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whats better gf4-ti4600or rad 9600

samputer

Junior Member
currently have a gf4 ti 4600 which i am happy with but my brother in law wants a new card, he lives in the philippines which means he wants us to buy it. Agreed that he could have my gf4 and i would have the new card, want to know what to buy, would like a radeon but dont know which one, its got to be as good or better than the gf4 but not too expensive, any suggestions would be appreciated
thanks in advance

setup at this time is:
asus a7v8x
amd atlon xp2100
512ddr
gf4-ti4600
pioneer 106dvd rewriter
ibm 40gb
w/d 80gb
 
Originally posted by: samputer
currently have a gf4 ti 4600 which i am happy with but my brother in law wants a new card, he lives in the philippines which means he wants us to buy it. Agreed that he could have my gf4 and i would have the new card, want to know what to buy, would like a radeon but dont know which one, its got to be as good or better than the gf4 but not too expensive, any suggestions would be appreciated
thanks in advance

setup at this time is:
asus a7v8x
amd atlon xp2100
512ddr
gf4-ti4600
pioneer 106dvd rewriter
ibm 40gb
w/d 80gb

Most would probably recommend waiting or going to a faster card. The 4600 is faster than the Radeon 9600 in many games.

Me, my 4200 refurb just died so I'm considering a 9600 pro minumum, but I want to keep my upgrade/replacement cheap. It would be nice to get the DX9 capability while maintaining a similar performance

 
I wouldnt give up a 4600 for a 9600 card personally.

try to work something else out

maybe a 9700 Pro or something... but not a 9600... IMO.
 
Originally posted by: CraigRT
I wouldnt give up a 4600 for a 9600 card personally.

try to work something else out

maybe a 9700 Pro or something... but not a 9600... IMO.

Yes. The minimum should be 9600pro but that won't outperform 4600Ti w/o IQ settings. Buy a 9700 (strong DX9/8 performance) at least, or a 5900SE/5900 (weak, at least for now, DX9 but more powerfull than your Ti for DX8/OGL). I believe 5900SE costs $180 or something like that, which is a nice purchase.
 
THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE, WILL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT AS I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A GREAT DEAL, IVE SEEN A HERCULES 9800SE ALL IN ONE WONDER AT A GOOD PRICE, AS I MAINLY PLAY GAMES WOULD THIS CARD BE WORTH LOOKING AT AS IT IS A GOOD PRICE
THANKS
 
I would definitely not replace a ti4600 with a 9600. It would be a big downgrade in a lot of cases. You might consider just buying another used ti4600. Or, if you want an ati card get AT LEAST a 9600 pro, a 9700 would be better.
 
Originally posted by: samputer
WELL HAD ANOTHER LOOK AROUND AND FOUND A CREATIVE FX5900 AT 150 POUNDS, WOULD THIS BE A BETTER CHOICE
THANKS

That is good if you can afford it. Have a look if you see 9800 at a good price (just because it has stronger DX9).
Anyway 5900 would be a nice upgrade from your 4600.

Edit: Avoid 9800SE, is crap.
 
9600 is slower then a ti4600 untill you put AA/AF on. With aa/af on, the 9600 woops the ti4600. The 9600 pro, on the other hand is now about 95% as fast as a ti4600 without AA/AF and with them on, it tottally spanks the ti4600. If i had either, i would not take the other as an upgrade, but i would much rather have the radeon 9600 pro over the ti4600. Not to mention, the 9600 pro series over clocks so well, that a 9600 pro OC on average vs a ti4600 oc on average, the 9600 pro would win without aa/af and woop with it on. Granted, the ti4600 is a killer fast card, and some games, its a sure win, but most games, the 2 cards are neck and neck, and the ti4600 simply loses too much performance with aa/af for my tastes.
 
well as price is the biggest problem and as such yhe max iam looking at is 140 pounds or less is the 9600 xt 256mb the one , as long as its not slower than the ti 4600, or should i look at the fx 5900 which is just in the price bracket, as i would prefer not to spend too much ive seen a powercolor 9600 pro ez 256mb for less than 100 pounds but just dont know
thanks
 
well as price is the biggest problem and as such yhe max iam looking at is 140 pounds or less is the 9600 xt 256mb the one , as long as its not slower than the ti 4600, or should i look at the fx 5900 which is just in the price bracket, as i would prefer not to spend too much ive seen a powercolor 9600 pro ez 256mb for less than 100 pounds but just dont know
thanks
 
The powercolor pro EZ 256mb for less than 100 pounds has 200Mhz less memory clock than stock ATI 9600PRO, that is why it costs less. If i were you i'd get the 9600 XT, its pretty well overclockable and probably will be a tiny bit faster in some cases than the TI. Plus the radeon 9600XT supports Dx9, and performs better in upcoming games. And about the 256MB RAM, it does not matter if you get 256, having double the ram of a normal 128 will not impact performance, sometimes it will because chances are they are selling old memory, and will give you less performance than a normal 128MB. So if price is a problem, theres a solution for you, get a 128, it will not differ. All 256mb does is more texture storage, which really no game in the industry is taking advantage of. A stock PRO is normall 400Core clock, 600 Memory clock. And pay attention to memory interface or memory architecture. If its 128 and higher, its good. Anything below 128 would impact performance greatly, so really like i said, 256 will not always improve performance. Its jsut a tactic to make a profit and get rid of memory that might be useless. So pay attention to the memory interface, this is different from the amount of RAM you have. 128BIT memory architecture, and 128Mb of RAM is good.

If i didn't mention before, the radeon 9600series will be perfect for HL2, but thats only a speculation till the real game comes out, due to Nvidia-Valve controversy.
 
well i think i will go for the 9600xt, probably the hecules one or sapphire, prices about the same. Though would it be worth spending 30 pounds more for the hercules 9800se all-in-wonder as i read you can softmod it ,
thanks
 
Does anyone have an opinion on what kind of card I should get for my new rig. I'm looking at the 9600 XT, I've heard it's mem speed is quite good. I'd splurge for the 9800 Pro, but it'll be tough.

CPU: Athlon XP 2500+

Ram: 1 gig Mushkin DDR PC 3200

Mobo: ASUS A7N8X Deluxe

Montior: Samsung Syncmaster 172N

Thanks.
 
People, break out the credit card and get the 9800XT !! It rocks! I got 17,600 on 3DMark2001se at stock speed! Come on, that is way fast.
 
Originally posted by: stevennoland
People, break out the credit card and get the 9800XT !! It rocks! I got 17,600 on 3DMark2001se at stock speed! Come on, that is way fast.

16.300 with 9700pro oc'd..... what's the rest of your rig. That score isn't that high.
 
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