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Whataburger was robbed while i was there for lunch today...

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Originally posted by: jumpr
That meshes well with criminological theory. Most scholars look at robbery (especially if it's planned, as this one clearly was) as a transaction between the robbers and the victim. They're there for one thing - to get the money - and they'd much rather leave with money and no shots fired, rather than shooting someone. Robbers usually are NOT violent criminals...they're only after money.

And, armed robberies are MUCH LESS likely to result in injury than strong-arm (unarmed) robberies. This is presumably b/c the victim thinks they can fight back against an unarmed robber, and the robber basically tears them a new one.
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Agreed. That's the same content that was covered in one of my CJ classes in college. Don't be an idiot, and chances are they will just grab the money and go. That's what they came for. If they came to shoot people, they would have done that first.
 
:shocked:

thankfully my little pyonireee is OK:heart:

those douches!!!!!!:| no one fvcks around with lunch!!!!
 
I would be VERY afraid. People that are stupid enough to rob a fast food place AND have guns are a MAJOR HAZARD TO YOUR HEALTH!!!!!!!!!! :Q
I mean... a fast food place for gavds sake. Damn...

Glad you're ok!
 
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: OrByte
this place is called whataburger?

as in.... "whatsa in this burger?!?!"

glad you didnt get hurt bud.
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don't knock it, it's the slowest fast food you can buy
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Fixed, and with that being said its still good.
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They're always quick when i'm there. Faster than JITB or Burger King.
 
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: rh71
how did you feel after they pulled out the guns ? You realized you're stuck... then what ? Were you sh!tting your pants or did you feel like nothing bad will happen to you anyway and you just needed to wait it out ? I've thought about how I would react ... and well... I'm not bulletproof so there ya go.
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I was just telling someone here in the office about this. It's weird. I saw what was happening, made eye contact with one of the guys robbing the place, and just looked down and waited. They didn't scream or yell or anything and were pretty quiet about it. I felt pretty calm actually....like it was just a transaction that was taking place, and they would leave as soon as it was over.

now if they had been screaming at everyone and waving the guns around...i don't know. But, for me, i didn't get a feeling of urgency or fright...just "stay calm and they'll be out of here".
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That meshes well with criminological theory. Most scholars look at robbery (especially if it's planned, as this one clearly was) as a transaction between the robbers and the victim. They're there for one thing - to get the money - and they'd much rather leave with money and no shots fired, rather than shooting someone. Robbers usually are NOT violent criminals...they're only after money.

And, armed robberies are MUCH LESS likely to result in injury than strong-arm (unarmed) robberies. This is presumably b/c the victim thinks they can fight back against an unarmed robber, and the robber basically tears them a new one.
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Of course had someone behind them been armed (AZ is shall issue) the outcome would have been totally different. And the surveillance video would be much more entertaining. 🙂

Support concealed carry for gene pool cleansing if no other reason.

Too bad it didn't work out today.

Viper GTS
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: rh71
how did you feel after they pulled out the guns ? You realized you're stuck... then what ? Were you sh!tting your pants or did you feel like nothing bad will happen to you anyway and you just needed to wait it out ? I've thought about how I would react ... and well... I'm not bulletproof so there ya go.
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I was just telling someone here in the office about this. It's weird. I saw what was happening, made eye contact with one of the guys robbing the place, and just looked down and waited. They didn't scream or yell or anything and were pretty quiet about it. I felt pretty calm actually....like it was just a transaction that was taking place, and they would leave as soon as it was over.

now if they had been screaming at everyone and waving the guns around...i don't know. But, for me, i didn't get a feeling of urgency or fright...just "stay calm and they'll be out of here".
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That meshes well with criminological theory. Most scholars look at robbery (especially if it's planned, as this one clearly was) as a transaction between the robbers and the victim. They're there for one thing - to get the money - and they'd much rather leave with money and no shots fired, rather than shooting someone. Robbers usually are NOT violent criminals...they're only after money.

And, armed robberies are MUCH LESS likely to result in injury than strong-arm (unarmed) robberies. This is presumably b/c the victim thinks they can fight back against an unarmed robber, and the robber basically tears them a new one.
Click to expand...

Of course had someone behind them been armed (AZ is shall issue) the outcome would have been totally different. And the surveillance video would be much more entertaining. 🙂

Support concealed carry for gene pool cleansing if no other reason.

Too bad it didn't work out today.

Viper GTS
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If I can remember Arizona's law correctly, I believe you can carry unconcealed without a permit.

If I'm wrong on that, Arizona still has pretty lax gun laws. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: rh71
how did you feel after they pulled out the guns ? You realized you're stuck... then what ? Were you sh!tting your pants or did you feel like nothing bad will happen to you anyway and you just needed to wait it out ? I've thought about how I would react ... and well... I'm not bulletproof so there ya go.
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I was just telling someone here in the office about this. It's weird. I saw what was happening, made eye contact with one of the guys robbing the place, and just looked down and waited. They didn't scream or yell or anything and were pretty quiet about it. I felt pretty calm actually....like it was just a transaction that was taking place, and they would leave as soon as it was over.

now if they had been screaming at everyone and waving the guns around...i don't know. But, for me, i didn't get a feeling of urgency or fright...just "stay calm and they'll be out of here".
Click to expand...
That meshes well with criminological theory. Most scholars look at robbery (especially if it's planned, as this one clearly was) as a transaction between the robbers and the victim. They're there for one thing - to get the money - and they'd much rather leave with money and no shots fired, rather than shooting someone. Robbers usually are NOT violent criminals...they're only after money.

And, armed robberies are MUCH LESS likely to result in injury than strong-arm (unarmed) robberies. This is presumably b/c the victim thinks they can fight back against an unarmed robber, and the robber basically tears them a new one.
Click to expand...

Of course had someone behind them been armed (AZ is shall issue) the outcome would have been totally different. And the surveillance video would be much more entertaining. 🙂

Support concealed carry for gene pool cleansing if no other reason.

Too bad it didn't work out today.

Viper GTS
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I'm not sure that anyone would have tried to kill them if they had a ccw. Considering that there were 2 gunmen, the rist to bystanders would have been very high. Plus, the way the place is layed out (i'm assuming) would required you to get over to the side and shoot from there to minimize the risk of the bullets traveling through the gunmen and into the cashier.
 
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: rh71
how did you feel after they pulled out the guns ? You realized you're stuck... then what ? Were you sh!tting your pants or did you feel like nothing bad will happen to you anyway and you just needed to wait it out ? I've thought about how I would react ... and well... I'm not bulletproof so there ya go.
Click to expand...

I was just telling someone here in the office about this. It's weird. I saw what was happening, made eye contact with one of the guys robbing the place, and just looked down and waited. They didn't scream or yell or anything and were pretty quiet about it. I felt pretty calm actually....like it was just a transaction that was taking place, and they would leave as soon as it was over.

now if they had been screaming at everyone and waving the guns around...i don't know. But, for me, i didn't get a feeling of urgency or fright...just "stay calm and they'll be out of here".
Click to expand...
That meshes well with criminological theory. Most scholars look at robbery (especially if it's planned, as this one clearly was) as a transaction between the robbers and the victim. They're there for one thing - to get the money - and they'd much rather leave with money and no shots fired, rather than shooting someone. Robbers usually are NOT violent criminals...they're only after money.

And, armed robberies are MUCH LESS likely to result in injury than strong-arm (unarmed) robberies. This is presumably b/c the victim thinks they can fight back against an unarmed robber, and the robber basically tears them a new one.
Click to expand...

Of course had someone behind them been armed (AZ is shall issue) the outcome would have been totally different. And the surveillance video would be much more entertaining. 🙂

Support concealed carry for gene pool cleansing if no other reason.

Too bad it didn't work out today.

Viper GTS
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If I can remember Arizona's law correctly, I believe you can carry unconcealed without a permit.

If I'm wrong on that, Arizona still has pretty lax gun laws. 🙂
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You can carry unconcealed without a permit.

 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: OrByte
this place is called whataburger?

as in.... "whatsa in this burger?!?!"

glad you didnt get hurt bud.
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don't knock it, it's the best fast food you can buy
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:thumbsup: Pretty good hamburgers for fast food, and it's actually made to order... Want a fried chicken sandwitch? Get ready to wait for them to cook a fresh one.

Actually, I know what I'm having for dinner now, thanks!
 
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: OrByte
this place is called whataburger?

as in.... "whatsa in this burger?!?!"

glad you didnt get hurt bud.
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don't knock it, it's the best fast food you can buy
Click to expand...

:thumbsup: Pretty good hamburgers for fast food, and it's actually made to order... Want a fried chicken sandwitch? Get ready to wait for them to cook a fresh one.

Actually, I know what I'm having for dinner now, thanks!
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The one on 35th and Bethany is probably the safest in the city! Go there! 😛
 
Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: halik
who robs a fast food place?
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Apparently two guys that needed a minimal amount of cash. 😉
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FYI, those places carry thousands of dollars in cash. Even at 11AM they would have had a bit, especially if they hadn't made their drop from the night before (happens a lot more than you think).

You just have to get the safe open, not the registers. 😀

Originally posted by: pyonir
The one on 35th and Bethany is probably the safest in the city! Go there! 😛
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Total Est. Time: 16 hours, 31 minutes Total Est. Distance: 1044.18 miles

On my way! Wanna meet for, lunch tomorrow, about 11AM? 😀
 
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: halik
who robs a fast food place?
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Apparently two guys that needed a minimal amount of cash. 😉
Click to expand...

FYI, those places carry thousands of dollars in cash. Even at 11AM they would have had a bit, especially if they hadn't made their drop from the night before (happens a lot more than you think).

You just have to get the safe open, not the registers. 😀

Originally posted by: pyonir
The one on 35th and Bethany is probably the safest in the city! Go there! 😛
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Total Est. Time: 16 hours, 31 minutes Total Est. Distance: 1044.18 miles

On my way! Wanna meet for, lunch tomorrow, about 11AM? 😀
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LMAO....11am works for me! 😛

Yeah, they didn't go for the safe, only what was in the one register.
 
back in high school during the summer i worked 3rd shift at a grocery store and one night a guy came in the store with a hankerchief over his mouth, showed the manager a gun in his pants, then gathered me and another employee and put us in the dairy cooler. we were there for an hour then busted out (robber put a pallet of dog food in front of the door). this was life in the small city (lynchburg, VA)
 
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