What's going on with AMOLED tablets?

[desura]

AMOLED is really perfect for tablets. I have a little AMOLED galaxy 7.7, and IMO it has better image quality than my plasma screen. Better blacks, comparable motion. Tablets are really killer for watching movies and tv.

Really slow though. Needs a modern updating.

So what's the holdup? The perfect tablet would be an atom windows 8 tablet, 7-10 inch, with a good AMOLED screen.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Because the maturity of AMOLED isn't just there yet. Even Samsung's AMOLEDs are limited to flagships and some odd model here and there, and the 1080p ones are still stuck with the inferior pentile matrix instead of standard RGB stripe including the upcoming S5.

 

[s44]

Samsung has more Android ones in the pipeline, but Windows... is never going to happen.

 

[Rdmkr]

I'm not so sure the downsides of pentile are a big deal these days... the human eyeball doesn't care about chroma information anywhere near as much as about luma information and pentile delivers the latter on the same level as RGB stripe. A lot of content like blu-ray movies and conpressed jpeg files (i.e. the majority of website content) aren't even sampled fully in terms of choma. If there's a substantial battery life improvement from employing pentile I might actually prefer it.

I really need to squint to notice anything about the pentile layout on my Yoga 2 Pro.

Image courtesy of wikipedia. Left shows Luma only, center Chroma only.

Sony puts some pretty impressive screens in their mobile devices these days; the color gamut of their Z2's screen exceeds that of amoled screens and their Z1 compact has a contrast ratio nearing 2000. you might (someday) find a tablet of theirs with a screen quality on a level very close to amoled's.

 

[Dari]

WTF do you keep bringing this up every couple of months? And, of course, Samsung's unofficial (but official) mouthpiece, S44, has a ready answer (speculation, of course)...

Here are your previous threads on the subject:

Super AMOLED vs IPS LCD

Any Galaxy Tab 7.7 fans here?

 

[Raduque]

Dari, we get it. You hate AMOLED. You can stop now.

 

[Dari]

Dari, we get it. You hate AMOLED. You can stop now.

Stop what? The OP is going through a metamorphosis in real-time. Instead of keeping everything in one thread, it's like a serial. It's annoying.

 

[WelshBloke]

Stop what? The OP is going through a metamorphosis in real-time. Instead of keeping everything in one thread, it's like a serial. It's annoying.

Make a deal with him.

He keeps his OLED love in one thread, you keep your bitching about OLED in a different one?

 

[Puddle Jumper]

I would love a new AMOLED tablet also, my Note 3's display is stunning, that kind of quality at 10" would be amazing

 

[gorcorps]

Because the maturity of AMOLED isn't just there yet. Even Samsung's AMOLEDs are limited to flagships and some odd model here and there, and the 1080p ones are still stuck with the inferior pentile matrix instead of standard RGB stripe including the upcoming S5.

I can't believe people are still bitching about pentile. At current resolutions you can't tell. Maybe on certain tablets, but even pressed against my nose I can't pick out a single pixel on the phones.

 

[you2]

I think the new samsung tablets ips screen are pretty darn good. I do have an excite 7.7 which is oled. My biggest complaint about all the 7-8 inch tablets are lack of battery life; would prefer they come up with better battery technology than oled vs ips. I do love the blacks on oled and the lack of glow but not so much that I would buy it over other featuers or pay extra.

 

[StrangerGuy]

I can't believe people are still bitching about pentile. At current resolutions you can't tell. Maybe on certain tablets, but even pressed against my nose I can't pick out a single pixel on the phones.

All I'm saying if AMOLED is a mature tech it will be everywhere and this pentile thingie wouldnt need to exist.

 

[Oyeve]

Stop what? The OP is going through a metamorphosis in real-time. Instead of keeping everything in one thread, it's like a serial. It's annoying.

Stop being an anti-amoled-samsung twat. So what if he brings it up every once in a while, no one is forcing you to read it. You are becoming more and more pathetic with your samsung hate.

 

[Commodus]

I do think AMOLED has come a long way, and is generally fine (especially at very high resolutions). Samsung likely isn't using it because of costs and production yields for the kind of resolution it would want. Remember Toshiba's AMOLED tablet, the Excite 7.7? It had a great screen... and it cost $500. That was 2012, but I wouldn't count on a similar design costing $400 or less in 2014.

It's not as if we're suffering with modern LCDs, either. They're color-accurate, more visible than some AMOLED panels in brightly lit environments and work well at very high resolutions without costing a fortune. I've used both current iPads and the Galaxy Tab Pro line... they're just dandy for videos.

 

[Dari]

Stop being an anti-amoled-samsung twat. So what if he brings it up every once in a while, no one is forcing you to read it. You are becoming more and more pathetic with your samsung hate.

Aren't you the anti-twat twat. Still holding on to that found you "found"? How can I "hate" Samsung when I am about to buy one of their tablets?

 

[dawheat]

Does it really even matter these days? It used to be LCDs were massively brighter and more color accurate, while their blacks were grey compared to AMOLEDs and for better or for worse were less saturated.

Now resolutions on both are too high to be visibly different, LCD blacks have gotten much blacker while AMOLEDs have gotten very bright (even better with the S5-gen screens) while they can be quite accurate (Note 3 movie mode) and power usage has gotten better with each gen.

Going forward my questions are whether AMOLEDs will be able to scale to 2K and 4K resolutions in phablet/tablet form factors as quickly as LCDs, balanced out by some useful features that are more efficient with AMOLEDs (active notifications, etc).

 

[desura]

Eh, I bring it up now and again b/c I really love AMOLED in tablets...and am utterly puzzled at their lack of market presence. Hell, IMO the AMOLED screens I've seen are superior to Plasma TV's.

And uh, so some dude searched through all of my posts (and remembered past posts enough) to link previous threads? Which I'd forgotten about myself?

Wow.

 

[Raduque]

Stop what?

Stop whining about how you hate AMOLED.

It's annoying.

And you're not?

 

[desura]

So whenever I do a google search for "AMOLED tablet" there seems to be rumors, from as far back as like spring 2013, that Samsung has AMOLED tablets in the pipeline on the way.

They also seem to think that they'll be shown at Mobile World Congress. and 2014's is past so that isn't happening.

It's just so weird to me that a few appeared in 2012, and then for two years nothing has happened. AMOLED's in tablets are FUCKING AWESOME. Better than AMOLED in phones since tablets are used more for video than text reading.

 

[Oyeve]

I think sammy is holding back intentionally as the market is kinda saturated with tablets. Apple has 4-5 versions of its own and god knows how many legit android tablets are out there and how many dozen illegitimate ones. Plus, coming out with a killer screen now would negate many non-apple buyers from buying a new one every year or two. I know if I had a killer 10" screen tablet i would consider updating it anytime soon.

 

[MrSquished]

i agree, Amoled is great for tablets, which are usually used indoors or in artificially lit places. In sunlight with cell phones i am done with amoled, sticking with LCD screens as they do well in sunlight. Hence going from G4 to N5.