WHAT'S NEXT FOR LIBERALISM?

[glenn1]

"Mexicans are rapists"
"Let's make a registry of all Muslims in the US"
"Let's ban Muslims from immigrating to the US"

All three are pretty much textbook examples of xenophobia. Don't try to argue that we're all in one database or another or some similar disingenuous bullshit argument, because Obama would have caused you come out in hives if he proposed (e.g.) making a registry of all people in the US who refuse to acknowledge xenophobia.

If Trump's bigotry had been aimed at you, I strongly suspect you would be singing a different song now.

Hillary Clinton had her "super predators that need to be brought to heel" and "basket of deplorables" also. Should we use a different term than xenophobia for her since they're not foreigners she distrusts but rather other groups of Americans she looks at as being akin to another (and way more icky) species?

Either way, both Trump and Clinton repeatedly indulged in "virtue signalling" to their base that the other side was composed of morally questionable people and how their respective reporters were SOOOOOO much better than the other side. Attempting to flatter your side by demonizing the other wasn't a good look for either of them, and neither side really deserves the respect of the other right now.

 

[desura]

I'll just say that I'm pretty sure now that the Obama majorities were a fluke. They resulted from Bush's Iraq War. Without the Iraq War, the D's do not have a winning message. Cultural liberalism is not a winning message.

 

[zinfamous]

Are you going to deny the fact that most of the people who get federal aid are democrats? get the the democrats out of the equation from the red states and it's a whole different picture.

what fact?

please show me this number.

I'm not surprised that you probably don't understand a large percentage of federal aid comes in the form of farm subsidies to fly-over, rural, free-trade/NAFTA loving, staunchly republican farmers.

 

[mikeymikec]

Hillary Clinton had her "super predators that need to be brought to heel" and "basket of deplorables" also. Should we use a different term than xenophobia for her since they're not foreigners she distrusts but rather other groups of Americans she looks at as being akin to another (and way more icky) species?

Either way, both Trump and Clinton repeatedly indulged in "virtue signalling" to their base that the other side was composed of morally questionable people and how their respective reporters were SOOOOOO much better than the other side. Attempting to flatter your side by demonizing the other wasn't a good look for either of them, and neither side really deserves the respect of the other right now.

This is all deflection (and I'm failing to see any relevance to the point I took you up on). If you don't think Trump made xenophobic comments, then make your case.

 

[Jaskalas]

I'll just say that I'm pretty sure now that the Obama majorities were a fluke. They resulted from Bush's Iraq War. Without the Iraq War, the D's do not have a winning message. Cultural liberalism is not a winning message.

You were right to think of Obama, but wrong to call him a fluke.
Young and charismatic. Speaking an inspirational message of a better future.
That style and message should have been continued, but it wasn't.

 

[zinfamous]

I'll just say that I'm pretty sure now that the Obama majorities were a fluke. They resulted from Bush's Iraq War. Without the Iraq War, the D's do not have a winning message. Cultural liberalism is not a winning message.

No, he re-energized the Dem base where it counted, and much like Trump--was the change agent for a stale, directionless party. Obviously Dubya was a big factor in 08--and possibly still '12, but Obama was the disrupter that pre-figured Trump.

Hell, and if Pres Obama didn't ridicule the easily triggered Littlefingers in public so fairly, we likely would never have to be dealing with this little fascist. oh well.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

No, he re-energized the Dem base where it counted, and much like Trump--was the change agent for a stale, directionless party. Obviously Dubya was a big factor in 08--and possibly still '12, but Obama was the disrupter that pre-figured Trump.

Hell, and if Pres Obama didn't ridicule the easily triggered Littlefingers in public so fairly, we likely would never have to be dealing with this little fascist. oh well.

well then, I do think this is incredibly apt for once

 

[OutHouse]

Does it bother others that the progressive libtards scoff at the Federalist and Anti-federalist papers when referenced in an argument to defend the Constitution but they believe they are the Holy Grail since they think they can get their way by using them?

 

[Victorian Gray]

The political correctness cancer continues to spread and the libs / SJW's are fully invested in the battle. Silencing any opposition, making sure nobody deviates from leftist approved thought, shouting down anyone who might disagree etc.

How did you manage to get this posted? God bless the underground!

 

[Victorian Gray]

lol, have you fucking listened to, read, and watched the shit coming from your president-elect liar-in chief?

Are you yet upset with yourself that he has broken every single promise to "drain the swamp"?

How many months before you have the balls to finally admit to yourself that you were wrong about every single thing that Angry Orange Littlefingers promised to be?

My money is on 'never gonna happen'.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

I'm kind of thinking Jonestown the way they keep getting crazier and crazier.

lol. Still no balls I see.

Let us know when they finally drop.

What's next for liberals? I'm thinking Jonestown.

 

[Kazukian]

I'm kind of thinking Jonestown the way they keep getting crazier and crazier.
What's next for liberals? I'm thinking Jonestown.

It's really looking that way, Im thinking a lot of them have never lost an election.

 

[desura]

No, he re-energized the Dem base where it counted, and much like Trump--was the change agent for a stale, directionless party. Obviously Dubya was a big factor in 08--and possibly still '12, but Obama was the disrupter that pre-figured Trump.

Hell, and if Pres Obama didn't ridicule the easily triggered Littlefingers in public so fairly, we likely would never have to be dealing with this little fascist. oh well.

Disagree. Democrats have lost 1000 seats since Obama was in office. Successful presidents leave behind legislative majorities...Obama completely failed there.

The Democrats were not a stale directionless party in those days...they were brimming with energy having won seats due to anti-war sentiment. Their problem was that they have since mistook that anti-war energy as giving them a mandate on social issues like transgender bathrooms or gay marriage.

It seems to me that Obama lacked good advice or experience with dealing with a legislature...because he had never been governor.

 

[Sunburn74]

Income inequality will be the next big battle I think.

 

[glenn1]

This is all deflection (and I'm failing to see any relevance to the point I took you up on). If you don't think Trump made xenophobic comments, then make your case.

I think they were more a factor of him being an equal opportunity asshole to pretty much anyone possible than pure xenophobia per se. Trump reminds me somewhat of Full Metal Jacket where Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann says "I am hard but I am fair. There is no racial bigotry here. I do not look down on n**ers, k**es, w**s or gr**sers. Here you are all equally worthless."

I will say this however, if your side is going to conflate xenophobia with any effort to crack down more on illegal immigration then bring on th 'xenophobia." As I've said here repeatedly, the way we treat 'illegal immigrants" here is shameful and exploitative to an extreme worse than anything since the Jim Crow days. Either support open borders or deport them all, don't work them in the grey market for $2/hour threatening them with calling ICE the entire time.

 

[sandorski]

If President Trump is similar to Donald Trump, I suspect it won't take much to win back the Presidency.

 

[Amused]

The political correctness cancer continues to spread and the libs / SJW's are fully invested in the battle. Silencing any opposition, making sure nobody deviates from leftist approved thought, shouting down anyone who might disagree etc.

Let me translate your dog whistles for you:

The treating people with respect cancer continues to spread and the libs / SJW's are fully invested in the battle. Exposing bigots, racists and misogynists, making sure nobody comes to see disrespecting others as the norm, exposing and educating anyone who might think that treating others disrespectfully is without social consequence, etc.

 

[Zaap]

Liberal "exposing" and "social consequence" in reality.

 

[Blue_Max]

Sounds like the op is scared of many many things.

Nothing to contribute? Attack!

At least we can continue to count on you guys for that in 2017! <3

 

[Blue_Max]

Accept science instead of burying it...

Accept science instead of burying it...

This from the people who don't even accept basic human biology? Two genders and males/females have certain differences.
You guys have truly gone off the deep end when it comes to what you believe in, and it keep changing all the time as you constantly strive for PR and Damage Control.

These guys are Marxists, not "liberals". The very foundation of liberalism is based around freedoms which these guys regularly spit on in their quest for control and power. They want to be the ones dictating all the rules. Which skin colours are allowed to exist, which religions are allowed to exist, which gender should be given preferential treatment, who gets punished for not falling in line with the Great Collective...

...like the kid getting kicked out of college for releasing video of his teacher forcing "progressive" political dogma down her students' throats. (Merely one example of so, so many...)

 

[brycejones]

Nothing to contribute? Attack!

Troll thread is troll thread

 

[Scooby Doo]

Fix the mess Trumps going to leave behind??

 

[Jhhnn]

I'll just say that I'm pretty sure now that the Obama majorities were a fluke. They resulted from Bush's Iraq War. Without the Iraq War, the D's do not have a winning message. Cultural liberalism is not a winning message.

It wasn't about the war so much as the economy. It was clear that Repubs had run us onto the rocks.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Let me translate your dog whistles for you:

The treating people with respect cancer continues to spread and the libs / SJW's are fully invested in the battle. Exposing bigots, racists and misogynists, making sure nobody comes to see disrespecting others as the norm, exposing and educating anyone who might think that treating others disrespectfully is without social consequence, etc.

Well thank the libs/SJW's for getting Trump elected this time around.

 

[desura]

It wasn't about the war so much as the economy. It was clear that Repubs had run us onto the rocks.

Haaaa no. You'd think 2008 would be enough proof of a real recession. Prior to that, it was all peanuts.