whats going on in London???

[BBond]

Originally posted by: NJDevil



Jeez, I didn't read the entire thread. Notice how I said, "BBond and anyone else taking a huge crap on this thread". How's this, Irwincur, please have some respect for the victims by not crapping.

Does that make you happy?

I guess your arguments of, "it doesn't matter who's doing it, just that it's bad" referring to corruption don't apply to your negativity in this thread. Does "he did it too" justify your behavior? I thought you said only "repugs" acted like this.

Partisan hack ...

You're confusing cause and effect. If I didn't react Irwin would have carried on spreading his infectious religious hatred. That's the last I'll have to say on it unless Irwin decides to reappear and vent more hatred.

 

[cumhail]

Originally posted by: irwincur

Please don't feed the troll.

Please respond with something useful.

Or explain where and when I started to troll.

Oh, I know, you have not bothered to read any of the posts...

Why do you assume I meant you?

cumhail

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken


I realize how idiotic yours is. It's like claiming "Omg, there's still murder and violence so the police have shown themselves to be useless.' Damn. We may as well just fold it up and never use police again, since those crimes still exist. :roll:

No matter how careful we try to be, there is absolutely no way to prevent further attacks, short of putting up a steel wall around the entire US and letting nobody in or out. Besides that, we've already tried the defensive posture and it failed us. And if the attacks of al Qaeda are all about the US occupation and their response to it, then please explain what al Qaeda and fundie Islam is doing in Thailand, the Phillipines, Bangladesh, India, Indonesia, Russia, and a good number of African countries. What's their fvcking excuse there?

Wake up people. This is NOT about Iraq. Iraq is merely a convenient excuse for them and their apologists. This is the spread of fundie Islam and it needs to be stopped, period. The only way to do that is to fight back. Hiding your head in the sand to that fact only does one thing - It hikes yor ass up in the air.

Hey chicken, NJ Devil says STFU.

 

[ShinGouki]

Forsythe I hope I'm reading what you just said wrong! Or are you truly saying that the death of over 40 people *is a good thing for this world*. I really hope I'm just misintepreting your sentance and your referring to something else.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Well - so much for Bush's sham 'war on terror'.

It's doing nothing but causing greater amounts of death on innocent civilians.

I find it odd that in London, where you can't put a backpack down for a moment without drawing attention, someone was able to plant multiple bombs and detonate them simultaneously.

I feel much safer now. Thanks George.

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Well - so much for Bush's sham 'war on terror'.

It's doing nothing but causing greater amounts of death on innocent civilians.

Why do you say that? Just because there's never been so many terror attacks by muslims in europe before, you have to put the blame on him (j/k)

I still have doubt whether or not it's muslims.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.conjur.com/blog/2005/07/07/terror-attack-on-londons-underground/

It appears that up to seven Underground (London's subway system) stops were targeted. Casualties galore (at least 90 reported at one station alone with two fatalities reported). This is all very preliminary but it's obviously an orchestrated attack. Some of the stops included Liverpool, Aldgate, and Kings Cross. There are reports of people still trapped in the Tube and the national morning news shows keep showing looped footage of survivors receiving assistance.

Footage has also been shown of the top of one of London's famous double-decker buses having been destroyed by an explosion.

Now, whether the attack was timed to coincide with the opening of the G8 today or whether Paris, London, Madrid, NYC, etc. were going to be hit one day after the announcement of the location of the 2012 Olympics is also unclear.

What is clear, though, is that the fvcking BS rhetoric from this admin that "America and the world are safer" is now completely and utterly without basis. Attacks like this will continue no matter what countries are invaded and no matter what sanctions are imposed upon others. There will always be a fringe element seeking to cause death and destruction.

Better security at home at ports, chemical plants, transportation hubs, trucking industry, etc. is what we need, not more bombs and bullets.

Here's an early report from CNN:
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/07/london.tube/index.html

This very easily could have been in New York. America IS safer.

Wow. You don't even realize how idiotic that statement is.

I realize how idiotic yours is. It's like claiming "Omg, there's still murder and violence so the police have shown themselves to be useless.' Damn. We may as well just fold it up and never use police again, since those crimes still exist. :roll:

No matter how careful we try to be, there is absolutely no way to prevent further attacks, short of putting up a steel wall around the entire US and letting nobody in or out. Besides that, we've already tried the defensive posture and it failed us. And if the attacks of al Qaeda are all about the US occupation and their response to it, then please explain what al Qaeda and fundie Islam is doing in Thailand, the Phillipines, Bangladesh, India, Indonesia, Russia, and a good number of African countries. What's their fvcking excuse there?

Wake up people. This is NOT about Iraq. Iraq is merely a convenient excuse for them and their apologists. This is the spread of fundie Islam and it needs to be stopped, period. The only way to do that is to fight back. Hiding your head in the sand to that fact only does one thing - It hikes yor ass up in the air.[/quote]

The reason for the spread of your worst nightmare, the fundie islam, is your imperialistic actions the many last years. The ones that escalated under Bush.[/quote]
Fundie Islam began before the Ottoman Empire crumbled. In fact, Wahhabism came about as a reaction to the lavish excesses of the Ottomans.

Want to stop terror? Quit pissing people off.
It's very simple.

These terrorists are a group of people who are perpetually pissed off and are looking for any excuse to take their anger out on someone or something.

[edit]
Oh, and it happens to be the very same way they try to fight it over in asia. The american, steel to steel, bullet to bullet, eye for an eye method.

Don't you mean the head for a head method?

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.conjur.com/blog/2005/07/07/terror-attack-on-londons-underground/

It appears that up to seven Underground (London's subway system) stops were targeted. Casualties galore (at least 90 reported at one station alone with two fatalities reported). This is all very preliminary but it's obviously an orchestrated attack. Some of the stops included Liverpool, Aldgate, and Kings Cross. There are reports of people still trapped in the Tube and the national morning news shows keep showing looped footage of survivors receiving assistance.

Footage has also been shown of the top of one of London's famous double-decker buses having been destroyed by an explosion.

Now, whether the attack was timed to coincide with the opening of the G8 today or whether Paris, London, Madrid, NYC, etc. were going to be hit one day after the announcement of the location of the 2012 Olympics is also unclear.

What is clear, though, is that the fvcking BS rhetoric from this admin that "America and the world are safer" is now completely and utterly without basis. Attacks like this will continue no matter what countries are invaded and no matter what sanctions are imposed upon others. There will always be a fringe element seeking to cause death and destruction.

Better security at home at ports, chemical plants, transportation hubs, trucking industry, etc. is what we need, not more bombs and bullets.

Here's an early report from CNN:
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/07/london.tube/index.html

This very easily could have been in New York. America IS safer.

Wow. You don't even realize how idiotic that statement is.

I realize how idiotic yours is. It's like claiming "Omg, there's still murder and violence so the police have shown themselves to be useless.' Damn. We may as well just fold it up and never use police again, since those crimes still exist. :roll:

No matter how careful we try to be, there is absolutely no way to prevent further attacks, short of putting up a steel wall around the entire US and letting nobody in or out. Besides that, we've already tried the defensive posture and it failed us. And if the attacks of al Qaeda are all about the US occupation and their response to it, then please explain what al Qaeda and fundie Islam is doing in Thailand, the Phillipines, Bangladesh, India, Indonesia, Russia, and a good number of African countries. What's their fvcking excuse there?

Wake up people. This is NOT about Iraq. Iraq is merely a convenient excuse for them and their apologists. This is the spread of fundie Islam and it needs to be stopped, period. The only way to do that is to fight back. Hiding your head in the sand to that fact only does one thing - It hikes yor ass up in the air.[/quote]

The reason for the spread of your worst nightmare, the fundie islam, is your imperialistic actions the many last years. The ones that escalated under Bush.

Want to stop terror? Quit pissing people off.
It's very simple.

[edit]
Oh, and it happens to be the very same way they try to fight it over in asia. The american, steel to steel, bullet to bullet, eye for an eye method.[/quote]

How did Clinton piss Timothy McVeigh off?

 

[BarneyFife]

I read that 10k police officers were at the g8 summit protecting the criminals and London was an easy target because of this.

 

[BBond]

Chicken, learn to use the quote function. Your replies are impossible to read.

 

[catnap1972]

Originally posted by: Forsythe

I still have doubt whether or not it's muslims.

As stupid as it sounds (and maybe it doesn't), could it be some French terrorist group that's pissed that they "lost" the Olympics?

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.conjur.com/blog/2005/07/07/terror-attack-on-londons-underground/

It appears that up to seven Underground (London's subway system) stops were targeted. Casualties galore (at least 90 reported at one station alone with two fatalities reported). This is all very preliminary but it's obviously an orchestrated attack. Some of the stops included Liverpool, Aldgate, and Kings Cross. There are reports of people still trapped in the Tube and the national morning news shows keep showing looped footage of survivors receiving assistance.

Footage has also been shown of the top of one of London's famous double-decker buses having been destroyed by an explosion.

Now, whether the attack was timed to coincide with the opening of the G8 today or whether Paris, London, Madrid, NYC, etc. were going to be hit one day after the announcement of the location of the 2012 Olympics is also unclear.

What is clear, though, is that the fvcking BS rhetoric from this admin that "America and the world are safer" is now completely and utterly without basis. Attacks like this will continue no matter what countries are invaded and no matter what sanctions are imposed upon others. There will always be a fringe element seeking to cause death and destruction.

Better security at home at ports, chemical plants, transportation hubs, trucking industry, etc. is what we need, not more bombs and bullets.

Here's an early report from CNN:
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/07/london.tube/index.html

This very easily could have been in New York. America IS safer.

Wow. You don't even realize how idiotic that statement is.

I realize how idiotic yours is. It's like claiming "Omg, there's still murder and violence so the police have shown themselves to be useless.' Damn. We may as well just fold it up and never use police again, since those crimes still exist. :roll:

No matter how careful we try to be, there is absolutely no way to prevent further attacks, short of putting up a steel wall around the entire US and letting nobody in or out. Besides that, we've already tried the defensive posture and it failed us. And if the attacks of al Qaeda are all about the US occupation and their response to it, then please explain what al Qaeda and fundie Islam is doing in Thailand, the Phillipines, Bangladesh, India, Indonesia, Russia, and a good number of African countries. What's their fvcking excuse there?

Wake up people. This is NOT about Iraq. Iraq is merely a convenient excuse for them and their apologists. This is the spread of fundie Islam and it needs to be stopped, period. The only way to do that is to fight back. Hiding your head in the sand to that fact only does one thing - It hikes yor ass up in the air.

The reason for the spread of your worst nightmare, the fundie islam, is your imperialistic actions the many last years. The ones that escalated under Bush.[/quote]
Fundie Islam began before the Ottoman Empire crumbled. In fact, Wahhabism came about as a reaction to the lavish excesses of the Ottomans.

Want to stop terror? Quit pissing people off.
It's very simple.

These terrorists are a group of people who are perpetually pissed off and are looking for any excuse to take their anger out on someone or something.

[edit]
Oh, and it happens to be the very same way they try to fight it over in asia. The american, steel to steel, bullet to bullet, eye for an eye method.

Don't you mean the head for a head method?[/quote]

So you're basically just drawing a red lione from the fall of the ottoman empire to, today?
There've been fundies all over the world, and all through the time in every religion.
When you piss of people, you're gonna get burned. I might not agree on it, but for every act, there's a reaction. If you wan't to live with that, be my guest.

 

[TWills]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Well - so much for Bush's sham 'war on terror'.

It's doing nothing but causing greater amounts of death on innocent civilians.

Well, I suppose you think that those terrorists would have just stayed home if we had not gone over there to kick their &&$ after 9-11.

 

[AntiEverything]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Well - so much for Bush's sham 'war on terror'.

It's doing nothing but causing greater amounts of death on innocent civilians.

I find it odd that in London, where you can't put a backpack down for a moment without drawing attention, someone was able to plant multiple bombs and detonate them simultaneously.

I feel much safer now. Thanks George.

Yep, because terrorism was actually invented the moment George Bush was voted into office. It NEVER occurred while, say, Bill Clinton was president. :roll:

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: TWills

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Well - so much for Bush's sham 'war on terror'.

It's doing nothing but causing greater amounts of death on innocent civilians.

Well, I suppose you think that those terrorists would have just stayed home if we had not gone over there to kick their &&$ after 9-11.

Just like they stayed home after we had "gone over there to kick their &&$"?

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: catnap1972

Originally posted by: Forsythe

I still have doubt whether or not it's muslims.

As stupid as it sounds (and maybe it doesn't), could it be some French terrorist group that's pissed that they "lost" the Olympics?

LOL, that's far stretched, but i guess it's a possibility
What i would think is that it's some kind of underground movement that's tired of the idiots in the world today.

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: TWills

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Well - so much for Bush's sham 'war on terror'.

It's doing nothing but causing greater amounts of death on innocent civilians.

Well, I suppose you think that those terrorists would have just stayed home if we had not gone over there to kick their &&$ after 9-11.

Just like they stayed home after we had "gone over there to kick their &&$"?

Most of the world didn't mind afghanistan. Along came Iraq.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
I read that 10k police officers were at the g8 summit protecting the criminals and London was an easy target because of this.

Odd that they would move such a large force to Glen Eagles when the U.S. probably has enough monitoring equipment around Bush to identify any threat before it's ever even planned.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: TWills

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Well - so much for Bush's sham 'war on terror'.

It's doing nothing but causing greater amounts of death on innocent civilians.

Well, I suppose you think that those terrorists would have just stayed home if we had not gone over there to kick their &&$ after 9-11.

Bush went to Iraq. There were no terrorists in Iraq. If he went over there to "kick their &&$ after 9-11" WHY THE F*** DID HE "GO TO" IRAQ WHEN THEY WERE AND STILL ARE ALL IN AFGHNAISTAN???

And why not Saudi Arabia where most of them came from?

 

[phillyTIM]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: TWills

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Well - so much for Bush's sham 'war on terror'.

It's doing nothing but causing greater amounts of death on innocent civilians.

Well, I suppose you think that those terrorists would have just stayed home if we had not gone over there to kick their &&$ after 9-11.

Just like they stayed home after we had "gone over there to kick their &&$"?

EXACTLY. At least our Country would not be in debt and probably we would have certain Social Security & retirement benefits to look forward to. Rather than those monies being wasted away in the Iraqi desert on some Bush testosterone thrill kick of lies.

Trust me, we are ALL paying for this worthless sham - with our money AND our lives. Bush is giving Osama exactly what he wants - the bankruptcy of America - lock, stock, morals and money.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Forsythe
So you're basically just drawing a red lione from the fall of the ottoman empire to, today?
There've been fundies all over the world, and all through the time in every religion.
When you piss of people, you're gonna get burned. I might not agree on it, but for every act, there's a reaction. If you wan't to live with that, be my guest.

The fundies pissed us off numerous times. 9/11 was the final straw. Too bad for them and unfortunate for those in the ME who have to suffer because of the actions of their fringe idiots.

 

[MrPabulum]

Originally posted by: Commish

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: matstars


Wow conjur...

So we should just leave the middle east to be a breeding ground for hatred and harboring western terrorists.

wow... just wow...

No, we should make up lies to justify illegal unprovoked aggression that create a breeding ground for hatred.

That "breeding ground" existed long before the "unprovoked war".

 

[conjur]

http://ichounslow.icnetwork.co.uk/news/...attack-is--mass-murder--name_page.html

"I want to say one thing: This was not a terrorist attack against the mighty or the powerful, it is not aimed at presidents or prime ministers, it was aimed at ordinary working-class Londoners," Livingstone said.

"That isn't an ideology, it isn't even a perverted faith, it's mass murder," Livingstone said. "We know what the objective is. They seek to divide London."

We're with you, London.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4660391.stm

"In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate, may peace be upon the cheerful one and undaunted fighter, Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him.

Nation of Islam and Arab nation: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge against the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan. The heroic mujahideen have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters.

We have repeatedly warned the British Government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahideen exerted strenuous efforts over a long period of time to ensure the success of the raid.

We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused.

God says: "You who believe: If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly."

:| : puke;

 

[imported_Tango]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: TWills

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Well - so much for Bush's sham 'war on terror'.

It's doing nothing but causing greater amounts of death on innocent civilians.

Well, I suppose you think that those terrorists would have just stayed home if we had not gone over there to kick their &&$ after 9-11.

Bush went to Iraq. There were no terrorists in Iraq. If he went over there to "kick their &&$ after 9-11" WHY THE F*** DID HE "GO TO" IRAQ WHEN THEY WERE AND STILL ARE ALL IN AFGHNAISTAN???

And why not Saudi Arabia where most of them came from?

Because the Saudis have very deep links in the american politics, control A LOT of the world oil markets and beeing an absolute monarchy are a somewhat stable commercial partner. Plus Mecca is in Saudi Arabia, so it is virtually inattackable without causing a global religion war...

 

[imported_Tango]

Originally posted by: conjur
http://ichounslow.icnetwork.co.uk/news/...attack-is--mass-murder--name_page.html

"I want to say one thing: This was not a terrorist attack against the mighty or the powerful, it is not aimed at presidents or prime ministers, it was aimed at ordinary working-class Londoners," Livingstone said.

"That isn't an ideology, it isn't even a perverted faith, it's mass murder," Livingstone said. "We know what the objective is. They seek to divide London."

We're with you, London.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4660391.stm

"In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate, may peace be upon the cheerful one and undaunted fighter, Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him.

Nation of Islam and Arab nation: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge against the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan. The heroic mujahideen have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters.

We have repeatedly warned the British Government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahideen exerted strenuous efforts over a long period of time to ensure the success of the raid.

We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused.

God says: "You who believe: If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly."

:| : puke;

The revindication is of course a fake. Every one who studied a little of terrorism history knows that one of the most distinctive trademarks of Al-Qaeda is that it NEVER revindicate terror attacks. No reason to change this behaviour.