital projection, was visually distracting.
 

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film projection is high resolution, but prone to scratches and dirt. current dlp is low resolution but doesn't degrade.


i've seen two dlp screens. bad sh*t. u know the text between trailers? the text was chunky! pixel chunky, good lord, i thought we were past all that. back in the day of old vga/ega 320x240 games yea, pixelly text fine. but not for theater projection.

anyways, in bright slow moving areas many times you can see pixel grids. some people can't see or sit far back enough not to notice, but thats not saying much for a format that should be superior in all ways, not just eventually more profitable for the industry.

 

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as for starwars digital /film comparison, thats an unfair comparison since it was shot on digital, not film. you lose a generation when transfering to film. not to mention the cameras were basically beta and the resolution wasn't all that high, certainly not as high as film. so the film transfer was limited to the digital cameras resolution combined with the loss of quality in the transfer.
 

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Keep in mind that those digital projectors have terrible resolution. They can maybe put up 1.3 million pixels compared with a 35 mm print which is around 8 million pixels. On a big screen you will see some pixelation which is crappy to see from a film your paying $10 to see.

In ten years they will have digital projetors that can do 10 million pixels maybe.
 

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yea, it was about 1mpix or whatever. totally sad, my worst digital camera does that.:(

i was shocked and dissapointed when i saw dlp after all the hype. i do not EVER want to see pixels when i have to pay for an expensive ticket!!
 

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Originally posted by: slikmunks
so should i go watch the film one rather than the dlp?

See the DLP version and see what it's all about. Then you can come back and post your thoughts here.
 

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dts and thx are definetly nice. thx, supposed speaker standard, i consider it a minimum standard of quality.

dts on the other hand is important. its the actual format. i think dts ussually comes on two cds for full digital surround playback with no degrading as the film gets played many times.

on the other hand you have cheese formats like sdds from (&#%@ sony that gets printed directly on the film. i think sdds actually is made up of dots on the side of the film, it degrades and is inferior quality in the first place:p
 

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Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
Originally posted by: slikmunks
is there a significant difference in quality? what about the dts and thx symbols...?

Think DVD (digital projection) compared to VHS (film).

DTS and THX are sound formats I believe. I'll leave this for some audiophile to comment on...

I think this is a bad analogy. VHS is really nothing like film. I think i see your line of thinking, though, since VHS and film are both analog. However film is very high resolution, and with current technolgy I think Film > DLP and DVD > VHS.
 

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Remember too that in dlp it matters where you sit (big difference in quality if you are near the edges or close to the screen) a lot more than film.
 

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
on the other hand you have cheese formats like sdds from (&#%@ sony that gets printed directly on the film. i think sdds actually is made up of dots on the side of the film, it degrades and is inferior quality in the first place:p
Dolby Digital is done this way also, never noticed a problem.

SDDS actually has redunant audio on the filmstrip in case the primary messes up.

DTS is done via CD but the filmstrip still has the required timecodes to keep the audio in synch.
 

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SDDS actually has redunant audio on the filmstrip in case the primary messes up.

not redundant enough from what i've heard during some worn playbacks. pop! bah
 

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
dts and thx are definetly nice. thx, supposed speaker standard, i consider it a minimum standard of quality.

dts on the other hand is important. its the actual format. i think dts ussually comes on two cds for full digital surround playback with no degrading as the film gets played many times.

on the other hand you have cheese formats like sdds from (&#%@ sony that gets printed directly on the film. i think sdds actually is made up of dots on the side of the film, it degrades and is inferior quality in the first place:p

SDDS is a digital format, whether the information is stored on cd or the film's edge doesn't matter much. SDDS is also an 8 channel format and uses moderate compression of 5 to 1.