What's the best 19" CRT for around ~200

Cheesetogo

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So far I've looked at the SAMSUNG 997DF-T/T and the ViewSonic G90FB, both of which look pretty good. What would be the best choice between the two, and what other monitors would you recommend. Also, are there any that would be able to do 1600x1200 at a higher refresh rate?
 

xtknight

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I asked this a couple days back and decided to actually wait for surface-conduction emitter displays to come out. Not only will they be thinner, but with better color and no deflection coil radiation. Response time will be equal to CRTs. The SED really is just a million/billion/however many pixels worth of CRTs. Just something to think about...
 

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Originally posted by: xtknight
I asked this a couple days back and decided to actually wait for surface-conduction emitter displays to come out. Not only will they be thinner, but with better color and no deflection coil radiation. Response time will be equal to CRTs. The SED really is just a million/billion/however many pixels worth of CRTs. Just something to think about...


Unfortunatly, I'm currently using a 13" veiwable crt that maxes out at 1024x768, and is old and blurry. I don't really want to wait for these things to come out, and then see their massive retail price. I'm not going to wait longer than the end of the summer to buy a monitor. Plus, I'm also buying crt because of cheapness, as I don't want to spend $400+ on a 20" lcd right now.
 

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Originally posted by: Painman
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Thanks for the link! I've been looking for that site for a while now, but I had forgotten the name. But now which one? I suppose this would include the 22" ones now as well.
 

Painman

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Yeah, you can go huge if you want. I can't really recommend anything specific to you, I haven't purchased a monitor since 1999. But that one was a 19" Samsung and it's still on my desktop :)
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
Originally posted by: xtknight
I asked this a couple days back and decided to actually wait for surface-conduction emitter displays to come out. Not only will they be thinner, but with better color and no deflection coil radiation. Response time will be equal to CRTs. The SED really is just a million/billion/however many pixels worth of CRTs. Just something to think about...


Unfortunatly, I'm currently using a 13" veiwable crt that maxes out at 1024x768, and is old and blurry. I don't really want to wait for these things to come out, and then see their massive retail price. I'm not going to wait longer than the end of the summer to buy a monitor. Plus, I'm also buying crt because of cheapness, as I don't want to spend $400+ on a 20" lcd right now.

Can't blame you then...how could you live with that thing for THIS long?! Somewhere I heard SEDs are supposed to be reasonably cheap (probably cheaper than LCDs).

Edit: jesus I can't type for crap today.
 

fierydemise

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the 997DF is good the only problem is the low refrest rate at 1600x1200 (75hz) but if your only going to use that resolution for gaming it shouldn't matter (in games flicker is much less noticable)
 

Cheesetogo

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Originally posted by: fierydemise
the 997DF is good the only problem is the low refrest rate at 1600x1200 (75hz) but if your only going to use that resolution for gaming it shouldn't matter (in games flicker is much less noticable)

Most likely I'll want that for desktop resoulution as well, so what 19" monitors offer higher refresh rates than 75hz at 1600x1200?

Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
Originally posted by: xtknight
I asked this a couple days back and decided to actually wait for surface-conduction emitter displays to come out. Not only will they be thinner, but with better color and no deflection coil radiation. Response time will be equal to CRTs. The SED really is just a million/billion/however many pixels worth of CRTs. Just something to think about...


Unfortunatly, I'm currently using a 13" veiwable crt that maxes out at 1024x768, and is old and blurry. I don't really want to wait for these things to come out, and then see their massive retail price. I'm not going to wait longer than the end of the summer to buy a monitor. Plus, I'm also buying crt because of cheapness, as I don't want to spend $400+ on a 20" lcd right now.

Can't blame you then...how could you live with that thing for THIS long?! Somewhere I heard SEDs are supposed to be reasonably cheap (probably cheaper than LCDs).

Edit: jesus I can't type for crap today.

Believe it or not, I've been using it for about 7 years, and it was bad when I got it. I had a 19" lcd for about 3/4 of a year, but then I sold it because of ghosting, so I had to go back to the 13". I really need a new monitor.
 

fierydemise

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You won't find any 19" moniter that can do anymore then 75hz at 1600x1200 (atleast any new moniter) the NEC FE991 was one of the best 19" moniters out there (I'm currently using one right now) however it isn't produced anymore, and since they are good you find many refurbished either. Right now your best bet is that samsung or something from azatek
 

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Originally posted by: Painman
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Are they refurbs? It says: "Condition: Grade-A. Excellent cosmetic and working condition" Sounds like a refurb?

"Warranty: 6 Month Free Exchange "

Sounds good to me. However, if you bought a refurb and it didn't work or work too good, I'd hate to pay for return shipping on an 70lb monitor.
 

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I just bought the Samsung 997 DF. It gets a great picture quality. My sole complaint is the brightness is very high, even with the brightness control turned nearly all the way down. During games it's not bad, but when you're browsing the internet it is noticable. It will probably be rectified if I play with the gamma settings through the graphics card. For under $200 it is a great deal (got it at Best Buy who even undersold Newegg).
 

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Dells 19in CRT is fantastic quality, assuming they do the same model avail in the US then i suggest u find out how much Dell want for it.....no complaints at all...

 
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One of my clients recently purchased four of the Samsung 997DF-T/T monitors you mentioned. Their geometry isn't the best I've seen in a CRT (can't get the edges of the screen to look quite straight), but their picture quality is very good. They're being used for spreadsheets/word processing/programming rather than gaming or graphics, and their 0.20 mm dot pitch does a great job of displaying sharp text. I haven't played any games or done any graphics editing on them, so I don't have an opinion of their color fidelity. So, I consider the 997DF a very good value at ~$200.

My client purchased these monitors because of positive experiences with the 17" Samsung 753DF, which was Samsung's corresponding 17" model a few years ago. The 793DF, the current 17" model, is very cheaply made--the decline is appalling. The 19" 997DF isn't bad in terms of build quality, but because of the decline in 753DF->793DF, I'm pessimistic about the construction of upcoming Samsung CRTs. I guess the CRT market will virtually disappear within a couple of years anyway, so it'll scarcely matter.
 

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How much better is 85hz going to be over 85hz? I'm using 75hz on the monitor I have right now, and it's not too bad, but how much better is 85hz? If it's not going to make much of a difference, I think I'll go with the samsung as it's a bit cheaper and brand new.
 

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Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
How much better is 85hz going to be over 85hz? I'm using 75hz on the monitor I have right now, and it's not too bad, but how much better is 85hz? If it's not going to make much of a difference, I think I'll go with the samsung as it's a bit cheaper and brand new.

Depending on the sensetivity of your eyes some can see flicker at 75Hz some can't, if you can use 75Hz currently then 75hz will be fine on a new moniter.
 

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Originally posted by: fierydemise
Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
How much better is 85hz going to be over 85hz? I'm using 75hz on the monitor I have right now, and it's not too bad, but how much better is 85hz? If it's not going to make much of a difference, I think I'll go with the samsung as it's a bit cheaper and brand new.

Depending on the sensetivity of your eyes some can see flicker at 75Hz some can't, if you can use 75Hz currently then 75hz will be fine on a new moniter.

Thanks for the advice. I think I'll buy that monitor then, unless anyone else has any more suggestions on which monitor.
 

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I've got a Samsung 997DF, and while I love it, I also have to say that the geometry out of the box is horrible. Even after spending an hour adjusting it, I still can't get one edge to look perfectly straight. Other than that, the picture quality is excellent.
 

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Cornerstone p1460 does 1600x1200 @ 85hz and I LOVE it much better than 75hz. At 85hz my monitor image is incredibly stable and most importantly EASY on the Eyes!
 

fierydemise

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Originally posted by: dejacky
Cornerstone p1460 does 1600x1200 @ 85hz and I LOVE it much better than 75hz. At 85hz my monitor image is incredibly stable and most importantly EASY on the Eyes!

and how much does that moniter cost?
 

Cheesetogo

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Originally posted by: dejacky
Cornerstone p1460 does 1600x1200 @ 85hz and I LOVE it much better than 75hz. At 85hz my monitor image is incredibly stable and most importantly EASY on the Eyes!


I can't find that monitor anywhere.