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Whats higher 5 of a kind or a straight flush??

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of course there has to be wild cards
just a straight flush and not a royal flush
i think 5 of a kind is higher
what do you think??
 
There is no "thinking" involved with this.

Poker Hand Ranking with Wild Cards
A wild card is a particular card, often a joker, which can be used to substitute for any card the holder wishes, even a duplicate of a card the holder already has. Several cards may be designated as wild - for example all the twos. This must be agreed in advance.

The hand ranking is the same as described above, except that it is now possible to have five of a kind - five cards of the same rank - in which of course at least one will be represented by a wild card. Five of a kind is the highest combination, beating a Royal Flush.
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Originally posted by: SampSon
There is no "thinking" involved with this.
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I agree, how is this even an issue? I could see *maybe* if it 5 of a kind vs. royal flush, but I'm not really sure I see what the problem is.
 
Voting on which is higher is like voting if 3 is a larger number than 5. There's no voting in this and no opinion, 5 of a kind beats a straight flush, period. Of course only women play games with wild cards, so the fact that you want to know is somewhat disturbing.
 
Originally posted by: fivespeed5
real men play texas hold'em, no wild cards so this is never an issue.
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ya we play tat but every once in awhile we mixed in a game like Follow the Queen(which has wild cards) or Omaha/Chicago Hi/Lo

i brought it up cause other ppl i play with says straight flush is higher than 5 of a kind
and i of course said it wasnt 🙂
 
The odds of getting 5 of a kind is (12/52)(11/52)(10/52)(9/52)=0.415952

The odds of getting a straight flush (flush of the same suit) is (2/52)^4 assuming the first card picked is not lower than 5 or higher than a 10. If it is, the odds will be even less.
 
Originally posted by: her209
The odds of getting 5 of a kind is (12/52)(11/52)(10/52)(9/52)=0.415952

The odds of getting a straight flush (flush of the same suit) is (2/52)^4 assuming the first card picked is not lower than 5 or higher than a 10. If it is, the odds will be even less.
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That's not right.
 
Originally posted by: Shooters
Originally posted by: her209
The odds of getting 5 of a kind is (12/52)(11/52)(10/52)(9/52)=0.415952

The odds of getting a straight flush (flush of the same suit) is (2/52)^4 assuming the first card picked is not lower than 5 or higher than a 10. If it is, the odds will be even less.
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That's not right.
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You are right... it should be

(12/51)(11/50)(10/49)(9/48)

and

(2/51)(2/50)(2/49)(2/48)
 
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Shooters
Originally posted by: her209
The odds of getting 5 of a kind is (12/52)(11/52)(10/52)(9/52)=0.415952

The odds of getting a straight flush (flush of the same suit) is (2/52)^4 assuming the first card picked is not lower than 5 or higher than a 10. If it is, the odds will be even less.
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That's not right.
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You are right... it should be

(12/51)(11/50)(10/49)(9/48)

and

(2/51)(2/50)(2/49)(2/48)
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Still not right.

Would you mind explaining how you came up with your computations?

Also, how many wild cards are you assuming?
 
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: fivespeed5
real men play texas hold'em, no wild cards so this is never an issue.
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There's not as much skill required in that game as in other variations of poker...
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please tell me you did not just write that.
What game is used in the world series of POKER?
 
Originally posted by: Shooters
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Shooters
Originally posted by: her209
The odds of getting 5 of a kind is (12/52)(11/52)(10/52)(9/52)=0.415952

The odds of getting a straight flush (flush of the same suit) is (2/52)^4 assuming the first card picked is not lower than 5 or higher than a 10. If it is, the odds will be even less.
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That's not right.
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You are right... it should be

(12/51)(11/50)(10/49)(9/48)

and

(2/51)(2/50)(2/49)(2/48)
Click to expand...

Still not right.

Would you mind explaining how you came up with your computations?

Also, how many wild cards are you assuming?
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No wildcards assumed.

For 5 of a kind:

The chances of picking a 1st card from the deck is 1 (52 of 52). The chances of picking a 2nd card of the same suit from the deck is 12 of 51 cards. The chances of picking a 3rd card of the same suit from the deck is 11 of 50 cards...

For a straight flush (meaning a hand of sequetial cards of the same suit (lmk know if I'm wrong here)):

The chances of picking a 1st card from the deck is 1 (52 of 52). The chances of picking a 2nd card that is adjacent to the first card of the same suit is 2 of 51. The chances of picking a 3rd card that is adjacent to the first card or the second card of the same suit is 2 of 50....

EDIT: nvm the straight flush, its more complicated than that.
 
Originally posted by: her209
No wildcards assumed.

For 5 of a kind:

The chances of picking a 1st card from the deck is 1 (52 of 52). The chances of picking a 2nd card of the same suit from the deck is 12 of 51 cards. The chances of picking a 3rd card of the same suit from the deck is 11 of 50 cards...
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How are you able to get 5 of a kind without having any wild cards?
 
Five of a kind is *not* a flush. Five of a kind is having, say, AAAA and a wild J. That's why the calculations look so strange.
 
Originally posted by: Dudd
Five of a kind is *not* a flush. Five of a kind is having, say, AAAA and a wild J. That's why the calculations look so strange.
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That's what I was trying to get him to realize.

Even so, the calculation for the flush is incorrect as well because it also includes the 40 possible straight flushes.
 
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Shooters
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Shooters
Originally posted by: her209
The odds of getting 5 of a kind is (12/52)(11/52)(10/52)(9/52)=0.415952

The odds of getting a straight flush (flush of the same suit) is (2/52)^4 assuming the first card picked is not lower than 5 or higher than a 10. If it is, the odds will be even less.
Click to expand...

That's not right.
Click to expand...
You are right... it should be

(12/51)(11/50)(10/49)(9/48)

and

(2/51)(2/50)(2/49)(2/48)
Click to expand...

Still not right.

Would you mind explaining how you came up with your computations?

Also, how many wild cards are you assuming?
Click to expand...
No wildcards assumed.

For 5 of a kind:

The chances of picking a 1st card from the deck is 1 (52 of 52). The chances of picking a 2nd card of the same suit from the deck is 12 of 51 cards. The chances of picking a 3rd card of the same suit from the deck is 11 of 50 cards...

For a straight flush (meaning a hand of sequetial cards of the same suit (lmk know if I'm wrong here)):

The chances of picking a 1st card from the deck is 1 (52 of 52). The chances of picking a 2nd card that is adjacent to the first card of the same suit is 2 of 51. The chances of picking a 3rd card that is adjacent to the first card or the second card of the same suit is 2 of 50....

EDIT: nvm the straight flush, its more complicated than that.
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You've mistaken a flush for 5 of a kind.
 
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