whats is the future of 754

[fakebun]

what is the future of socket 754? is it gonna die soon?

what mobo goes well with 3700+ 939 retail San Diego

 

[andrewbabcock]

A DFI Lanparty SLI-DR goes great with it. And yes, 754 is dead.

 

[Aenslead]

When, oh, when will we see another Socket A everlasting plataform?

 

[thecoolnessrune]

I dont get it, with the advent of M2, isn't socket 939 just as dead as socket 754???

 

[secretanchitman]

i think socket 939 will last much, if not a bit longer than 754.

 

[forumposter32]

Originally posted by: andrewbabcock
A DFI Lanparty SLI-DR goes great with it. And yes, 754 is dead.

Well, that's a surprise to me. I'm often looking at retail web sites and checking out prices. A short while after it was announced that AMD stopped making socket A chips, all kinds of socket 754 Semprons started appearing out of the blue.

No, the socket 754 platform is not dead yet. But that's because it's the "value" platform for AMD. Once socket M2 comes out, I bet you we will see all kinds of new, cheap Semprons come out for socket 939.

They have to do that in order to compete with the Intel Celerons.

 

[fakebun]

so if i plan to buy A64 3700+....should i buy 754 or 939 or wait until next year when M2 comes out...

 

[Mogadon]

Originally posted by: fakebun
so if i plan to buy A64 3700+....should i buy 754 or 939 or wait until next year when M2 comes out...

It really depends on what you have now.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

Ppl who like to have a low power and even passively cooled rig (for office/ internet use or as HTPC) mite like the idea of the Turion + Socket754 combination

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: fakebun
so if i plan to buy A64 3700+....should i buy 754 or 939 or wait until next year when M2 comes out...

A 754 3700+ will be a good deal cheaper than a 939 3700+, plus the extra 200mhz will negate the extra bandwidth that dual channel provides.

Now, if you plan on doing some hefty overclocking, then I'd go 939.

 

[DasFox]

Dead 939 is the standard.

 

[AkumaX]

Well, at least w/ S939 you can have dual core (that should last you a yr or 2)

 

[DrMrLordX]

Originally posted by: fakebun
so if i plan to buy A64 3700+....should i buy 754 or 939 or wait until next year when M2 comes out...

Don't get a 3700+, get s939 and an Opteron 144 or 146, and OC it to the skies. Looks like M2 may be a poor overclocking platform.

You might also want to wait for DFI's expert board, or whatever it is

 

[sandorski]

Socket 754 died awhile ago, but if you are planning to wait a few years before the next upgrade it'll likely do quite well. We might hit the 6000+ level in 2 years or so(total conjecture), a 3700+ will still likely make the minimum specs of new games then. Where the difficulty lies is on the video side, by then I doubt any AGP cards will be released.

There's no gaurantee though, but if you consider that Dual Core makes up everything above 4000+ on the Socket 939 side and that the 3700+ is as fast(approx) as the top X2 (4800) in single threaded apps, the 3700+ is still near the top of performance available. Until Multi-threaded(using multiple cores) games come out the 3700+ will be fine for gaming.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Socket 754 died awhile ago, but if you are planning to wait a few years before the next upgrade it'll likely do quite well. We might hit the 6000+ level in 2 years or so(total conjecture), a 3700+ will still likely make the minimum specs of new games then. Where the difficulty lies is on the video side, by then I doubt any AGP cards will be released.

There are a good number of skt754 boards with 1 PCIe x16 slot now.

 

[Kein]

It prolly won't gonna die soon but it won't last for too long either. There're already sempron's 939 in the way: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/sempron-3000.html.

 

[Nyati13]

Originally posted by: Aenslead
When, oh, when will we see another Socket A everlasting plataform?

Socket A wasn't nearly as everlasting as it looks on first glance. The Socket first came on with the DDR200 FSB, moved to the DDR333 bus and then finally went to a DDR400 bus. This is technically 3 sockets, even though the physical plastic thing stayed the same.


* And I forget the DDR266 FSB . So it's 4 'different' sockets, not just 1. *

 

[dnuggett]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Socket 754 died awhile ago, but if you are planning to wait a few years before the next upgrade it'll likely do quite well. We might hit the 6000+ level in 2 years or so(total conjecture), a 3700+ will still likely make the minimum specs of new games then. Where the difficulty lies is on the video side, by then I doubt any AGP cards will be released.

There's no gaurantee though, but if you consider that Dual Core makes up everything above 4000+ on the Socket 939 side and that the 3700+ is as fast(approx) as the top X2 (4800) in single threaded apps, the 3700+ is still near the top of performance available. Until Multi-threaded(using multiple cores) games come out the 3700+ will be fine for gaming.

No, 754 did not die awhile ago. With the Turion and PCIe it's alive and well. For the time being it's a good solution, it's just that most people can't seem to figure that out. Only prob is no dual channel.

 

[Ike0069]

I'd go S939. Then when you need to upgrade, the X2's will be at a much lower price thatn they are now, and will offer a big step in performance.
With S754, the fastest chip (3700+) has already been produced. There would be no way to upgrade without going to a new socket.
And if you then decided to SM2, you'll have to buy new RAM also as it will utilize DDR2.

 

[n7]

s754 is dead.
s939 is soon dead.

The one good thing about s939 is that it supports pretty much everything important aside from DDR2, which really isn't important for now anyway.

Considering that M2 will be utilizing a very high HTT & low multiplier for all the CPUs, i'm guessing OCing will be more limited.
Frankly, i'd recommend not waiting for M2, since the improvements aren't going to that huge IMO.
Not for a while anyway.

 

[fakebun]

well im not looking for cutting-edge things...i just wanna upgrade my 4 year old computer to something usable and at least somewhat 3 years of futureproof

but all X2 are 939 right? so if i buy 939 now, i can upgrade to X2 when it gets cheaper? If i buy 754, i can't upgrade to X2 right?

 

[dnuggett]

Originally posted by: fakebun
well im not looking for cutting-edge things...i just wanna upgrade my 4 year old computer to something usable and at least somewhat 3 years of futureproof

but all X2 are 939 right? so if i buy 939 now, i can upgrade to X2 when it gets cheaper? If i buy 754, i can't upgrade to X2 right?

Right.

 

[Aenslead]

Originally posted by: Nyati13

Originally posted by: Aenslead
When, oh, when will we see another Socket A everlasting plataform?

Socket A wasn't nearly as everlasting as it looks on first glance. The Socket first came on with the DDR200 FSB, moved to the DDR333 bus and then finally went to a DDR400 bus. This is technically 3 sockets, even though the physical plastic thing stayed the same.


* And I forget the DDR266 FSB . So it's 4 'different' sockets, not just 1. *

Maybe so... but you could still put a Duron 600Mhz on an nForce 2 Ultra motherboard. You COULD just upgrade the motherboard. Now you need to make both upgrades.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: Aenslead

Originally posted by: Nyati13

Originally posted by: Aenslead
When, oh, when will we see another Socket A everlasting plataform?

Socket A wasn't nearly as everlasting as it looks on first glance. The Socket first came on with the DDR200 FSB, moved to the DDR333 bus and then finally went to a DDR400 bus. This is technically 3 sockets, even though the physical plastic thing stayed the same.


* And I forget the DDR266 FSB . So it's 4 'different' sockets, not just 1. *

Maybe so... but you could still put a Duron 600Mhz on an nForce 2 Ultra motherboard. You COULD just upgrade the motherboard. Now you need to make both upgrades.

Why would you want to do that though?

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: fakebun
well im not looking for cutting-edge things...i just wanna upgrade my 4 year old computer to something usable and at least somewhat 3 years of futureproof

If it's gonna take you 3 years to upgrade again, then forget about a "futureproof" motherboard. Just get a new CPU and motherboard combo in 3 years.

"The rumors of my demise are greatly exaggerated" - Samuel Clemins AKA Mark Twain

Has AMD stated an EOL for socket 754? Until you can purchase socket 939 CPU and motherboard combos from Fry's for $69, socket 754 is not dead yet.