what's all the hubbub about the 760ti ?

[The Alias]

what the title says . I don't understand why people are excited for the 670/760ti at $300 when you get better oc vs oc performance from the 7950 PLUS 4 games AT THE SAME PRICE OR LOWER . heck the 670 is going for $330 according to pcpartpicker and it's not like the 760ti is getting the acx cooler either so what's the fuss ?

 

[tviceman]

A stock GTX670 is about 15% faster than a stock 7950. The 4 games have now been out for quite awhile and are selling for as low as $4 (Blood Dragon) to $10 for Tomb Raider and Crysis 3. If people don't want or already have the games, the value of the bundle has degraded to a point where many might not find it useful. This is the most useful graph for comparison (with plenty of games benchmarked: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_770/27.html ) Hardocp shows the gtx670 outperforming the 7950 boost by an even larger gulf in recent games like Bioshock Infinite http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1366059325bz0mQW3iY7_5_3.jpg , Metro Last Light http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/13697618874XKGVQyK8C_5_2.jpg , and Crysis 3 http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1362959270a9V2nme9e6_5_5.gif .

The 760ti hasn't been announced, final clock speeds haven't been disclosed, price hasn't been leaked, nothing is known yet about it. If going by the 770 as any sort of indication, it will likely end up equal to or slightly faster than the gtx670. If it's $299 then it will land pretty much with the type of value/comparison the gtx770 has the with the 7970GE. So the "hubub" you ask of makes sense, especially if it's slightly faster and slightly cheaper than the gtx670.

 

[The Alias]

A stock GTX670 is about 15% faster than a stock 7950. The 4 games have now been out for quite awhile and are selling for as low as $4 (Blood Dragon) to $10 for Tomb Raider and Crysis 3. If people don't want or already have the games, the value of the bundle has degraded to a point where many might not find it useful. This is the most useful graph for comparison (with plenty of games benchmarked: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_770/27.html ) Hardocp shows the gtx670 outperforming the 7950 boost by an even larger gulf in recent games like Bioshock Infinite ( http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1366059325bz0mQW3iY7_5_3.jpg ), Metro Last Light ( http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/13697618874XKGVQyK8C_5_2.jpg ), and Crysis 3 ( http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1362959270a9V2nme9e6_5_5.gif ).

The 760ti hasn't been announced, final clock speeds haven't been disclosed, price hasn't been leaked, nothing is known yet about it. If going by the 770 as any sort of indication, it will likely end up equal to or slightly faster than the gtx670. If it's $299 then it will land pretty much with the type of value/comparison the gtx770 has the with the 7970GE.

note I said oc vs oc and 7950's hit 1200 easy and often I've only had one that only did 1175 and it's most likely going to be the 670 so why not oc the already here 670 to 760ti levels and be happy

 

[Remobz]

A stock GTX670 is about 15% faster than a stock 7950. The 4 games have now been out for quite awhile and are selling for as low as $4 (Blood Dragon) to $10 for Tomb Raider and Crysis 3. If people don't want or already have the games, the value of the bundle has degraded to a point where many might not find it useful. This is the most useful graph for comparison (with plenty of games benchmarked: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_770/27.html ) Hardocp shows the gtx670 outperforming the 7950 boost by an even larger gulf in recent games like Bioshock Infinite http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1366059325bz0mQW3iY7_5_3.jpg , Metro Last Light http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/13697618874XKGVQyK8C_5_2.jpg , and Crysis 3 http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1362959270a9V2nme9e6_5_5.gif .

The 760ti hasn't been announced, final clock speeds haven't been disclosed, price hasn't been leaked, nothing is known yet about it. If going by the 770 as any sort of indication, it will likely end up equal to or slightly faster than the gtx670. If it's $299 then it will land pretty much with the type of value/comparison the gtx770 has the with the 7970GE. So the "hubub" you ask of makes sense, especially if it's slightly faster and slightly cheaper than the gtx670.

Thank you for clearing that up.

 

[chimaxi83]

"Nvidia".

That is all.

 

[Eureka]

Because the 7950 is so old now nobody cares much. Most people who are going to get one have already gotten it. The 760Ti is at least some movement in the GPU world.

 

[DaveSimmons]

what the title says . I don't understand why people are excited for the 670/760ti at $300 when you get better oc vs oc performance from the 7950 PLUS 4 games AT THE SAME PRICE OR LOWER . heck the 670 is going for $330 according to pcpartpicker and it's not like the 760ti is getting the acx cooler either so what's the fuss ?

Your post is the first hubbub I've read about it. Perhaps you should just relax and enjoy the AMD card you have now.

Also, you might love your massive OCs, but some of us run at stock to enjoy the 100% stability without effort.

When it's actually released I'll decide whether or not it's a card I'd recommend to others.

 

[The Alias]

Your post is the first hubbub I've read about it. Perhaps you should just relax and enjoy the AMD card you have now.
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psst I run a 650ti BOOST and a 750k

 

[raghu78]

the GTX 760 Ti is a renamed GTX 670 with slightly higher clocks. at the same clocks HD 7950 is 5% slower than HD 7970. at stock speeds the HD 7950 boost is on par with GTX 670. at average overclocks of 1150 mhz, HD 7950 trades blows with GTX 670 at 1250 mhz. with 4 free games HD 7950 is the better value. for people who want Nvidia Physx and who want slightly better stock performance GTX 760 Ti is a good option.

 

[The Alias]

the GTX 760 Ti is a renamed GTX 670 with slightly higher clocks. at the same clocks HD 7950 is 5% slower than HD 7970. at stock speeds the HD 7950 boost is on par with GTX 670. at average overclocks of 1150 mhz, HD 7950 trades blows with GTX 670 at 1250 mhz. with 4 free games HD 7950 is the better value. for people who want Nvidia Physx and who want slightly better stock performance GTX 760 Ti is a good option.

so then why not get a factory oc'ed 670 now and call it a day ?

 

[raghu78]

so then why not get a factory oc'ed 670 now and call it a day ?

GTX 760 Ti will launch at USD 300. the custom cards like ASUS DCII, MSI Power edition, EVGA Signature will cost USD 320 - 330. the cheapest GTX 670 at newegg is USD 340.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...h=1&srchInDesc=

so it makes sense to wait for GTX 760 Ti.

 

[wilds]

The 760ti will probably be just like the GTX 680's successor was built. So I bet we will see a GTX 670 on steroids just like the GTX 770 is a very beefed up version of the 680.

 

[toyota]

The 760ti will probably be just like the GTX 680's successor was built. So I bet we will see a GTX 670 on steroids just like the GTX 770 is a very beefed up version of the 680.

I doubt the 760 will be much faster than the 670 if at all. the 680 was only 3-5% faster than the 670 clock for clock so I doubt the 760 will be clocked much higher than the 670.

 

[yacoub]

I think the "free games" concept is stupid and of no value to many people, myself included. I'm currently running a pair of HD6950s and planning to go AMD again at my next upgrade, however the current choices are overpriced, with the excuse of games I don't want as a way to try to make up for the high prices. No thanks. I'll wait until either the competition from NVidia forces the now-aging 7950 and 7970 to drop in price or the next gen announcement from AMD does the same.

 

[wand3r3r]

Yeah I'd guess it's not going to add more than 10-15% more performance for the money. Perhaps 670+ 0-5%, price down 10%. It will not be exciting for most people. I'd imagine the people who will buy it are running something old.

I guess it will finally bring an NV card to actually compete with the 7950 on price, and probably gently beat stock cards.

On a side note, 2GB will be interesting when the consoles hit. (3GB might be too) Hoping for a massive need to upgrade to 6GB cards next year, but I doubt it will be that high (immediately).

 

[wand3r3r]

I think the "free games" concept is stupid and of no value to many people, myself included. I'm currently running a pair of HD6950s and planning to go AMD again at my next upgrade, however the current choices are overpriced, with the excuse of games I don't want as a way to try to make up for the high prices. No thanks. I'll wait until either the competition from NVidia forces the now-aging 7950 and 7970 to drop in price or the next gen announcement from AMD does the same.

I like the idea, although not at the cost of higher prices. I agree that I'd rather see a price drop then some games tacked on to keep the price up. However when they added the games they were already price competitive. So they used to be a nice bonus, now they are a smaller bonus.

Technically the now aging 7950 and 7970 are also just a little more aged then the 770/760ti which are the same cards as the 680/670 from over a year ago, to apply the same measurement of "age".

 

[toyota]

2 or 3 gb is not going to be an issue for a loong time. developers know darn well that 99.99% of even high cards dont have more than 3gb of vram. those grabbing 4gb models now will probably be wanting to upgrade again next year anyway as their gpu will will not have the grunt to crank the settings in upcoming games in the first place.

 

[wand3r3r]

2 or 3 gb is not going to be an issue for a loong time. developers know darn well that 99.99% of even high cards dont have more than 3gb of vram.

Yeah because the ram usage never goes up.

Of course you can disable some settings and enjoy the cards forever. That is the same argument for the GTX 5xx series until the 6xx hit with 2GB, suddenly people agreed 1-1.5GB is too little. Personally I think without the consoles hitting it would last longer, but there is certainly potential to use more than 2GB of ram since the consoles have 5-7GB for video memory. It will come, idk how long it will take. Christmas will be interesting.

As for the 4GB, NV has priced them too high so I agree it's not a great investment (compared to the competition). Yes, people will want to upgrade, but possibly in the same calendar year?

 

[toyota]

Yeah because the ram usage never goes up.

Of course you can disable some settings and enjoy the cards forever. That is the same argument for the GTX 5xx series until the 6xx hit with 2GB, suddenly people agreed 1-1.5GB is too little. Personally I think without the consoles hitting it would last longer, but there is certainly potential to use more than 2GB of ram since the consoles have 5-7GB for video memory. It will come, idk how long it will take. Christmas will be interesting.

As for the 4GB, NV has priced them too high so I agree it's not a great investment (compared to the competition). Yes, people will want to upgrade, but possibly in the same calendar year?

what are you rolling your eyes about? again if they know that miniscule amount of users have more than 3gb of vram then they sure as hell are not going to have settings that need more than at 1920x1080 for quite a while.

 

[Lepton87]

2Gb was good for Radeon 69xx generation, now I want more or I am not interested. 50% more Vram is a HUGE selling point unless you game at only 1080p with no AA, then 2GB should last you a while but forget about texture modes for games. I wouldn't buy 2GB card when 3GB card is available for the same price with practically the same performance. My bet is that you will have to lower texture quality on 2GB cards quite soon, it's not a big deal but 2GB is soooo last gen.

 

[Borealis7]

to me the question is: is the 760TI going to be a "fully fledged" 256bit card or crippled 192bit like the 660TI which tanks whenever a tiny bit of AA is involved?

 

[toyota]

to me the question is: is the 760TI going to be a "fully fledged" 256bit card or crippled 192bit like the 660TI which tanks whenever a tiny bit of AA is involved?

it will be the 670 so of course it will be 256 bit.

 

[Borealis7]

If so, then that's my next card.
I already know the GTX670 is almost twice as fast as my HD5850, so that'll be a great upgrade for me.

 

[toyota]

If so, then that's my next card.
I already know the GTX670 is almost twice as fast as my HD5850, so that'll be a great upgrade for me.

are you keeping your cpu? if not then I would not even bother.

 

[JimmiG]

Yeah I'd guess it's not going to add more than 10-15% more performance for the money. Perhaps 670+ 0-5%, price down 10%. It will not be exciting for most people. I'd imagine the people who will buy it are running something old.

I guess it will finally bring an NV card to actually compete with the 7950 on price, and probably gently beat stock cards.

On a side note, 2GB will be interesting when the consoles hit. (3GB might be too) Hoping for a massive need to upgrade to 6GB cards next year, but I doubt it will be that high (immediately).

Yep, upgrading from a GTX 460 here. I figure since the 760 is just around the corner, I might as well wait it out. There might be some good deals on GTX 670's too (stock clearance).

More VRAM is always useful. My GTX 460 1GB has served me well where as the 768MB version would have run into problems with games from 2011 and onward. I kind of hope someone will put out a 3GB 760. I bet open-world games like The Witcher 3 and GTA 5 will be able to use it.