What's 8+5?

[Markbnj]

And in African American neighborhoods, parents who don't really give a rats ass if the kid even shows up for school to begin with.

Come on, dude. Tell me you really don't understand why this is a dick thing to say. Tell me you really don't get why stereotyping people by race is an ugly thing to do. Do you not have sufficient imagination to conceive of a single hard-working parent in such a neighborhood, doing everything they can to keep their kid on track, who might stumble across this ignorant line of text?

 

[BUTCH1]

Come on, dude. Tell me you really don't understand why this is a dick thing to say. Tell me you really don't get why stereotyping people by race is an ugly thing to do. Do you not have sufficient imagination to conceive of a single hard-working parent in such a neighborhood, doing everything they can to keep their kid on track, who might stumble across this ignorant line of text?

Yea, hate for hate's sake, sadly it's the hallmark of an empty soul..

 

[videogames101]

13 and nobody gives shit how you added 8+5, turns out that in the end your method for adding 8+5 doesn't matter ever, just pick a method and teach it because it doesn't fvcking matter which one you use

 

[Maximilian]

8 + 5 = 10... yeah im pretty skeptical about that one :hmm:

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

57 - 42 = 15
100 -15 = 85

 

[dank69]

Facebook reshares are the best source for quality information.

 

[natto fire]

Facebook reshares are the best source for quality information.

And bonus points for the "Family Guy" avatar. To quote moron OP's avatar: "so fresh"

 

[SSSnail]

And you teach from time to time?

Good thing he's "teaching" in a third world country.

 

[ThinClient]

8+5=

If you said 13 you would be wrong!

Doing it the Common Core way...

8- you take away 3 to make it 5

Now, you can add 5+5= 10

So 8+5= 10, not 13

This is not what common core teaches. Common core does not teach that 8+5 is 10.

 

[slugg]

Jesus Christ, you just dropped the collective IQ of anandtech by about 10 points.

HERE is the reason they give it to you that way.

If I give you two numbers, say 366 and 729, most people who do it in their head will do this:

300 + 700 = 1000
66+29 = 95

1000+95 = 1095.

Some people in their head may do it a step further, and say 60+20 = 80 and 9+6= 15, then add those together.

What they DON'T do in their head, is line them up and carry the ones, etc. So we teach kids to do math on paper by carrying the ones, etc, but people who do it in their head do it a whole lot faster and learn the tricks on how to add that way.

That's what common core is trying to teach.

While I may not agree with common core, there are a whole lot of jackasses like yourself spreading mis-information that's it become as bad as the fucking climate debate. People are choosing positions without even understanding it.

Go back to wherever you cam from, Mayne.

I DO start with the lowest radix, perform the addition, and handle te carry to the next radix in my head. So what, are you calling me an idiot?

Yes, some rote memory is a good thing. What's next - are we going to prohibit kids from memorizing the English alphabet?

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Where are you guys getting that there's a "common core way?" Common core is just standards (expected outcomes) - how teachers get there from here is still up to them and their schools.

 

[sourceninja]

According to this site, average is about $43k overall...

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/All_K-12_Teachers/Salary

I consider that decent money if you like the work. There's other benefits/detriments, but I think they more or less equal out.

So if my wife and I were both teachers with average salaries, our combined income would just barely make the bills (ok that's not entirely true, it would barely make our standard of living). Compared to the job I got by sitting on my ass and playing with a computer instead of racing cars with my friends?

Yea, you would have to really love it, because I just don't understand why anyone would pay tens of thousands to a college for a chance at 40k.

 

[pontifex]

Jesus fuck, you're stupid.

8+5 is still 13 the "Common Core way." They just teach you different ways to get there.

I don't know where you're getting this 8 + 5 = 10 bullshit, but I've seen this picture making the rounds: http://youngcons.com/this-kid-sticks-it-to-common-core-big-time-when-he-answered-this-math-problem/

Children are taught that when you're adding 8 + 5, you can break it down to 8 + 2 = 10, and 10 + 3 = 13 (and obviously, 2 + 3 = 5). There are good reasons for doing this. 1. We have an easier time doing math with round numbers. 2. It demonstrates the relationship between different place values of numbers.

The old way of teaching math was rote memorization and recitation of procedures. The new way teaches kids to understand what's happening behind the scenes before teaching the most efficient way to do mathematical operations. These kids aren't going to do 8+5 this way for the rest of their life, they're being taught this way so they understand why 8+5=13.

"That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard" said every Teabagger everywhere.

Do this in your head: 142 - 57

Did you:
1. "Borrow" 1 from the 4 in 142, then subtract 7 from 12 and 5 from 13, placing the first result in the ones place and the second result in the tens place.
2. Add 42 + 43
3. 100 - (57 - 42)

If you picked 1, congratulations! You learned math exactly the way it has been taught for decades. It's kind of a stupid way to do math when you look at it though, isn't it?

If you picked 2, you did it the Common Core way. You probably weren't taught to do it that way, you just figured it out and realized how much easier it is than option 1.

If you picked 3, you've demonstrated an understanding of numbers that the Common Core tries to teach.

Math has always come easy to me. When I see people complaining about Common Core math on the Internet, it's usually stupid people following memorized procedures who have no understanding of math. I see the way math is being taught, and it's the way I've always understood math without being taught it. If these methods help kids understand math half as well as I did, they'll be kicking ass when they get to high school.

That photo... Makes sense to me. Its like those awful “a train leaves... “ questions. They arent asking you what 8+5 is, they are asking how can you make 10 out of the numbers 8 and 5? There are multiple correct answers to that. Think of it like asking how can you build a computer using a cpu and memory?

That said, had i seen the question before reading this thread or not knowing any other info, i would have said wtf?

 

[MongGrel]

I'm still saying WTF myself, and that was even over reading it when it was posted.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

8+5=

If you said 13 you would be wrong!

Doing it the Common Core way...

8- you take away 3 to make it 5

Now, you can add 5+5= 10

So 8+5= 10, not 13

Only a idiot (i.e. you) could find a way to screw up adding two one-digit numbers.

 

[Howard]

Go back to Thailand.

 

[Ruptga]

Go back to Thailand.

He came back? I don't actually mind him that much, this thread being something of an exception. He's mostly harmless.

Besides, there's internet in Thailand so I don't know what you think that'd accomplish.

 

[her209]

Sounds like the OP could use some of that Common Core himself or herself.

 

[alkemyst]

Epic Fail in Aisle 1

 

[doubledeluxe]

At my university they were recruiting undergrads aggressively to teach at the local community colleges and maybe a high school or two. Math, physics, chemistry, biology, astronomy, and engineering graduates. Starting pay was in the mid $20k range. Not even enough to cover the bills. This was before the economy tanked too so 6 figure jibs were not that hard to get. Maybe not starting but after your first year definitely.

I tutor math occasionally and one of the more interesting parts for me is how differently people calculate the same problems. There can be six different ways to get to the same answer. With that said I'm fine with the methodology above (not the op obviously).

 

[CraKaJaX]

This was a good thread to open first thing this morning at work. I believe this sums it up quite well:

Jesus fuck, you're stupid.

 

[z1ggy]

Naer + Mayne = Mai72

eh not sure if it's that simple. I think Mai shows more Mayne tendencies than Naer ones. Might be like:

Naer + Mayne^2 = Mai72

 

[WaTaGuMp]

I have one of those calculator things, I pressed the 8, then the +, then the 5, then the =. It even said 13, so fuck off.

 

[KentState]

Come on, dude. Tell me you really don't understand why this is a dick thing to say. Tell me you really don't get why stereotyping people by race is an ugly thing to do. Do you not have sufficient imagination to conceive of a single hard-working parent in such a neighborhood, doing everything they can to keep their kid on track, who might stumble across this ignorant line of text?

It's such a mixed bag, but there are some pretty common observations that you can make with certain schools districts. My wife has taught in both a predominantly wealthy/white school system and a mostly Hispanic one. The first type has a lot of helicopter parents that like to blame the teachers/school before they would be critical of their child. The later, feel that it's a privilege that their child is able to get an education and will side with the teachers. She has had opportunities to change districts, but I think she puts up with the longer drive because it's actually a better experience.

On the flip side, some of the predominantly black schools in Atlanta are facing issues with parental involvement. Some administrators and school board members are throwing out the idea of excluding parents from graduation unless they become more involved with their children. This isn't some random poster on ATOT making this stereotype, but rather black individuals from the same communities.

 

[IronWing]

I have one of those calculator things, I pressed the 8, then the +, then the 5, then the =. It even said 13, so fuck off.

If your calculator has an equals button you're doing it wrong.