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What's the best SSD for a "Gaming only" rig?

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PICBoy

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Hello, I'm planning to build a very cheap but super effective Gaming PC and considering using SSD exclusively for DX9/10 Gaming. This PC would have 2 hard drives as well as 2 operating system, the mechanical one would hold Win XP SP3 and would be used for storage and every day computing and old games.

SSD would be just for gaming, no surfing on the web, no messenger, no anti virus. Only Vista Home Basic SP1 32 bit and 1 or 2 DX10 games installed at the same time. Which SSD do you recommend with my $110 budget and I don't mind 32GB. I don't play multiple games at the same time, 2 at most. I'm considering these so far:

Patriot PE32GS25SSDR 32GB
OCZ Core Series V2 OCZSSD2-2C30G 30GB

If I follow the manufacturer tips will I still have stuttering even if I just game with auto save disabled? 😕

Any advise is welcome, I haven't bought anything for this PC yet.
 
pcper.com has just reviewed an engineering sample of the ocz summit. And it is very impressive, it compares well with the intel X25-M at half the price.
Now are you going to be using it for gaming AND OS or JUST a dedicated gaming drive?

The core series is pure shit, it is a jmicron MLC drive and is signficantly slower than a regular drive, it is only compareable to LAPTOP drives... in the desktop you should get a velociraptor, or if you have more money get an intel X25-M (or E), or one of the new drives coming in the future (like the summit) when they are available.

almost every SSD < Velociraptor < Intel X25-M = OCZ summit (so it seems from early engineering samples and ONE review... need more info) < Intel X25-E
 
Originally posted by: PICBoy
Hello, I'm planning to build a very cheap but super effective Gaming PC and considering using SSD exclusively for DX9/10 Gaming. This PC would have 2 hard drives as well as 2 operating system, the mechanical one would hold Win XP SP3 and would be used for storage and every day computing and old games.

SSD would be just for gaming, no surfing on the web, no messenger, no anti virus. Only Vista Home Basic SP1 32 bit and 1 or 2 DX10 games installed at the same time. Which SSD do you recommend with my $110 budget and I don't mind 32GB. I don't play multiple games at the same time, 2 at most. I'm considering these so far:

Patriot PE32GS25SSDR 32GB
OCZ Core Series V2 OCZSSD2-2C30G 30GB

If I follow the manufacturer tips will I still have stuttering even if I just game with auto save disabled? 😕

Any advise is welcome, I haven't bought anything for this PC yet.
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Neither of those are any good... Both are the old stuttering models.
 
oh wait that is patriot SSD, i thought you were mentioning your RAM... yea its the same crap as the core series, they are in fact exactly the same, only rebranded... both are Jmicron MLC which is really really bad.
 
Originally posted by: taltamir
oh wait that is patriot SSD, i thought you were mentioning your RAM... yea its the same crap as the core series, they are in fact exactly the same, only rebranded... both are Jmicron MLC which is really really bad.
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You keep talking like that and they aren't ever going to clear out that inventory as needed before they roll out the new models 😉
 
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: taltamir
oh wait that is patriot SSD, i thought you were mentioning your RAM... yea its the same crap as the core series, they are in fact exactly the same, only rebranded... both are Jmicron MLC which is really really bad.
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You keep talking like that and they aren't ever going to clear out that inventory as needed before they roll out the new models 😉
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Hey, congrats on 4k posts
 
Originally posted by: PICBoy
Hello, I'm planning to build a very cheap but super effective Gaming PC and considering using SSD
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Cheap... and SSD? LOLOLOL!

My WoW directory is 12.5GB. My Steam directory is 27.3GB.

Unless/until you can afford a better SSD, stick to normal drives. What is the other HDD you were getting? Perhaps you can combine the two into a VelociRaptor 300GB?

Originally posted by: PICBoy
Any advise is welcome, I haven't bought anything for this PC yet.
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Good. You're doing this in the right order. I've seen way too many threads asking "I just ordered all the parts, did I make the right choices?" Those are made of fail. 😛
 
I'd agree a dedicated game drive smaller than 120GB is simply not even worth it. Also, from a pure performance standpoint, you may be better off with 2 fast HDDs in RAID 0, say 2x640GB WD or 2x320GB WD. Not only would you get a ton more storage, you'd get overall better performance as well.

I plan to go SSD in RAID 0 and pay a heavy premium for it, but right now the size options and price simply don't make sense. My 300GB Raptor array is full, so I'll want at least 300-500GB in my SSD array.
 
SSDs and affordable/cheap are mutually exclusive at the moment.

All cheap SSDs are crap (contrary to what all these new members to the forums post ... I wonder what their agenda is 😉).
With SSDs it is ... you get what you pay for:
- SLC SSDs are good but $$$$$$
- intel SSDs are good but $$$
- Samsung SSDs are good but $$$

Everything else out right now is crap.
For a gaming rig SSDs are not the bottleneck anyhow.
 
Originally posted by: coolVariable
SSDs and affordable/cheap are mutually exclusive at the moment.

All cheap SSDs are crap (contrary to what all these new members to the forums post ... I wonder what their agenda is 😉).
With SSDs it is ... you get what you pay for:
- SLC SSDs are good but $$$$$$
- intel SSDs are good but $$$
- Samsung SSDs are good but $$$

Everything else out right now is crap.
For a gaming rig SSDs are not the bottleneck anyhow.
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I think coolVariable just invented a new metric here - crap/dollar

:laugh:

I want to be l33t and maximize my crap/dollar!

Is this the best drive for crap/dollar optimization?
 
rick james just joined, and so far he keeps on telling people (in different threads) to buy these AWESOME (shitty) 64GB ssds (now with rebate)... Is he an undercover marketing guy? either that or he doesn't know crap. Those drives he suggests are pure shit.

And cool variables got it WAY wrong. The correct order in performance is:
Intel SLC > Intel MLC > Velociraptor > Samsung SLC (or rebadged) > Jmicron MLC (pure shit, and the most common SSD).

I think idontcare got it right when he said its crappiness per dollar that he is measuring in...
 
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: taltamir
oh wait that is patriot SSD, i thought you were mentioning your RAM... yea its the same crap as the core series, they are in fact exactly the same, only rebranded... both are Jmicron MLC which is really really bad.
Click to expand...

You keep talking like that and they aren't ever going to clear out that inventory as needed before they roll out the new models 😉
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Hey, congrats on 4k posts
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Jesus! Did I hit that already? Dam I must be posting waaaay to much these days. Yikes :shocked:
 
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: taltamir
oh wait that is patriot SSD, i thought you were mentioning your RAM... yea its the same crap as the core series, they are in fact exactly the same, only rebranded... both are Jmicron MLC which is really really bad.
Click to expand...

You keep talking like that and they aren't ever going to clear out that inventory as needed before they roll out the new models 😉
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Hey, congrats on 4k posts
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Jesus! Did I hit that already? Dam I must be posting waaaay to much these days. Yikes :shocked:
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lol, 26 posts later 😉
 
Originally posted by: Idontcare
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Jesus! Did I hit that already? Dam I must be posting waaaay to much these days. Yikes :shocked:
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No worry. You haven't hit 4k yet. That will be 4096.

btw, from the little bit I've read about ssd's and their short lifetime, they don't seem to be ready for prime time at any price. I give them 1-2 years.
 
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Idontcare
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Jesus! Did I hit that already? Dam I must be posting waaaay to much these days. Yikes :shocked:
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No worry. You haven't hit 4k yet. That will be 4096.

btw, from the little bit I've read about ssd's and their short lifetime, they don't seem to be ready for prime time at any price. I give them 1-2 years.
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Theres the answer i agree with, i dont think being an early adopter with SSDs is a good idea.
IMO You're better off taking advantage of the current low mechanical hard drive pricing, and wait for SSDs to mature.

 
Originally posted by: Rick James
Wow look at all the SSD hate.
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Nobody "hates" SSDs.

For the "good" SSDs, few can or want to afford them.

For the "affordable" SSDs, it isn't a matter of hating them, but of hating their lack of performance over time.

There will come a time when people will love SSDs and everyone who would otherwise buy a SAS or Raptor drive will buy an SSD. When will that happen? When SSDs go farther down in price so that they are affordable on a cost/capacity basis compared to top end HDDs, when they don't have stuttering problems, when their performance doesn't degrade over time, when their write performance doesn't lag so far behind read performance and when they can be tossed in a normal system without having to do all kinds of tweaks.
 
Originally posted by: MTDEW
Theres the answer i agree with, i dont think being an early adopter is a good idea.
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Fixed 🙂

Being an early adopter is really a double edged sword...

As zap said, nobody hates SSDs, we are simply aware of their limitations... If I HAD the money I'd buy 2 intel X25-E (NOT M) units and put them in RAID0... I don't. I don't even have the money for single velociraptor. But if I did i'd take it over an underperforming SSD. The technology has a lot of promise and it WILL dominate the market. But the cheap ones are simply not as good as desktop drives yet, and only really compete in the laptop market (where smaller form factor and 4200rpm drives live)
 
Someone here recently made the comparison between this early phase of SSD adoption and that of the early days of LCD's.

If you recall there was a lengthy love/hate with early LCD's as the prices were high (so the lower power-consumption was hyped instead) but the quality was really crappy compared to mid-to-top end CRT's at the time and the CRT's were cheaper per viewing area too.

Nowadays most don't really consider CRT an alternative anymore, they do still have their niche applications though.
 
I was an early adopter of syquest drives in early 90s. They seemed like such a good idea...

Luckily, I learned and didn't get sucked into the iomega stuff.

I'm not suggesting that ssd's won't make it but I have enough history to realize that not all technologies pan out.
 
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