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I dunno it just seems like maybe supporting one's favorite company and getting whatever is in the price/performance range for that company would be a better approach ....
What's so wrong with being a "FANBOY" ???
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Quiksilver
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Their's nothing wrong with being a fanboy, but what is wrong is when some of those fanboys go around spreading FUD about the competitors products in order to get more people to purchase from whatever company their a fanboy of.
DSF
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If that's what you want to do, fine.
Personally, I'd rather buy the best product at the price point I'm looking at regardless who makes it, unless there's some kind of extenuating circumstance. (For example, if I found out that Nvidia makes their GPUs out of innocent little puppies, I'd stop buying Nvidia products.)
I don't think buying something "inferior" for a legitimate reason (e.g. the other guy makes products out of puppies, or is a monopolist, or doesn't give their employees health insurance, etc) is being a fanboy. Being a fanboy is picking products from one company without a reason. Fanboys are irritating, especially when they spread disinformation.
formulav8
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I kinda think its nutty to be a so-called fanny for a certain brand or corp.
Maybe if they actually 'cared' about you or helped you or came to your wedding or something that would be different. Maybe even if they gave you a free cpu or video card or something.
But being a fanny to company (like Intel or AMD or whoever) that could care less about you, only your money is well somewhat dumb. They only have a single interest in you, and that is your MONEY. Remember when Intel charged 600-800 for a mainstream cpu? What about now, when mainstream cpu's are $100? You think they lowered the price because they felt sorry for you? Or just wanted you to like them? Not even close :thumbsdown:
The only obligation any company like Intel, Apple or whatever has is to their STOCK Holders. Just doesn't make any sense why someone would attach themselves or become a fanny or whatever to a coorporation. :thumbsdown:
Just my opinion obviously
Jason
Maybe if they actually 'cared' about you or helped you or came to your wedding or something that would be different. Maybe even if they gave you a free cpu or video card or something.
But being a fanny to company (like Intel or AMD or whoever) that could care less about you, only your money is well somewhat dumb. They only have a single interest in you, and that is your MONEY. Remember when Intel charged 600-800 for a mainstream cpu? What about now, when mainstream cpu's are $100? You think they lowered the price because they felt sorry for you? Or just wanted you to like them? Not even close :thumbsdown:
The only obligation any company like Intel, Apple or whatever has is to their STOCK Holders. Just doesn't make any sense why someone would attach themselves or become a fanny or whatever to a coorporation. :thumbsdown:
Just my opinion obviously
Jason
I don't give a rats ass about Intel nor AMD, all I care for is to be able to buy the best possible hardware that I can push to its limits and gives me the best results. Price Ratio performance? It's a serious joke and nothing more than just marketing hoozah to fool people in buying more and more.
If AMD comes with a processor that destroys Intel's Nehalem in every review, then I will switch. For now, I am sticking with Intel as the best choice for my money. At this very moment for both dual and quadcores.
fanboys need to get a life
If AMD comes with a processor that destroys Intel's Nehalem in every review, then I will switch. For now, I am sticking with Intel as the best choice for my money. At this very moment for both dual and quadcores.
fanboys need to get a life
We should all be thankful there are people like that around (those who buy from a certain company regardless of performance, and keep them alive), so the rest of us can just get the best stuff for the price...
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Saying i prefer AMD out of preference, and because i want to support them.
vs.
AMD will own any C2D out there. And is half the price of the most budget intel build you can buy... blah blah blah.. yada yada yada.
first statement... its okey, its your money, spend it as you please.
Second statement... prepare to get owned.
taltamir
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The thing is... those companies aren't a case of a good caring upstart vs the evil heartless monopoly... Intel, Amd, nvidia... all those companies have done their share of customer abuses. THEY, DO, NOT, CARE!
To be a loyal supporter of a company that will shaft you at any moment when it suits it's interest is silly. At times I will have a preferred supplier, but that would just be because of lesser shafting at the time, not because of some misguided sense of loyalty.
For example, for a time I was an ATI supporter, it was consistantly more bang for your buck. Then I was an nVidia supporter, they had consistently better drivers (unified XP drivers for everything from TNT2 to geforce 7... vs amd dropping the 9xxx series when they were in the X2xxxx series; and also the CCC sucked at first).
But now AMD is making up for their deficiency in hardware by creating superior software to support said hardware (much cheaper)... So now we have a case in which nvidia provides more bang for the buck, and AMD provides better graphics drivers. So I could go with either one, depending on budget.
However in processors AMD is so hopelessly behind right now, that I don't see any reason to buy their CPUs, unless I am building an uber budget computer with a CPU + mobo for less then 100$.
To be a loyal supporter of a company that will shaft you at any moment when it suits it's interest is silly. At times I will have a preferred supplier, but that would just be because of lesser shafting at the time, not because of some misguided sense of loyalty.
For example, for a time I was an ATI supporter, it was consistantly more bang for your buck. Then I was an nVidia supporter, they had consistently better drivers (unified XP drivers for everything from TNT2 to geforce 7... vs amd dropping the 9xxx series when they were in the X2xxxx series; and also the CCC sucked at first).
But now AMD is making up for their deficiency in hardware by creating superior software to support said hardware (much cheaper)... So now we have a case in which nvidia provides more bang for the buck, and AMD provides better graphics drivers. So I could go with either one, depending on budget.
However in processors AMD is so hopelessly behind right now, that I don't see any reason to buy their CPUs, unless I am building an uber budget computer with a CPU + mobo for less then 100$.
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Being a "Fanboy" is fine as long as you keep it to yourself and aren't proselytizing others into your mind-controlled world.
When someone says something is the "best", they should back up their claim with facts as to "why" they are correct in their conclusion.
Video cards for instance.
Card X is "best" because it...
* produces higher FPS in every benchmark
* offer superior image quality over the competition
* runs cooler than other competitors
* draws less power than other cards
* offers more features and settings than the competition
* is physically smaller than it's competitors
* runs quieter than other cards
* is cheaper than the competition
If card X isn't superior on every point, then you can't claim it as being "the best", unless you add a disclaimer stating it's deficiencies.
When someone says something is the "best", they should back up their claim with facts as to "why" they are correct in their conclusion.
Video cards for instance.
Card X is "best" because it...
* produces higher FPS in every benchmark
* offer superior image quality over the competition
* runs cooler than other competitors
* draws less power than other cards
* offers more features and settings than the competition
* is physically smaller than it's competitors
* runs quieter than other cards
* is cheaper than the competition
If card X isn't superior on every point, then you can't claim it as being "the best", unless you add a disclaimer stating it's deficiencies.
Keysplayr
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It's like anything else i guess. Sports fans, car buffs, audio enthusiasts. It's not even worth mentioning that these corporations do not care about anything but our money. "Manchester United!!!!!!!!!" Loves its fans, for their money. Ford and Chevy etc. etc. just want your coin. Onkyo, Pioneer, Kenwood couldn't care less how you are feeling today, just show me da money. Yeah, it goes without saying. I hope nobody "is" surprised by this. hehe.
I agree with the above. Fanboy's are only a problem if they spread FUD, even if they truly believe what they are saying. And worse, they can't be shown facts to disprove their own beliefs. That said, it's ok to be a fanboy, because there are plenty of other level headed people to knock em down a few pegs easily.
I agree with the above. Fanboy's are only a problem if they spread FUD, even if they truly believe what they are saying. And worse, they can't be shown facts to disprove their own beliefs. That said, it's ok to be a fanboy, because there are plenty of other level headed people to knock em down a few pegs easily.
Am I the only one who remembers $400 X3800+ when AMD was the only dual core game in town?
No fandom from this customer. Show me the performance, tell me about the features, and I'll show you the money. If you can't compete, make room for someone who can.
No fandom from this customer. Show me the performance, tell me about the features, and I'll show you the money. If you can't compete, make room for someone who can.
I think you must be the only one who remebmers AMD being the only dual core game in town, since Intel had their dual core P4's out before AMD.
boomhower
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I, like may others have stated, buy the best part for the dollar. If all other things are equal I would buy AMD/ATI. With the performance as lopsided as it is I am not going to suffer because they can't keep up. This was the first Intel system I have built and next month when I upgrade my video card it will be the first nvidea product I have bought. There is just no contest right now unless you are build a low priced budget box.
Ahmen. The worst thing you can do is get emotional in business. Don't get emotional, get your money's worth. They're counting on you not counting. Regarding both AMD and Intel: No company grows and gets big by treating customers like crap, but they're not your friends and it really is all about the money.
I am loyal to getting the best out of slick deals with dell. If you don't get the best of dell, they will screw you - like in the 8800gt deal for $209.
So yeah, the companies just want your money, and you just want the performance... Keysplayer - good points about onkyo, man-U, and GM - the latter 2 are more into real estate & money services than futbol & vehicles.
Onkyo plays runner up to denon & elite audio component manufacturers. I've always been a proponent of bang for the buck purchases. This is not saying that if i had the cash i wouldn't own a QX9650, 2009 Z-71 sierra, and a $10,000 Denon receiver. Amd makes good offerings right now. My favorite is the X2 5000 BE for the multi & low temps. ATI's deal right now is the 3870.
But that doesn't compete with Intel & Nvidia's wolfdale & g92. If everyone buys intel & nvidia, then there will be no more competition til intel starts making enthusiast gpus in 2009.
So yeah, the companies just want your money, and you just want the performance... Keysplayer - good points about onkyo, man-U, and GM - the latter 2 are more into real estate & money services than futbol & vehicles.
Onkyo plays runner up to denon & elite audio component manufacturers. I've always been a proponent of bang for the buck purchases. This is not saying that if i had the cash i wouldn't own a QX9650, 2009 Z-71 sierra, and a $10,000 Denon receiver. Amd makes good offerings right now. My favorite is the X2 5000 BE for the multi & low temps. ATI's deal right now is the 3870.
But that doesn't compete with Intel & Nvidia's wolfdale & g92. If everyone buys intel & nvidia, then there will be no more competition til intel starts making enthusiast gpus in 2009.
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
I think you must be the only one who remebmers AMD being the only dual core game in town, since Intel had their dual core P4's out before AMD.
AMD had theirs out a month before Intel. AMD's dual core Opteron came out on 22 April 2005, Pentium D on May 25, 2005, and AMD X2 on 31 May 2005.
I don't think there's anything wrong with being a "fanboy" at all, if that's what the person wants...All I ever bought until 2 weeks ago were AMD CPU's...Never did I ever even consider buying Intel chips...The only time it crossed my mind was when C2D chips hit, but even then, I didn't budge...It wasn't until the cache hit 6MB that I was willing to make the change...Some of us are just set in our ways sometimes...For me, it was because I trusted AMD chips...I've used them for years & many builds & never once a hiccup...
To use another analogy, let's use a vehicle as an example...I know people who are diehard Toyota, Honda & Chevy "fanboys"...As of today, my dad won't touch it if it doesn't say Toyota on it...I have a few friends who won't touch it if it doesn't say Honda on it...or Chevy...etc...
It really comes down to trust, affordability & simply, what the person wants...IMO, it shouldn't matter what anyone else wants or trusts...It's their perogative to be a "fanboy" & there's nothing wrong with it...It's funny to me how people are so quick & eager to jump into someone else's business to give their opinion on what the other person's doing (not referring to you OP...just speaking in general terms)...
Anyway, there are a lot of people around here who do this & I think it's funny when I see it...If you have an opinion about the company or product, that's fine, but don't take it overboard...People need to spend more time worrying about what they're doing & less time wondering if someone is a "fanboy"...Unless of course, the "fanboy" is taking the conversation (thread) to extremes...Ok, point it out & move on...
Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
I think you must be the only one who remebmers AMD being the only dual core game in town, since Intel had their dual core P4's out before AMD.
AMD had theirs out a month before Intel. AMD's dual core Opteron came out on 22 April 2005, Pentium D on May 25, 2005, and AMD X2 on 31 May 2005.
I don't know about the Opteron, but I meant desktop chips... I know the Pentium D was out before the dual core Athlon 64's. So, the example above, a Athlon64 x2 3800+ wasn't out before the Pentium D dual cores.
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