What's so great about conroe?

[dcr]

Originally posted by: drum
I heard it reduces the number of reposts, so I would look into one if I were you

I like that one...

Anyway, it's either the E6300 or a cheapy 3800 X2 for me, because the s939 motherboards are so mature.

However, the E6300 performance for price based only on chip price, is incredible.

 

[supastar1568]

what if Intel paid all of the review sites good money to say that they could overclock them well, then the ones they send out to the consumer dont overclock at all?

That would be funny, and not necessarily illegal

 

[dcr]

It's not impossible to cherry pick good cores...in fact, I am sure that is what happens now.

Since oc'ing is an out of bounds activity, they will let you gamble and get burned at no expense to anyone but you.

 

[VivienM]

Originally posted by: Heen05
ok i understand speed for speed its more efficient than the amds, but theyre sooooo slow. without ocing is it worth it? i mean, to get one at decent speeds WITHOUT ocing, youd have to pay like 500 dollars.

Clock speed doesn't equal performance. By now people should know that... (Intel marketing learned it the hard way)

For any given X, a Conroe @ X Ghz will spank an AMD @ X Ghz.

 

[Mem]

Bah forget Conroe ,where is my DX10 video card ,I want the power where it is needed most in gaming ie ...GPU not CPU .

 

[River Side]

best thing about Conroe is that it brought AMD X2 prices back to earth.. they were charging $290 for an X2 3800+ .. aren't we all glad Conroe was announced?

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Mem
Bah forget Conroe ,where is my DX10 video card ,I want the power where it is needed most in gaming ie ...GPU not CPU .

With the extra CPU power you can run other CPU intensive programs WHILE gaming. You don't have to let good CPU power go to waste. You also no longer have to do either, or with a powerful enough CPU. Which goes to say, there is no such thing as a CPU TOO powerful. Especially with the great pricing on Conroe processors.

 

[essasin]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Mem
Bah forget Conroe ,where is my DX10 video card ,I want the power where it is needed most in gaming ie ...GPU not CPU .

With the extra CPU power you can run other CPU intensive programs WHILE gaming. You don't have to let good CPU power go to waste. You also no longer have to do either, or with a powerful enough CPU. Which goes to say, there is no such thing as a CPU TOO powerful. Especially with the great pricing on Conroe processors.

Corrent me if I am wrong, but the pricing was announced but not set in stone?

 

[ManBearPig]

Originally posted by: VivienM

Originally posted by: Heen05
ok i understand speed for speed its more efficient than the amds, but theyre sooooo slow. without ocing is it worth it? i mean, to get one at decent speeds WITHOUT ocing, youd have to pay like 500 dollars.

Clock speed doesn't equal performance. By now people should know that... (Intel marketing learned it the hard way)

For any given X, a Conroe @ X Ghz will spank an AMD @ X Ghz.

i understand but at 1.82 ghz a conroe surely would be less than equal to a 4200 x2 @ 2.2 ghz. and those are both 199 dollars.

 

[dakotagts]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn

Originally posted by: Fox5

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
Faster Clock for clock. Less heat.

From what I've read in the Maximum PC issue I received yesterday, heat is almost nil.
Their testing involved some full load dvd encoding using Nero Recode. They had a Zalman 9500 and unplugged the fan. During this dvd encoding the temps only rose 3 degree's C. After the testing, the machine was still used without the Zalman cpu fan plugged in.

Flawed testing, modern cpus have overheating protection that lowers the cpu speed when overheating.

Flawed testing as they should use a real stress test (Prime95 or S&M) to generate the most heat.

Is that Flawed Testing or Realistic Testing. If my fans go out while i encode a DVD would that be a realistic senario?

When is my CPU going to be stressed that much to even run into a realistic situation of that type of Fan failure?

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: essasin

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Mem
Bah forget Conroe ,where is my DX10 video card ,I want the power where it is needed most in gaming ie ...GPU not CPU .

With the extra CPU power you can run other CPU intensive programs WHILE gaming. You don't have to let good CPU power go to waste. You also no longer have to do either, or with a powerful enough CPU. Which goes to say, there is no such thing as a CPU TOO powerful. Especially with the great pricing on Conroe processors.

Corrent me if I am wrong, but the pricing was announced but not set in stone?

They're not set in stone, but ZZF put them on sale a little early and were selling them for about the same price. They've since pulled them, but I expect the Aug 7th official release to be pretty much the same price. If you didn't see the post, the E6600 processor was going for $339. That is a processor on par or faster than a FX62 chip and has monsterous overclocking potenial.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Heen05

Originally posted by: VivienM

Originally posted by: Heen05
ok i understand speed for speed its more efficient than the amds, but theyre sooooo slow. without ocing is it worth it? i mean, to get one at decent speeds WITHOUT ocing, youd have to pay like 500 dollars.

Clock speed doesn't equal performance. By now people should know that... (Intel marketing learned it the hard way)

For any given X, a Conroe @ X Ghz will spank an AMD @ X Ghz.

i understand but at 1.82 ghz a conroe surely would be less than equal to a 4200 x2 @ 2.2 ghz. and those are both 199 dollars.

The E6300 (1.86GHz) Conroe is actually faster. Also note that the E6300 has MUCH more headroom than the 4200+.

If you are into encoding, you'd probably be more interested in this.

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: Heen05

Originally posted by: VivienM

Originally posted by: Heen05
ok i understand speed for speed its more efficient than the amds, but theyre sooooo slow. without ocing is it worth it? i mean, to get one at decent speeds WITHOUT ocing, youd have to pay like 500 dollars.

Clock speed doesn't equal performance. By now people should know that... (Intel marketing learned it the hard way)

For any given X, a Conroe @ X Ghz will spank an AMD @ X Ghz.

i understand but at 1.82 ghz a conroe surely would be less than equal to a 4200 x2 @ 2.2 ghz. and those are both 199 dollars.

On average, the 1.83Ghz E6300 is about the level of a 4400+. It is right inbetween a 4600+ and 4200+ (they average benches from a variety of sources... games, apps, rendering, encoding):

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-shootout_12.html

Moreover, it consumes HALF the power ofa 4200+ at load:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-shootout_11.html

 

[t3h l337 n3wb]

Conroe pwns. At equal clock speed, price, and power consumption levels, Conroe is just FASTER. And that's what matters. It's a huge breakthrough for Intel, since the Netburst chips were crap. So all you fanboys that think that Conroe's architecture isn't that great are just idiots.

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: supastar1568
what if Intel paid all of the review sites good money to say that they could overclock them well, then the ones they send out to the consumer dont overclock at all?

That would be funny, and not necessarily illegal

Too bad thats already proven wrong.

The people at XS have already gotten retail samples and they actually overclock better. Any idiot knows ES chips suck at overclocking (per stepping wise) because they are usually early revisions.

 

[Mem]

With the extra CPU power you can run other CPU intensive programs WHILE gaming. You don't have to let good CPU power go to waste. You also no longer have to do either, or with a powerful enough CPU. Which goes to say, there is no such thing as a CPU TOO powerful. Especially with the great pricing on Conroe processors.

Too bad AMD was there first with the x2 /Opertron CPUs and now great pricing ,do I think Conroe is hyped?...yes I do.I won't deny the fact that performance of Conroes are very good,remember having fastest CPU means jack if you got a crap video card for gaming.

 

[w00t]

well since your an idiotic enough to make this thread there is no use trying to explain it to you

check the benchmarks and use the search function please

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Mem

With the extra CPU power you can run other CPU intensive programs WHILE gaming. You don't have to let good CPU power go to waste. You also no longer have to do either, or with a powerful enough CPU. Which goes to say, there is no such thing as a CPU TOO powerful. Especially with the great pricing on Conroe processors.

Too bad AMD was there first with the x2 /Opertron CPUs and now great pricing ,do I think Conroe is hyped?...yes I do.I won't deny the fact that performance of Conroes are very good,remember having fastest CPU means jack if you got a crap video card for gaming.

Wow, that is amazing, AMD was there first. Well guess what, Conroe is here now and a much better deal than AMD, even with their price cuts. Remember, having a well rounded machine means having a good video card AND a fast processor. I see no reason to get an AMD chip now unless you already have an AMD system and are just looking to upgrade your processor.

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn

Originally posted by: Fox5

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
Faster Clock for clock. Less heat.

From what I've read in the Maximum PC issue I received yesterday, heat is almost nil.
Their testing involved some full load dvd encoding using Nero Recode. They had a Zalman 9500 and unplugged the fan. During this dvd encoding the temps only rose 3 degree's C. After the testing, the machine was still used without the Zalman cpu fan plugged in.

Flawed testing, modern cpus have overheating protection that lowers the cpu speed when overheating.

Flawed testing as they should use a real stress test (Prime95 or S&M) to generate the most heat.

Ahhh.. yes.. because everyone runs Prime95 as a real world app.. :thumbsdown:

 

[Nightmare225]

Originally posted by: Heen05

i understand but at 1.82 ghz a conroe surely would be less than equal to a 4200 x2 @ 2.2 ghz. and those are both 199 dollars.

And now I'm starting to wonder if OP is regretting an AMD X2 purchase.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Mem
Bah forget Conroe ,where is my DX10 video card ,I want the power where it is needed most in gaming ie ...GPU not CPU .

baah . . . who cares about DX10 Cards? . . . there won't be any full DX10 games for 3 years.

And Conroe is the new performance leader . . . i guess that's pretty "great"

 

[ForumMaster]

well, besides being the fastest desktop CPU thus far all while doing it for less money and heat and power, nothing much.

 

[Mem]

baah . . . who cares about DX10 Cards? . . . there won't be any full DX10 games for 3 years.

And Conroe is the new performance leader . . . i guess that's pretty "great"

Each to their own,I can never get excited over the new faster CPUs,however when it comes to new video cards well that is a whole new ballgame ,maybe it's because the CPU speed improvements we have seen over the years is always small/lagging behind video/graphics card industry,remember faster DX9 gaming performance as well we should see in the next generation of DX10 video cards,only time will tell if I'm right .