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KhoiFather

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Get some EiBach Prokit Springs and you'll be set. If you wanna go further, get Tokico Adjustable Coilovers so you can adjust the height to your choice.
 

CTrain

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Originally posted by: CombatChuk
Originally posted by: CTrain
Originally posted by: CombatChuk
Originally posted by: CTrain
Originally posted by: CombatChuk
Even though many shocks can handle a 1" height, it's a good idea to upgrade them. With the extra load, they can overheat and they become ineffective. But to be honest, there really isn't a point to lower it that much.

Yes there is a point to lowering a car even if its only 1".
A car looks so much better if you don't have a gap between the tires and fender.
Pretty much a consensus that cars look much better when you don't have that big ole gap.

Don't bother wasting money on new shocks.
Your car is new, ride the original shocks until the wear out.
Good shocks are like $250-$300.......thats a big waste of money since your shocks are fairly new.

So go through all this trouble and money to lower a car to make it look cooler?

What? about $300 to make the car look better ??? thats alot ???
How about people spending $1000+ for wheels to make the car look better ??
How about spending $150 to get a car tinted to make it look better ??
Why do people spend money at all on cars ???

Your question is dumb man.
Alot of people based on their car buying decision on looks.
I don't care how good a car is, if I think its ugly, I won't even consider it.
The Neon SRT is a perfect example.

YES, looks is very important as a car owner...unless you own a POS, than it doesn't matter

Not only with what I mentioned, no dealer would want to touch that car w/warranty work if it has been lowered.

EDIT: The SRT Neon still has a full warranty

Your answer makes me laugh....
Geezz...lets see here, something is wrong with my car.
I'll put the original springs back before bringing it to the dealership.
Do you realize that exchanging springs(especially the mild drop hes looking for) is really safe ?
Your worries are unwarranted.
 

CTrain

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Originally posted by: KhoiFather
Get some EiBach Prokit Springs and you'll be set. If you wanna go further, get Tokico Adjustable Coilovers so you can adjust the height to your choice.

Coilovers are waaayyyyy too expensive.
 

CTrain

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Originally posted by: Carbonadium4
just be careful !!! lot of people have died from this.. it is very dangerous..

Ya, get a compressor and know what you're doing if you want to tackle the job yourself.
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: CTrain
Originally posted by: KhoiFather
Get some EiBach Prokit Springs and you'll be set. If you wanna go further, get Tokico Adjustable Coilovers so you can adjust the height to your choice.

Coilovers are waaayyyyy too expensive.

Nah. The conversion is expensive. The shocks and springs are only about a grand.
 
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Originally posted by: theNEOone
....say 0.5-1" on a mazda 6


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i dont thinks its worth the time and money for a .5 drop

my friend dropped his camry and the springs alone cost something like $200
 

JulesMaximus

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no dealer would want to touch that car w/warranty work if it has been lowered.

This is total BS. The only thing they wouldn't warranty is if you have unusual tire wear or some other issue they can directly relate to the suspension.
 

CTrain

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Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: theNEOone
....say 0.5-1" on a mazda 6


=|

i dont thinks its worth the time and money for a .5 drop

my friend dropped his camry and the springs alone cost something like $200

I don't think anyone makes springs that will give just a .5" drop. More like 1" to 1.5" is a mild drop.

Lowering a camry doesn't sound very enticing.
He has a Mazda 6 and they are very sporty looking. Dropping it woulde definately enhance the look.
 

Carbonadium4

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Depends on where you live, originally i wanted .5 front .75 rear, HR Spring kit

then I went for 1.25/1.5 drop which looks cool

I live in nyc.. i hit so many pot holes and it makes me wanna do the .5 drop instead.. bottom of my bumper is like scratched to hell but you can see it so.. :)
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: CombatChuk
Originally posted by: CTrain
Originally posted by: CombatChuk
Originally posted by: CTrain
Originally posted by: CombatChuk
Even though many shocks can handle a 1" height, it's a good idea to upgrade them. With the extra load, they can overheat and they become ineffective. But to be honest, there really isn't a point to lower it that much.

Yes there is a point to lowering a car even if its only 1".
A car looks so much better if you don't have a gap between the tires and fender.
Pretty much a consensus that cars look much better when you don't have that big ole gap.

Don't bother wasting money on new shocks.
Your car is new, ride the original shocks until the wear out.
Good shocks are like $250-$300.......thats a big waste of money since your shocks are fairly new.

So go through all this trouble and money to lower a car to make it look cooler?

What? about $300 to make the car look better ??? thats alot ???
How about people spending $1000+ for wheels to make the car look better ??
How about spending $150 to get a car tinted to make it look better ??
Why do people spend money at all on cars ???

Your question is dumb man.
Alot of people based on their car buying decision on looks.
I don't care how good a car is, if I think its ugly, I won't even consider it.
The Neon SRT is a perfect example.

YES, looks is very important as a car owner...unless you own a POS, than it doesn't matter

Not only with what I mentioned, no dealer would want to touch that car w/warranty work if it has been lowered.

EDIT: The SRT Neon still has a full warranty


Please read the Magnusson-Moss Act. The dealer MUST warranty a car, even with modifications, unless they can prove that the mod caused the issue. That is almost impossible to do. The onyl thing that would no longer be warrantied would be shocks, maybe the bushings.
 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: CTrain
Originally posted by: KhoiFather
Get some EiBach Prokit Springs and you'll be set. If you wanna go further, get Tokico Adjustable Coilovers so you can adjust the height to your choice.

Coilovers are waaayyyyy too expensive.

Actually, the Tokico kit is pretty affordable; I believe less then $800. Start looking to stuff like Tein, Tanabe and APEX-i and now we're talking expensive.

If you're just interested in looks, then get some sport springs and call it a day. Tein had a set that lowers about 1.2 If you're looking for some better handling get something like a Tokico kit. For about $550 you get sport springs and adjustable damping shocks. I've got one of these on my car and its awesome.
 

phantom309

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Originally posted by: CombatChuk
Originally posted by: CTrain
Originally posted by: CombatChuk
Even though many shocks can handle a 1" height, it's a good idea to upgrade them. With the extra load, they can overheat and they become ineffective. But to be honest, there really isn't a point to lower it that much.

Yes there is a point to lowering a car even if its only 1".
A car looks so much better if you don't have a gap between the tires and fender.
Pretty much a consensus that cars look much better when you don't have that big ole gap.

Don't bother wasting money on new shocks.
Your car is new, ride the original shocks until the wear out.
Good shocks are like $250-$300.......thats a big waste of money since your shocks are fairly new.

So go through all this trouble and money to lower a car to make it look cooler?

I dropped my WRX wagon 1" and it drastically improved the handling - though the stock shocks really are too wimpy for the Eibachs I installed, regardless what the factory says. Gonna get the adjustable Konis and be done with it.
 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
no dealer would want to touch that car w/warranty work if it has been lowered.

This is total BS. The only thing they wouldn't warranty is if you have unusual tire wear or some other issue they can directly relate to the suspension.

my dealership couldn't care less.
i've never once been asked about my springs at my dealer, and i even got the control arm bushings replaced under warranty when i had bew brakes being put on.
 

TechnoKid

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The H&amp;R Cup Kit are nice. Basically H&amp;R sport springs with matched Koni sport shocks (and by matched I mean that the shocks are valved to the spring's spring rate). The Koni sport shocks alone go for like $525+ for a set, and the springs are another ~$150.

If you want really expensive shocks (and the best out there), go with Moton, or Penske, they cost anywhere from $500 to $1000+ per shock.

You should check if mazdaspeed or racingbeat makes anything for your car, since they are the factory tuners for mazda.

If you are just going for looks, than get springs. However, If you want better handling, then get some new shocks along with the springs. Shorter springs often have higher spring rates; the OEM shocks won't be able to keep up with the increased spring rate, will wear out faster, and not give you the best handling (shorter springs on stock shocks may give you a bouncy ride, indicating that the shocks don't offer enough dampening for the spirng rate) If you don't want adjustable shocks, then I suggest Bilstein HD shocks if they make them for your car. For a matched spring and shock set, get the H&amp;R CupKit.

I don't reccomend the Eibach ProKit all too much because I have read of too many people experincing spring sag with them. The SCCA BMW Speedvision team uses H&amp;R springs because they are the only ones they've tested that have not sagged or changed springs rates throughout their racing season.

Make sure you get a proper alignment after you get them installed.
 

Vic

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Eibach Pro-Kit is best for a mild drop with much-better-than-stock handling and a smooth ride with the stock struts. Should work great. Cost will be about $200 for the springs, $200 for install (if you don't want to do that yourself), and about $70 for the 4-wheel alignment about a week after the spring install (you want to wait for the springs to settle before alignment).

Originally posted by: TechnoKid
I don't reccomend the Eibach ProKit all too much because I have read of too many people experincing spring sag with them.
Proof or I call bullsh!t. I ran the Pro-Kit in my old Integra GSR for 5 years and 80k miles with no sag. I ran them in my 03 WRX for almost a year and 10k miles before I switched them out for something more aggressive. Still no sag. Usually the biggest complaints that I have found with the Eibachs is that people think they didn't drop as much as advertised and/or were too soft (but then you also get people who think the opposite and felt the drop was too low or too hard, such is always the case when you're the biggest and sell to everybody, especially to the idiot crowd).