What'd I break on my car?

TrueBlueLS

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Okay, I went down to Milan last night to try and get better timeslips for my car. As I went to launch my car from a 3 grand dump, I got nothing but tire spin due to Milan's conditions. I wasn't thinking straight and didn't let up off the gas and shifted into 2nd when I saw 6 grand on my tach. After passing the timing boards and slowing down, I noticed a thud in my front end. The car didn't do it again until I reached the spot to get my timeslip. I left Milan and came back home not too long after that. Tonight while I was at work, I was in the back driving trying to figure out what I did. While making a full circle, I noticed a noise in the front end. After work, I had done the same thing to try and get a better feel of the sound to describe it, but I got a weird grinding noise when the wheel was turned all the way. Does anyone have a clue what I broke?
 

Heisenberg

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I'm not sure, but it doesn't sound good. First guess could be CV joint, but clutch or tranny is a possibility. If that's the car in your sig, I wouldn't be doing 3 grand clutch dumps with it. Cavalier's aren't made for that kind of thing.
 

TrueBlueLS

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Originally posted by: notfred
To diagnose this problem I'll need to hear your best ET and MPH.

Let's just say I'm still working on my 60 foot times... It's killing me when I can't get it to nail a launch and run a 17.243, but someone else can run a 15.9 with the same setup.
 

TrueBlueLS

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Tell me about it... I'm just trying to figure out what I'm going to tell them when I go into the dealer Tuesday. I just don't know if hitting a pothole would destroy a CV joint if that's what it is. I doubt it's the clutch or trans because I would have noticed something with that on the way home. Well... I guess unless it's a mount. It was weird because of the nature it wouldn't make the first noise every circle. It was like every 2nd or 3rd time around. Let's hope my warranty covers it.
 

ohtwell

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My 1998 Cavlier makes a creaking sound when I turn the wheel at slow speeds. I wonder if it's caused by the same thing?


: ) Amanda
 

toph99

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Originally posted by: AMDStunna
Originally posted by: notfred
To diagnose this problem I'll need to hear your best ET and MPH.

Let's just say I'm still working on my 60 foot times... It's killing me when I can't get it to nail a launch and run a 17.243, but someone else can run a 15.9 with the same setup.

i doubt that the 15.9 was in a stock cavalier. especially with 17.7lbs/hp. check the tranny for broken mounts, that could explain the clunking sound, although i doubt the 2.2 has the torque to break a mount, unless it was defective
 

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Originally posted by: ohtwell
My 1998 Cavlier makes a creaking sound when I turn the wheel at slow speeds. I wonder if it's caused by the same thing?


: ) Amanda

probably the steering pump working hard because the tire isn't rolling enough to keep the friction low.
 

TrueBlueLS

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Originally posted by: toph99
Originally posted by: AMDStunna
Originally posted by: notfred
To diagnose this problem I'll need to hear your best ET and MPH.

Let's just say I'm still working on my 60 foot times... It's killing me when I can't get it to nail a launch and run a 17.243, but someone else can run a 15.9 with the same setup.

you aren't going to run a 15.9 in a stock cavalier, no way, no how.

I wouldn't be too sure about that. There's people driving Z24 Cavaliers (the equivalent of the LS Sport Coupe +10HP) that are running 15.3-15.7 quarter miles stock. Maybe you're thinking of the base model with the 115 HP 2.2 OHV engine.
 

Salvador

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sounds like a cv joint to me.
That's my guess without seeing the car.
My 1998 Cavlier makes a creaking sound when I turn the wheel at slow speeds. I wonder if it's caused by the same thing?
That's because it's a Cavalier. ;) Seriously, it could be a number of things including a bad suspension part like a tie rod end, strut tie bar end, etc.. Or a steering rack. Take it to a shop and have them put it in the air and check for looseness.

Sal
 

ohtwell

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: ohtwell
My 1998 Cavlier makes a creaking sound when I turn the wheel at slow speeds. I wonder if it's caused by the same thing?


: ) Amanda

probably the steering pump working hard because the tire isn't rolling enough to keep the friction low.

Hmmm. I thought about that but the noise is different. I know the steering pump noise when I hear it. I don't even have to turn the wheel very hard for it to start.


: ) Amanda
 

ohtwell

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Originally posted by: Salvador
sounds like a cv joint to me.
That's my guess without seeing the car.
My 1998 Cavlier makes a creaking sound when I turn the wheel at slow speeds. I wonder if it's caused by the same thing?
That's because it's a Cavalier. ;) Seriously, it could be a number of things including a bad suspension part like a tie rod end, strut tie bar end, etc.. Or a steering rack. Take it to a shop and have them put it in the air and check for looseness.

Sal

I might have to do that. I just don't want it to be something too expensive. It isn't really getting any worse either. I notice every single noise my car makes.


: ) Amanda
 

N8Magic

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Originally posted by: ohtwell
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: ohtwell
My 1998 Cavlier makes a creaking sound when I turn the wheel at slow speeds. I wonder if it's caused by the same thing?


: ) Amanda

probably the steering pump working hard because the tire isn't rolling enough to keep the friction low.

Hmmm. I thought about that but the noise is different. I know the steering pump noise when I hear it. I don't even have to turn the wheel very hard for it to start.


: ) Amanda
Is it kind of a crunching/pinging sound?
 

ohtwell

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Originally posted by: N8Magic
Originally posted by: ohtwell
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: ohtwell
My 1998 Cavlier makes a creaking sound when I turn the wheel at slow speeds. I wonder if it's caused by the same thing?


: ) Amanda

probably the steering pump working hard because the tire isn't rolling enough to keep the friction low.

Hmmm. I thought about that but the noise is different. I know the steering pump noise when I hear it. I don't even have to turn the wheel very hard for it to start.


: ) Amanda
Is it kind of a crunching/pinging sound?

It's so hard to explain.

It's not those. Those would suggest CV joints but I don't think that's it because it doesn't happen when I turn the wheel at a speed over 40.


: ) Amanda
 

ohtwell

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It reminds me of the noise a rubber band makes when as you stretch it really taut.

Does that help?


: ) Amanda
 

N8Magic

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Originally posted by: ohtwell
It reminds me of the noise a rubber band makes when as you stretch it really taut.

Does that help?

: ) Amanda

I'm impressed that you know what a bad CV joint sounds like! :)

As for the rubber band sound, nothing is coming to mind right now... hmm.


 

Heisenberg

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: AMDStunna
Originally posted by: notfred
so, 17.24. I'll race you for $100. :)

Not unless I get a better 60 foot time than 2.478 seconds. By the way... what do you have?

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Hmm...if it wasn't for that supercharger I'd run against you. I plan to get one in a while but first I've got some more intake mods to do and then there's the issue of the 3 grand they cost.
 

toph99

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Originally posted by: ohtwell
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: ohtwell
My 1998 Cavlier makes a creaking sound when I turn the wheel at slow speeds. I wonder if it's caused by the same thing?


: ) Amanda

probably the steering pump working hard because the tire isn't rolling enough to keep the friction low.

Hmmm. I thought about that but the noise is different. I know the steering pump noise when I hear it. I don't even have to turn the wheel very hard for it to start.


: ) Amanda


do you have the 2.2 or 2.4L? is the power steering pump running off of the intake cam(instead off off of the belt) because i have a 2.4L in my alero and i swear it's the noisiest power steering pump i have ever heard. it groans at every movement, and makes the engine drop a few hundred rpm at idle to move the wheel. giant POS.
 

ohtwell

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Originally posted by: N8Magic
Originally posted by: ohtwell
It reminds me of the noise a rubber band makes when as you stretch it really taut.

Does that help?

: ) Amanda

I'm impressed that you know what a bad CV joint sounds like! :)

As for the rubber band sound, nothing is coming to mind right now... hmm.

I know a little about cars. Everything went wrong with my 91 Cavalier so I started to learn what some sounds meant.

This one baffles me though. I thought CV joints too but the noise is different.


: ) Amanda
 

TrueBlueLS

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: AMDStunna
Originally posted by: notfred
so, 17.24. I'll race you for $100. :)

Not unless I get a better 60 foot time than 2.478 seconds. By the way... what do you have?

pic#0 pic#1 pic#2 pic#3

Can I have a 100 shot before I even challenge you? I'd get toasted by a 5.0. Nah, no nitrous or fart cans for my car... It's going to be all motor (intake, throttle body, header, underdrive pulley, 3 angle heads) before I can boost it.