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Whats a good SATA dvd burner..

Originally posted by: derail
It helps the airflow for cooling and it is also a faster conection
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I'd be interested to learn how a SATA DVD burner can help the airflow in a computer case.

Additionally, current (AFAIK) SATA CD/DVD drives arent' true SATA devices. They use a SATA-->IDE bridge chip so your connection isn't really any faster. You just get:

1. The convenience of the skinny SATA cable
2. The ability to use a SATA CD/DVD drive, b/c motherboard manufacturers' are killing off IDE; Intel 965P chipset doesn't even natively support IDE.

To the OP

ATM, there are only a few SATA burners out there. Plextor comes to mind...but it's really expensive...and not really worth it IMO. But "worth it" is really up to the user and his/her wallet.

Additionally, many motherboards (my Gigabyte DS3 comes to mind) have issues with using a SATA CD drive and SATA hard drives on the same SATA controller. The manufacturers haven't really worked out all the bugs yet.
 
op - you only have a few options, a plextor and i think a pioneeer?? personally i would go pata if you can and pick up a pioneer 111d
 
Originally posted by: derail
It helps the airflow for cooling and it is also a faster conection
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another victim of the marketing machine. considering that dvd-rw are ata-66 i really don't see how a 150MB/s connection is going to help. i guess the only advantage is the skinny cable and not have to add a jumper, oh yeah, since my newere psu only have a limited amount of mole connectors and i am out, that is another bonus if you have some sata power connectors.....
 
Originally posted by: bob4432
op - you only have a few options, a plextor and i think a pioneeer?? personally i would go pata if you can and pick up a pioneer 111d
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I believe I saw in another thread that Samsung makes SATA burners as well.
 
Originally posted by: Imyourzero
Originally posted by: bob4432
op - you only have a few options, a plextor and i think a pioneeer?? personally i would go pata if you can and pick up a pioneer 111d
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I believe I saw in another thread that Samsung makes SATA burners as well.
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yep, that is the one, maybe not pioneer then. i think the samsung one is ~$45 or so. i have messed around with the same models of sata/pata dvd-roms and the performance is identical
 
Originally posted by: bob4432
op - you only have a few options, a plextor and i think a pioneeer?? personally i would go pata if you can and pick up a pioneer 111d
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I have like 8 IDE burners leftover from a duplicator that i am going to upgrade...
since the Nec 3550's on there suck ass... the 3520's were much better. The thing is on the new Dell 9200's there are no IDE ports so I installed an older IDE card that I had laying around and this is what happened

frustrated lack of IDE support.... wtfbbqgrrrzzzzzzz!!?!?!!

^^^ so instead of living with frusteration until some1 on the net figures it out... I think i might have to get a SATA drive...

Such a pity that Intel chipset won't support IDE in the future... its hard enough as it is trying to configure addon cards correctly in windows xp... I seriously think my drives are all going in PIO mode... takes forever to xfer 4 gigs of data from drive to drive (187 minutes lolz) and takes like 28-45 minutest to burn a full disk at 1.2-1.8x... so u see the frustration?


I was just wondering if any1 here has experience with the newer SATA optical drives and if there are good firmware hackable ones and such for stuff like bitsetting etc.....


-JR

btw thanks for the responses so far...
 
Originally posted by: JackRipper
Originally posted by: bob4432
op - you only have a few options, a plextor and i think a pioneeer?? personally i would go pata if you can and pick up a pioneer 111d
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I have like 8 IDE burners leftover from a duplicator that i am going to upgrade...
since the Nec 3550's on there suck ass... the 3520's were much better. The thing is on the new Dell 9200's there are no IDE ports so I installed an older IDE card that I had laying around and this is what happened

frustrated lack of IDE support.... wtfbbqgrrrzzzzzzz!!?!?!!

^^^ so instead of living with frusteration until some1 on the net figures it out... I think i might have to get a SATA drive...

Such a pity that Intel chipset won't support IDE in the future... its hard enough as it is trying to configure addon cards correctly in windows xp... I seriously think my drives are all going in PIO mode... takes forever to xfer 4 gigs of data from drive to drive (187 minutes lolz) and takes like 28-45 minutest to burn a full disk at 1.2-1.8x... so u see the frustration?


I was just wondering if any1 here has experience with the newer SATA optical drives and if there are good firmware hackable ones and such for stuff like bitsetting etc.....


-JR

btw thanks for the responses so far...
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there is a site, but i can't think of the exact name - something like rpc1.org - also maybe check out cdfreaks.com
 
Originally posted by: JackRipper
Originally posted by: bob4432
op - you only have a few options, a plextor and i think a pioneeer?? personally i would go pata if you can and pick up a pioneer 111d
Click to expand...

I have like 8 IDE burners leftover from a duplicator that i am going to upgrade...
since the Nec 3550's on there suck ass... the 3520's were much better. The thing is on the new Dell 9200's there are no IDE ports so I installed an older IDE card that I had laying around and this is what happened

frustrated lack of IDE support.... wtfbbqgrrrzzzzzzz!!?!?!!
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Why is that? I was under the impression that pretty much all the NEC burners were quality drives. When I did research on my last one, there were a lot of people that were happy with the 3550s. Just wondering what kind of problems you had. 🙂
 
Yeah, the SATA DVD burner choices have really expanded lately. All of them have reasonable reviews, so I'd go with the Lite-On. I can personally say that the Plextor works really well, though.
 
Originally posted by: Imyourzero
Originally posted by: JackRipper
Originally posted by: bob4432
op - you only have a few options, a plextor and i think a pioneeer?? personally i would go pata if you can and pick up a pioneer 111d
Click to expand...

I have like 8 IDE burners leftover from a duplicator that i am going to upgrade...
since the Nec 3550's on there suck ass... the 3520's were much better. The thing is on the new Dell 9200's there are no IDE ports so I installed an older IDE card that I had laying around and this is what happened

frustrated lack of IDE support.... wtfbbqgrrrzzzzzzz!!?!?!!
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Why is that? I was under the impression that pretty much all the NEC burners were quality drives. When I did research on my last one, there were a lot of people that were happy with the 3550s. Just wondering what kind of problems you had. 🙂
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loud noises
coasters (especially with the duplicators)
shorter life spans


i had to replace like 6 out of 8 of the 3540's and 3550's... the 3520's were good to go tho...


 
Originally posted by: Imyourzero
Originally posted by: bob4432
i just wonder why such a fast move to sata - it just doesn't make sense
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For optical drives, or in general?
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either. ata5/6 isn't saturated and won't be for some time and the ncq implementations are not near what scsi is. maybe i am wrong but i would guess big business would go sas over sata any day because they are true enterprise drives meant for 24/7/365/multiple year drives

on paper it all sounds good but in reality it is nothing special - hell, we still have floppy connectors on just about every m/b, why not leave pata support for 2 ide connectors, they don't take up that much space on a board nor use much bandwidth...
 
Originally posted by: bob4432
Originally posted by: Imyourzero
Originally posted by: bob4432
i just wonder why such a fast move to sata - it just doesn't make sense
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For optical drives, or in general?
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either. ata5/6 isn't saturated and won't be for some time and the ncq implementations are not near what scsi is. maybe i am wrong but i would guess big business would go sas over sata any day because they are true enterprise drives meant for 24/7/365/multiple year drives

on paper it all sounds good but in reality it is nothing special - hell, we still have floppy connectors on just about every m/b, why not leave pata support for 2 ide connectors, they don't take up that much space on a board nor use much bandwidth...
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i completely agree... even the new dell mobo's w/ no ide have floppy connectors... the jacked up thing is I have like 6 sata ports on the mobo yet only 2 x 3.5 bays and 2 x 5.25 bays... whats the point?

JR

 
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