what's better than beef on the bbq?

[gururu]

The problem is, you're being irrational. The sooner you realize that, the better off you'll be.

now remind me why there is a problem? certainly not for lack of finding beef substitutes :Q

 

[Orsorum]

I want some barbequed beef now. THANKS A BUNCH.

Jerks.

/me goes back to eating poor college student food

 

[lobadobadingdong]

my point is if you kid yourself into eating something that's not likely infected anyway (even with a lie to yourself) it's no different than eating food that's possibly infected with a host of other things, lose your paranoid behaviors and be a man.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: gururu

The problem is, you're being irrational. The sooner you realize that, the better off you'll be.

now remind me why there is a problem? certainly not for lack of finding beef substitutes :Q

The problem is, instead of addressing your irrational fear of beef, you are trying to accomodate it.

 

[gururu]

The problem is, instead of addressing your irrational fear of beef, you are trying to accomodate it.

the only way to address it would be to consume it along with the risk of contracting this disease, not to mention many other diseases associated with red meat intake (heart disease, colon cancer). But that is besides the point, because I'm not preaching to you yet you find it important to preach to me

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: gururu

The problem is, instead of addressing your irrational fear of beef, you are trying to accomodate it.

the only way to address it would be to consume it along with the risk of contracting this disease, not to mention many other diseases associated with red meat intake (heart disease, colon cancer). But that is besides the point, because I'm not preaching to you yet you find it important to preach to me

Heart disease is a hereditary disease that is simply triggered by eating a high fat diet. IF your family has a history of heart disease, I could understand you wanting to avoid high cholesterol foods. Otherwise, that fear is irrational as well.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: gururu

The problem is, instead of addressing your irrational fear of beef, you are trying to accomodate it.

the only way to address it would be to consume it along with the risk of contracting this disease, not to mention many other diseases associated with red meat intake (heart disease, colon cancer). But that is besides the point, because I'm not preaching to you yet you find it important to preach to me

eh...

We're not preaching, at least I'm not. You said that being knowledgeable about prion virology blahblah gives you some knowledge that makes you not want to eat beef, and I am asking you to give me that knowledge so I can determine whether it is a logical decision or not.

 

[gururu]

Oh you've Amused me so. Now, really, do you have any suggestions regarding the title of this thread?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: gururu

The problem is, instead of addressing your irrational fear of beef, you are trying to accomodate it.

the only way to address it would be to consume it along with the risk of contracting this disease, not to mention many other diseases associated with red meat intake (heart disease, colon cancer). But that is besides the point, because I'm not preaching to you yet you find it important to preach to me

you do know if you eat right (yes you need red meat) exercise etc you will be fine? heck if you do all that you well even if you don't you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning then getting MCD?

eat less. its OK! more for me.

/me has 2 strip steaks for today. to bad its raining! bah!

 

[Bulk Beef]

Originally posted by: gururu

The problem is, instead of addressing your irrational fear of beef, you are trying to accomodate it.

the only way to address it would be to consume it along with the risk of contracting this disease, not to mention many other diseases associated with red meat intake (heart disease, colon cancer). But that is besides the point, because I'm not preaching to you yet you find it important to preach to me

You're the one that said it seems silly, so what gives? Is it silly or not?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: gururu

The problem is, instead of addressing your irrational fear of beef, you are trying to accomodate it.

the only way to address it would be to consume it along with the risk of contracting this disease, not to mention many other diseases associated with red meat intake (heart disease, colon cancer). But that is besides the point, because I'm not preaching to you yet you find it important to preach to me

you do know if you eat right (yes you need red meat) exercise etc you will be fine? heck if you do all that you well even if you don't you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning then getting MCD?

eat less. its OK! more for me.

/me has 2 strip steaks for today. to bad its raining! bah!

The only problem I have with your post is your assertion that you "need" red meat.

Nonsense. It is entirely possible to get all the lipids and proteins you need from non-animal sources, but it sure as hell isn't going to taste as good.

 

[Ausm]

WTF is wrong with beef?


Sysadmin

 

[gururu]

Eli...

statistics concerning the amount of tainted beef in the U.S. are completely unknown because the government has not approved testing of cattle at what I believe to be a reasonable level. The motivations behind the suppression of thorough testing are clear and based on non-scientific support.
From the beginning a lot of misinformation was propagated through the media and though I see no shame in that, particularly because there just wasn't a lot known, it seems that the government and media has done little to correct this misinformation. Lets talk about one of the more serious issues about prions being localized to neuronal tissue. This is not true. Though the brain may be the starting point where infectious prions begin misfolding endogenous prions, it has been found that infectious prions traverse the blood brain barrier and can be found in organs and the periphery. In other words, infectious prions can be in the flesh of the infected animal.
Anyways, until we adopt programs like Japan and England, where larger numbers of cattle, if not all, are tested, welll.... I'll do my best to avoid it.

Anyway, it is absurd to believe that U.S. cows have not experienced this disease. It is out there, and Americans will get it. It may be a very small percentage, but it is certainly a horrible way to go out. Its not like eating E'Coli tainted meat, that will take you out within a day or two. With vBSE, it takes months or even years to die.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: gururu

The problem is, instead of addressing your irrational fear of beef, you are trying to accomodate it.

the only way to address it would be to consume it along with the risk of contracting this disease, not to mention many other diseases associated with red meat intake (heart disease, colon cancer). But that is besides the point, because I'm not preaching to you yet you find it important to preach to me

you do know if you eat right (yes you need red meat) exercise etc you will be fine? heck if you do all that you well even if you don't you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning then getting MCD?

eat less. its OK! more for me.

/me has 2 strip steaks for today. to bad its raining! bah!

The only problem I have with your post is your assertion that you "need" red meat.

Nonsense. It is entirely possible to get all the lipids and proteins you need from non-animal sources, but it sure as hell isn't going to taste as good.

true you can get it from non meat products.

but whats the fun in that?

 

[TGregg]

Grilled fish is outstanding (my fav is trout). Check out a book called "The thrill of the Grille". But it is about grilling, not BBQing.

 

[glen]

Originally posted by: gururu
I've given up beef this last year because of mad cow disease (it only seems silly now!), so what is a good alternative? I've crossed out chicken and fish, but pork ribs will be served. Anyone experiment with grilled buffalo or ostrich?

You do realize that in the US, the odds of being killed during a one mile journey are greater than catching BSE? Eating beef is safer than driving to the store to buy it.

 

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong
if you cook the beef all the way through you don't have to worry about the mad cow disease, cook your steaks well done, and make sure you have no pink in them same with burgers.

Wrong.

And a complete waste of good meat, too.

Agreed. How many human cases of Mad Cow Disease have you actually heard about that've been CONFIRMED that have actually come from United States USDA-approved beef supplies? I sure haven't heard of any.

Don't cook your steak well-done. I prefer medium rare if I'm in a restaurant and rare if I'm making it myself. Cooking your meat 'till there's no pink is a waste of meat.

 

[Yo Ma Ma]

"What's better than beef on the bbq?" well 2 beefs on the bbq, of course

But seriously, pork is good for BBQ, but why have you 'crossed out' fish and chicken? Both are really good when grilled.

I think you'll find buffalo and ostrich to be priced as high or higher than shrimp.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: gururu
Eli...

statistics concerning the amount of tainted beef in the U.S. are completely unknown because the government has not approved testing of cattle at what I believe to be a reasonable level. The motivations behind the suppression of thorough testing are clear and based on non-scientific support.
From the beginning a lot of misinformation was propagated through the media and though I see no shame in that, particularly because there just wasn't a lot known, it seems that the government and media has done little to correct this misinformation. Lets talk about one of the more serious issues about prions being localized to neuronal tissue. This is not true. Though the brain may be the starting point where infectious prions begin misfolding endogenous prions, it has been found that infectious prions traverse the blood brain barrier and can be found in organs and the periphery. In other words, infectious prions can be in the flesh of the infected animal.
Anyways, until we adopt programs like Japan and England, where larger numbers of cattle, if not all, are tested, welll.... I'll do my best to avoid it.

Anyway, it is absurd to believe that U.S. cows have not experienced this disease. It is out there, and Americans will get it. It may be a very small percentage, but it is certainly a horrible way to go out. Its not like eating E'Coli tainted meat, that will take you out within a day or two. With vBSE, it takes months or even years to die.

Interesting stuff.

And I agree. Unfortunately, I'm just not willing to give it up.

I thought that it took something like 10 - 30 years for CJD to develop...

 

[Apex]

Lobster is AWESOME on the BBQ. My favorite is cold rock lobster (Australian is very good), but in a pinch, warm water lobsters are fine.

Get BBQ really hot. Chop lobster in half lengthwise. Sprinkle a little salt and pepper. Brush on a little butter. Brush olive oil on shell (especially claws).

Sear the lobster open side down to lock in moisture. Flip over, put some more butter and finish cooking. Don't overcook.

The olive oil will cause the shell to become brittle, making it easy to get to the meat.

Man, this is making me drool, and I've already finished lunch.

 

[gsaldivar]

Originally posted by: Amused
Eat beef and stop being such an idiot.

 

[KK]

GO to your store and pick up a hormel pork tenderlion. They come in multiple flavors. Just stick on the grill and turn every 15 minutes or so. Juiciest thing out their imho.

KK

 

[hdeck]

i'm so hungry now damn you i must go spend money on food!

 

[PCTweaker5]

Your pretty much safe from mad cow, even if the meat had it its possible you would still be alright as long as it was cooked properly. My dad works for the USDA in D.C. so I have the best of sources.

 

[jcuadrado]

venicen...the best...but expensive.