What's the best store to return an unopened item without a receipt?

[wyvrn]

I hope walmart is selling the item for 25% less than he bought it for so he has to take a loss for using them as a rental. LOL

 

[Ameesh]

<< This might be the off-topic forums, but this place is not a school, nor are we a teacher >>



what would you know about schools or teachers? you skip school and fock your bf, then you lie to your parents about it and your complaining about this guy asking for store credit? Jeez talk about hypocrite.

 

[Jzero]

<< yer a moron. Lets say you return it and get back $50. Lets say they normally buy them for $30. Assuming they don't run out of stock on either item when somebody wants to buy it their selling the copy you're returning makes them only break even so you've cost them $20 on each game. >>



I must be missing something here.
I give the game to the store. In accordance with their return policy for unopened item with no receipt, they give me the lowest sale price. Let's say it's the same as the regular price. Let's say it's $40.
They give me $40 in STORE CREDIT. It's the VALUE OF THE ITEM.
They put it back on their shelves and sell it for $40.

So remind me how they would be losing anything?

 

[Jerboy]

<< HELO! These items are UNOPENED. We're not talking about returning something that is opened or used. We're not talking about using the store as a "rental" agency.

These games are unopened and in condition to be sold as new. If the store's return policy permits it (and they often do for store credit), he's hardly screwing them. >>




Well yes and no..

When a store gets something with retail value of $50 for $30 and sell it for $50, the mark up is $20 and fraction of that is revenue.

When a customer returns the product, you'll just have to return the customer the mark ups as well.


However, when some fraudulent preson comes in with this same merchandice from another source and store pays out full credit, it's pure loss of $20, because the store could have purchased exact same item from it's vendor for $30.

 

[StageLeft]

OK it's all about store credit. If he gets back store credit it makes no diff to walmart. If they give back cash and he uses it elsewhere yes he's screwed them out of the profit they make selling the games.

I'm not even saying it's an evil thing to do - I'm just saying in that case if not store credit yes it is stealing.

 

[wyvrn]

<< However, when some fraudulent preson comes in with this same merchandice from another source and store pays out full credit, it's pure loss of $20, because the store could have purchased exact same item from it's vendor for $30.
>>



Good point. They would be making $0 profit on the item unless they marked it above their original price.

 

[mflacy]

Uh-oh, I better not do it.

I don't want to lose sleep from screwing a corporate giant out of $20.

 

[Jerboy]

<<

<< This might be the off-topic forums, but this place is not a school, nor are we a teacher >>



what would you know about schools or teachers? you skip school and fock your bf, then you lie to your parents about it and your complaining about this guy asking for store credit? Jeez talk about hypocrite. >>




You have no clue. Skipping school once in a while doesn't imply I'm clueless about schools and teachers. Lying, per my definition is making a false statement. Not going up to my parents to tell them what I did that they doesn't fit the definition of lying.

His case is completely different. My incidence was between myself and my bf. There was no attempt made for my personal gain through a criminal action toward a third party, such as fraudulent credit claiming against Walmart.




<< Uh-oh, I better not do it.

I don't want to lose sleep from screwing a corporate giant out of $20.
>>



The amount is not the point. $20 is $20 and it's $20. I suppose it won't be a problem if I took one of your hubcap, becuase you're only screwed by $20.

 

[Jzero]

<< OK it's all about store credit. If he gets back store credit it makes no diff to walmart. If they give back cash and he uses it elsewhere yes he's screwed them out of the profit they make selling the games.

I'm not even saying it's an evil thing to do - I'm just saying in that case if not store credit yes it is stealing. >>



Oh yeh...definitely. Although, if they're dumb enough to have a return policy in which they'll give you a cash refund without a receipt....good God 🙂

 

[wyvrn]

Now we know who the fawking tool is

You aren't screwing a corporate giant. Profits pay payroll, insurance, benefits, and help keep prices down. You are screwing the people who work at walmart and raising prices for yourself in the same stroke. Duh!



<< Uh-oh, I better not do it.

I don't want to lose sleep from screwing a corporate giant out of $20. >>

 

[Hammer]

I actually did this once. I bought my PS2 from walmart.com near the launch date and of course they forced me to buy a bundle. I took the 3 games the provided and returned them to walmart for store credit, and got another controller and a memory card and still had a lot left. 🙂

 

[Ameesh]

do you guys understand the concept of dollar cost averaging, im sure wal mart has thought of this situation but doesnt care because:

1) When the guy returns the game and doesnt get too many hassles, hes more likely to shop there because of good customer service, will enable them to get more then a measly $20 from him

2) On average they wont take a hit on returns because in the long run they will have sold more items to those customers ( ie while he was there he decide to just pick up the sock and batteries that he needed and grabbed a pack of gum and some soda as he left)

3) He has good potential to tell his family and friends ( i just bought some shoes from famous footwear, one of the stichs came out and i need to exchange them when i arrived there was a nother great sale on so i wanted to return them and get in on the better deal (it was past the return date) but the manager came out and said no problem. I got a 2 brand new pairs of shes with only an additional cost of $20) Look i told my firends , family, and now you guys you dont think thats good for business at all, i will always shop there because they gave me great service.


you guys have a very myopic view of the situation.

 

[wyvrn]

Your post doesn't have a single valid pt. in it. Try to use your grey matter next time you post, eh?



<< do you guys understand the concept of dollar cost averaging, im sure wal mart has thought of this situation but doesnt care because:

1) When the guy returns the game and doesnt get too many hassles, hes more likely to shop there because of good customer service, will enable them to get more then a measly $20 from him

2) On average they wont take a hit on returns because in the long run they will have sold more items to those customers ( ie while he was there he decide to just pick up the sock and batteries that he needed and grabbed a pack of gum and some soda as he left)

3) He has good potential to tell his family and friends ( i just bought some shoes from famous footwear, one of the stichs came out and i need to exchange them when i arrived there was a nother great sale on so i wanted to return them and get in on the better deal (it was past the return date) but the manager came out and said no problem. I got a 2 brand new pairs of shes with only an additional cost of $20) Look i told my firends , family, and now you guys you dont think thats good for business at all, i will always shop there because they gave me great service.


you guys have a very myopic view of the situation. >>

 

[StageLeft]

Well this assumes, ameesh, that he doesn't already know about walmart. I doubt he'll shop there more cause of this but I don't really know.

All I'm saying is that in this case it is stealing if they don't give store credit but rather give cash for him to spend elsewhere. If they do give store credit it seems underhanded but they lose nothing so it really isn't.

And lastly I'm not saying I wouldn't do it. I like to play devil's advocate. I steal mp3s all day long but I won't sit here and tell you it isn't theft because it is and I know it. Now how I manage to guiltlessly live with myself doing this while maintaining a view that I have higher principles than the average person I don't know 😀

 

[Jerboy]

<< do you guys understand the concept of dollar cost averaging, im sure wal mart has thought of this situation but doesnt care because:

1) When the guy returns the game and doesnt get too many hassles, hes more likely to shop there because of good customer service, will enable them to get more then a measly $20 from him

2) On average they wont take a hit on returns because in the long run they will have sold more items to those customers ( ie while he was there he decide to just pick up the sock and batteries that he needed and grabbed a pack of gum and some soda as he left) >>






<<
3) He has good potential to tell his family and friends ( i just bought some shoes from famous footwear, one of the stichs came out and i need to exchange them when i arrived there was a nother great sale on so i wanted to return them and get in on the better deal (it was past the return date) but the manager came out and said no problem. I got a 2 brand new pairs of shes with only an additional cost of $20) Look i told my firends , family, and now you guys you dont think thats good for business at all, i will always shop there because they gave me great service. >>



It was acceptable because you reached an agreement after a negotiation. Wal*Mart might not care too much over $20, but I am in no way saying what the original poster is doing is okay. Some people who think it's ok to screw someone else for their cause will continue to do such thing and such expense is calculated in management, but so is the cost of thefts and vandalism.

 

[wyvrn]

<< All I'm saying is that in this case it is stealing if they don't give store credit but rather give cash for him to spend elsewhere. If they do give store credit it seems underhanded but they lose nothing so it really isn't.
>>



Read Jerboy's post above. They are losing their normal profit on the item, because they never got his original purchase. They are in essence buying the game from him at their normal price and then selling for the same price. He is using their facilities and they make 0 profit.

 

[mflacy]

Is everyone ready for the punch line?

I purchased these games at Walmart.com. 😛 I will be returning them at my local store with my original invoice.

Ah, this was fun. Let's do it again some time.

 

[StageLeft]

<<

<< All I'm saying is that in this case it is stealing if they don't give store credit but rather give cash for him to spend elsewhere. If they do give store credit it seems underhanded but they lose nothing so it really isn't.
>>



Read Jerboy's post above. They are losing their normal profit on the item, because they never got his original purchase. They are in essence buying the game from him at their normal price and then selling for the same price. He is using their facilities and they make 0 profit. >>

Well the thing is IF he uses that money in their facilities they basically trade a PS2 game for, say, a large case of vaseline and playgirl mags. So their lose nothing and make nothing. He does use their facilities and manpower though for the small amount of time in this and since they make no profit for it yeah I suppose it is still technically "stealing".

 

[StageLeft]

<< Is everyone ready for the punch line?

I purchased these games at Walmart.com. 😛 I will be returning them at my local store with my original invoice.

Ah, that was fun. >>

Good cover but nobody here believes the lies.

 

[Jzero]

<< It was acceptable because you reached an agreement after a negotiation. Wal*Mart might not care too much over $20, but I am in no way saying what the original poster is doing is okay. Some people who think it's ok to screw someone else for their cause will continue to do such thing and such expense is calculated in management, but so is the cost of thefts and vandalism. >>


Many stores will not take a return on ANYTHING if you don't have a receipt.
It's a business choice.

 

[Jerboy]

<<

<< All I'm saying is that in this case it is stealing if they don't give store credit but rather give cash for him to spend elsewhere. If they do give store credit it seems underhanded but they lose nothing so it really isn't.
>>



Read Jerboy's post above. They are losing their normal profit on the item, because they never got his original purchase. They are in essence buying the game from him at their normal price and then selling for the same price. He is using their facilities and they make 0 profit. >>



Zero profit at the best. Realistically, how about thinking loss? Using employee's labor to handle fraudulent returns, additional work load on restocking and inspection and other related human hours consumed.

 

[Yo Ma Ma]

If a store has a no receipt return policy then I would imagine they know some items returned have not been purchased there and have already taken that into consideration. For instance, if a person returns $50 retail (let's say $30 wholesale) in mdse and is issued a store credit, they will be spending that $50 on items already marked up to retail in that store. No doubt there are deviations but in the end it is probably a wash.

 

[wyvrn]

He is using their facilities as a market for his game. He is getting the benefit of their advertising, storefront, so on instead of using other methods to sell the game (at a loss), like eBay or forsale/trade forums. Walmart is in business to make money. Because they do this well, they employ many people and help stimulate the economy. If Walmart took returns from every store and used their facilities to resell them making 0 profit, they would go out of business.



<< Zero profit at the best. Realistically, how about thinking loss? Using employee's labor to handle fraudulent returns, additional work load on restocking and inspection and other related human hours consumed.
>>



You are one of the only people in this thread that understands basic economics.

 

[Ameesh]

<<

<< Is everyone ready for the punch line?

I purchased these games at Walmart.com. 😛 I will be returning them at my local store with my original invoice.

Ah, that was fun. >>

Good cover but nobody here believes the lies. >>



seriously lest see a screen cap of the order confirmation page. (in the next 5 minutes)

 

[Jerboy]

Let's say clothing have 40% markup. Talking about extreme example, if you bought 500 of those from a stockhouse and claimed WalMart for it's retail price, then go ahead and buy some of their other stuff with store credit , can you say there is no loss? Compared to having you buy all the stuff you're going to by with cash obviously.




<< If a store has a no receipt return policy then I would imagine they know some items returned have not been purchased there and have already taken that into consideration. For instance, if a person returns $50 retail (let's say $30 wholesale) in mdse and is issued a store credit, they will be spending that $50 on items already marked up to retail in that store. No doubt there are deviations but in the end it is probably a wash. >>



They do this to attract customers and also make it a good experience for the customers. Yeah so let's abuse the policy so they'll update to a new more strict policies that cause people who have legit returns more PITA.