Pliablemoose
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- Oct 11, 1999
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Again a hidden branch of people doing things by themselves. The church wasn't condoning those actions. It's like saying priests molesting children is doctrine.
Which is completely unlike, how Scientology forces you to sign away your rights to take legal action against them, for what they do to you.
Phoenix86
Lifer
- May 21, 2003
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It was done by mainstream religion. Who said it was "hidden" did you bother searching? Who do you think funds nunneries?
Your original statement said nothing of it being doctrine, so I was just showing you that "Kidnapping, brainwashing, people dying mysteriously in their "care"." does indeed happen, fairly recently too.
The beliefs of scientology are no more ridiculous than those of Christians, but the Church of Scientology is one of the most dangerous churches tolerated as a legitimate organization by the US (though many countries are sensible enough not to tolerate scientology any more than they'd tolerate the IRA.)
Being a sociology major in undergrad I took a class about religions and why people join them etc. We learned alot about scientology. Sociology basically classifies religions into 3 main categores: a) maintstream, b) sects, and c) cults. A certain religion is categorized based on what society you are in. In the US Catholics/Protestant Christianity is the dominant religion so it falls under mainstream. Any religion of the same faith with more extreme values or seen as deviant falls under sect, ie Mormans/Adventists/Jahova Witnesses. A cult is any religion that doesn't adhere to the norm faith, these can include Scientology, Satanists, UFO people (ie Raelians), and even Islam, Buddhism, etc. Likewise in the middle east, Christianity is defined as a cult whereas Islam is mainstream. Religion itself is basically defined as a set of values/rules that offer explanations to answers that we do not know (ie creation of the universe, what happens when we die, etc) Anyways thats how religion and cult are related in terms of sociology.
Scientology was founded by Hubbard, who was a scifi writer that tried to make a big break into the world of psychology. He really really really wanted psychologists to accept his theories about whatever he made up. Of course the pyschology world flat out rejected and humilated him and he got upset and said screw it, and made his little religion. Someone posted a good summary of the beliefs ealier so I won't go into it much, but basically lets say you are afraid of heights. Well the reason you are afraid of heights might be because you fell off a bridge in a previous life, and this left a bad memory in your soul called an engram. Scientology has therapists that can hypnotize you and such to remove this engram (this all costs money of course) so you will no longer fear heights and that takes you one step closer to human perfection (Tom Cruise and John Travola have reached the stage of perfection btw). Scientology has big time money, and even bigger time attorneys. So it's usually pretty rare to see bad things about this religion in the media. Of course after this Tom Cruise stuff on TV who knows.
Scientology was founded by Hubbard, who was a scifi writer that tried to make a big break into the world of psychology. He really really really wanted psychologists to accept his theories about whatever he made up. Of course the pyschology world flat out rejected and humilated him and he got upset and said screw it, and made his little religion. Someone posted a good summary of the beliefs ealier so I won't go into it much, but basically lets say you are afraid of heights. Well the reason you are afraid of heights might be because you fell off a bridge in a previous life, and this left a bad memory in your soul called an engram. Scientology has therapists that can hypnotize you and such to remove this engram (this all costs money of course) so you will no longer fear heights and that takes you one step closer to human perfection (Tom Cruise and John Travola have reached the stage of perfection btw). Scientology has big time money, and even bigger time attorneys. So it's usually pretty rare to see bad things about this religion in the media. Of course after this Tom Cruise stuff on TV who knows.
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
It was done by mainstream religion. Who said it was "hidden" did you bother searching? Who do you think funds nunneries?
Your original statement said nothing of it being doctrine, so I was just showing you that "Kidnapping, brainwashing, people dying mysteriously in their "care"." does indeed happen, fairly recently too.
You will still have to show me Catholic doctrine that specifically states this was a Church Sanctioned process. The only thing that I'm pulling up on the subject is text covering over 100 years ago about people being shocked to see priests running operations like this.
To the modern era, people are shocked at what priests/religious members are doing right now. Though perhaps that could be said about a good portion of humanity on various topics.
Read here
Ummm here
there was this guy who was like Captain Planet, Silver Surfer, and Fantastic Four all rolled into 1--he had immense power... so much power he can do whatever he wants... so much power we cant even begin to fathom and understand him. He's so powerful that he can divide by Zero.
So, for reasons we dont know (cuz we cant understand him because hes powerful, remember) he created the world. Then he put together some dust and clay and created man. He decided to give the guy a wife... but instead of dust, he put the guy to sleep and pulled out a rib and created the girl from the rib. I suppose they were all naked and all, and even though being husband and wife, they werent supposed to be cognizant of their body parts or shamefullness or whatever.... until they eat the magical apple!
See Yahweh put an apple in their garden that had magical properties... all the other trees and fruits were normal... this tree was special and was the tree of knowledge and it bore special knowledge fruits. To tempt them into eating it, there was this snake there that KNEW HOW TO TALK. and boy was it a good talker, too... because it tricked the couple into eating the apple.
fast forward sometimes... to when people were living 'til 600 years of age and stuff. God decided that his playEarth was shtty and he watned to destroy it... of course he had all the power--powers that we cant imagine.. but instead of *poof*ing the earth away he flooded it. So he told his old 600 man to make a boat. i suppose he made it by himself.. a boat wide and grand enough to carry 2 of every species on the earth. god was a pretty powerful dude so he mustve created 9 billion species but lets digress. so this family was on the boat with all the animals and they survive the flood and then repopulate the earth
see... how is that any less credible of a story than Xenu and scientology ? dont forget to leave your tithe at the door
So, for reasons we dont know (cuz we cant understand him because hes powerful, remember) he created the world. Then he put together some dust and clay and created man. He decided to give the guy a wife... but instead of dust, he put the guy to sleep and pulled out a rib and created the girl from the rib. I suppose they were all naked and all, and even though being husband and wife, they werent supposed to be cognizant of their body parts or shamefullness or whatever.... until they eat the magical apple!
See Yahweh put an apple in their garden that had magical properties... all the other trees and fruits were normal... this tree was special and was the tree of knowledge and it bore special knowledge fruits. To tempt them into eating it, there was this snake there that KNEW HOW TO TALK. and boy was it a good talker, too... because it tricked the couple into eating the apple.
fast forward sometimes... to when people were living 'til 600 years of age and stuff. God decided that his playEarth was shtty and he watned to destroy it... of course he had all the power--powers that we cant imagine.. but instead of *poof*ing the earth away he flooded it. So he told his old 600 man to make a boat. i suppose he made it by himself.. a boat wide and grand enough to carry 2 of every species on the earth. god was a pretty powerful dude so he mustve created 9 billion species but lets digress. so this family was on the boat with all the animals and they survive the flood and then repopulate the earth
see... how is that any less credible of a story than Xenu and scientology ? dont forget to leave your tithe at the door
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You guys just don't understand the HISTORY of psychology! Ritalin is a STREET DRUG! Brooke should've KILLED her baby and given us all our money in order to release some of her thetans! Damn you Xenu!!!! DAMN YOU!!!!
L Ron Hubbard.... Writes a book about how to live a better life.... then dies... Damn thetans.
L Ron Hubbard.... Writes a book about how to live a better life.... then dies... Damn thetans.
I remember when i was a kid, there was a Dianetics "store" down the road from me. I would walk by it every day on the way to the grocery store. I had no idea what Scientology was at the time and found it strange that they would setup an entire store dedicated to one book!
- Oct 30, 1999
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From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu
A very funny, funny read. I literally laughed out loud. I'd EASILY believe in ANY other religion other than this one after reading this. This stuff makes the Bible read like a Refinancing Your Home For Dummies book.
My favorite part:
Funny stuff! A MUST READ!
A very funny, funny read. I literally laughed out loud. I'd EASILY believe in ANY other religion other than this one after reading this. This stuff makes the Bible read like a Refinancing Your Home For Dummies book.
My favorite part:
Funny stuff! A MUST READ!
this scientology religion thing would never have gotten this much publicity w/o tom cruise. The should make him the "pope" of scientology. He'll attract millions of young women around the world.
btw, i'm athiest
btw, i'm athiest
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