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What would you do in this situation? Gf related.

BD2003

Lifer
Some background needed to understand:

Me and my GF have been going out for about a year and a half. From day one, before we were even going out, her mother has never liked me. Because I'm not rich enough, I dont have a car, I'm basically not good enough for her daughter in any way. She thinks I lead a secret life, etc etc...Granted she was going through a divorce at the same time and wasnt too happy with our entire gender I'm sure, but it doesnt change the fact that she has never considered me a person, only a number. I've been criticized to my gf from her for not being amibitious enough, from not coming from a good enough family, etc. You name it. But face to face, its always smiles. But overall, she is a VERY critical person, even to my GF.

I'm 24, she's 20. I've long since moved out from my old apt where I grew up. I was born poor and Ive managed to bring myself squarely into the middle class solely on my own. I'm the child of a housepainter and a secretary. Both of her parents are pharmacists, live in a huge house, I could even play football in her backyard. I grew up in a family of four in a one bedroom apt in the middle of flushing, queens, which is quite possibly one of the most disgusting places in the universe.

Because I'm a city boy, and I live in such an urban area, I dont need a car, not to mention rent and general cost of living around here is so sky high that a car is quite simply a luxury, and since everything is walked to, and theres nowhere to park, its nowhere near a necessity. Where she lives, you are absolutely stranded and isolated without one. She used to have a car herself, till it got wrecked by some dick that cut her off on the drive back from my place.

Ive long since graduated, but she's still in college. So right now, she's currently on her winter break. I havent even had a chance to see her since she gets back.

I really, really, really want to see her. But I quite simply can't swallow my pride anymore by going to see her in LI. Every time I have to be in her house with her mother around I feel like 3/5ths of a person. Ive been discriminated against for being poor quite often when I was a kid, but I thought those times were over, since I'm not even close to poor anymore. But her mom still thinks I'm some sort of brokeass.

Therefore, I absolutely refuse to belittle myself, and at the same time reinforce the false stereotype that I'm a broke ass, by going there and having her borrow her moms car so we can do anything but sit under parental supervision. She's made previous comments on how she wished she never bought my gf her car, because all she does is chauffer me around, when I have never, not even ONCE, asked her to drive me anywhere.

She expects me to come one of these days, but right now Im just stalling. Its also a 3 hour trip each way for me to go see her, so that would be 6 hours of the day on the train. I absolutely can not sleep over.

Basically I have three choices, and I lose either way..

1) I can suck it up, go to her place, feel like a teenager again, and sit there all the while have her mom and grandmother think about what a loser I am because I dont have a car. Even if I am getting one in a month or two, I really dont want to show up there again until I do have one.

2) I can have her come here to my own apt, which she probably wouldnt be allowed to do anyway. But in that case, I wouldnt be the gentleman, perfect knight in shining armor, and I lose brownie points just the same.

3) I can tell her that basically, we cant see each other until she gets back to school on the 16th. Then I'm the uncaring boyfriend to her, and her mom is only going to think even more that I have a secret life.

Is there any way I can actually find something positive in this situation? I really love my GF to death, from the bottom of my heart, but I just cant deal with her mom anymore. Even if her attitude has improved lately since the divorce, I will never forget until the day I die how I was treated like a potential bank account at first, and then a dirtbag who is going to drag her daughter down from the upper middle class, etc etc

Cliff notes:
1) Her mom thinks I suck in every way
2) Shes still in college on winter vacation and we want to see each other
3) I cant deal with the ego blow anymore of going to her house
4) Wtf can I do?

NO PICS! Dont even ask.

Geez, I feel like I'm stuck in meet the parents. I'm nothing but a good bf to her, I treat her with the utmost love and respect, but I just can't win when it comes to her parents. Not to mention I live in the city and she's a rich girl from long island. 😛
 
Originally posted by: z0mb13
rich girl from long island??

SCORE!!

buy a car!! its an investment if u think about it

😀😀

I'm getting on in march. $500 a month car insurance is NOT an investment, its anal rape.
 
And for the record, I couldnt care less how much money she or her parents have. I love her for her, and nothing else. If anything, dating a rich girl is worse, because the expectations for you are only going to be higher.
 
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: z0mb13
rich girl from long island??

SCORE!!

buy a car!! its an investment if u think about it

😀😀

I'm getting on in march. $500 a month car insurance is NOT an investment, its anal rape.

if buying a car == geting rich girl from long island

thats an investment from my perspective
😀😀

 
if you love her you can handle being uncomfortable for a few hours

also, PICS (you are not allowed to say no pics, sorry)

we give advice, you give pics of REAL LIFES GIRLEZ
 
Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
if you love her you can handle being uncomfortable for a few hours

also, PICS (you are not allowed to say no pics, sorry)

we give advice, you give pics of REAL LIFES GIRLEZ

#1 No pics. I have seniority like that. End of story.

I've done it every single time she's asked me to at this point. If she loves me, she'll understand why I cant do it anymore.



 
Visit her.

Visit her for her. She's the reason you're visiting, not the parents.

By going, you make the statement that you two ARE still together. Her parents do realize that you aren't a poor SOB anymore, and they're pissed about the chance that they could be wrong.

Most importantly: She's 20. College will be over in, what, two years? She's even halfway through a Bachelor's now. Her parents really shouldn't have thatmuch influence over her, and when she's graduated, she won't be living with them. She will be happy with a guy that pulled himself out of the hole he was in.

Ironically, the high expectations of her parents may have even helped you to get out of your hole.
 
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
if you love her you can handle being uncomfortable for a few hours

also, PICS (you are not allowed to say no pics, sorry)

we give advice, you give pics of REAL LIFES GIRLEZ

#1 No pics. I have seniority like that. End of story.

I've done it every single time she's asked me to at this point. If she loves me, she'll understand why I cant do it anymore.
Girls dont "understand". All she hears is that there is something more important than seeing her. There is no logic, no reasoning. Definitely ask her to come to your place. Explain how you feel. But in the end, you gotta suck it up.

Also, PICS, or its official you are dating an ugly biatch!
 
If you intend to have a long-term relationship with this girl, you'd better get comfortable with her family. Regardless of what might be said in the passion of a moment, her mother, father, etc. all will continue to be a part of her life. If you want to be a part of her life too, then you'd better suck it up and make room in your life fro her family too.
 
Originally posted by: cmdrmoocow
Visit her.

Visit her for her. She's the reason you're visiting, not the parents.

By going, you make the statement that you two ARE still together. Her parents do realize that you aren't a poor SOB anymore, and they're pissed about the chance that they could be wrong.

Most importantly: She's 20. College will be over in what, two years? She's even in college now. Her parents really don't(shouldn't) have THAT much influence over her, and when she's out, she will be happy with a guy that pulled himself out of the hole he was in.

Ironically, the high expectations of her parents may have even helped you to get out of your hole.

Her parents had absolutely nothing to do with getting me out of my hole...ive been long out of it before I met her. Her parents STILL think Im a poor SOB, because I dont have a car. Thats why Im so god damn reluctant to go out there, because I'm on the verge of getting one just so I can see her more often. But the fact that I have to have one in order not to be interpreted as a brokeass just plain makes me sick.

I feel like Ive put up with this for so damn long, it cant be too much to ask for a vacation from it just this once.
 
have a sit down chat with the mother. get it all out in the open, then go from there. nothing gets solved when no one can be upfront.

i understand it may be uncomfortable coming from different backgrounds, but you got to get over that if you love this girl. as long as you know your girl loves you, and you two have a good relationship, ignore the mothers judment. also, it seems your girl needs to stand up to her mom. 20yo and shes not allowed to come to your place? wtf?

kudos for bettering yourself. how someone lives and treats others is what really matters, but poverty sucks too. one generation at a time, and youll be the trumps before you know it.

 
Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
if you love her you can handle being uncomfortable for a few hours

also, PICS (you are not allowed to say no pics, sorry)

we give advice, you give pics of REAL LIFES GIRLEZ

#1 No pics. I have seniority like that. End of story.

I've done it every single time she's asked me to at this point. If she loves me, she'll understand why I cant do it anymore.
Girls dont "understand". All she hears is that there is something more important than seeing her. There is no logic, no reasoning. Definitely ask her to come to your place. Explain how you feel. But in the end, you gotta suck it up.

Also, PICS, or its official you are dating an ugly biatch!

She's not ugly by any means, but I'm not going to post her picture on the internet so a bunch of horny virgin nerds can jack off to it. Its an invasion of her privacy for me to do something like that, and Im simply not going to do it.

If you intend to have a long-term relationship with this girl, you'd better get comfortable with her family. Regardless of what might be said in the passion of a moment, her mother, father, etc. all will continue to be a part of her life. If you want to be a part of her life too, then you'd better suck it up and make room in your life fro her family too.

How can I possibly be comfortable with her family when theyve treated me with prejudice from day one? I havent even been given a fair chance to show them that I love her and treat her as well as I possibly can. Besides, that appears to take second stage to how fat my wallet is anyway!
 
Originally posted by: BD2003

How can I possibly be comfortable with her family when theyve treated me with prejudice from day one? I havent even been given a fair chance to show them that I love her and treat her as well as I possibly can. Besides, that appears to take second stage to how fat my wallet is anyway!

let that be thier problem, not yours. maybe once they see thier unfair judgments have no effect on you, they may rethink thier stance.
 
Originally posted by: shimsham
have a sit down chat with the mother. get it all out in the open, then go from there. nothing gets solved when no one can be upfront.

i understand it may be uncomfortable coming from different backgrounds, but you got to get over that if you love this girl. as long as you know your girl loves you, and you two have a good relationship, ignore the mothers judment. also, it seems your girl needs to stand up to her mom. 20yo and shes not allowed to come to your place? wtf?

kudos for bettering yourself. how someone lives and treats others is what really matters, but poverty sucks too. one generation at a time, and youll be the trumps before you know it.

I honestly dont care about her mothers judgement, because I know she doesnt agree with it. But that doesnt make it any easier for me to be in the same room with her.

She does need to stand up to her mom, but she's afraid of her. Shes "allowed" to come to my place, but it only makes her mom dislike me even more because I'm not rolling up there in a benz. She certainly couldnt stay the night.
 
You shouldn't let it bother you. In fact, your gf is probably attracted to you more because of the fact that her mom doesn't like you. Her mom isn't going to make her stop going out with you. As long as you're cordial around her mom, then you can be assured that the issue is with her mom and not you.

The fact that she lives in Bumblefvck makes it tough, but how often do you see her at her place? It seems like it's not very often, so why not rent a car? Oh wait, you're not 25. Well, if there was some way to get a hold of a vehicle, that would be the right thing to do. Otherwise just wait till she gets back to college.

Not saying you need to be a kissass, but you can be cordial around her mom. I bet if you throw a couple HONEST compliments her way, she might change her tone? You can't say it as if you're trying to impress her though. But, like they always say, flattery will get you everywhere.



 
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: shimsham
have a sit down chat with the mother. get it all out in the open, then go from there. nothing gets solved when no one can be upfront.

i understand it may be uncomfortable coming from different backgrounds, but you got to get over that if you love this girl. as long as you know your girl loves you, and you two have a good relationship, ignore the mothers judment. also, it seems your girl needs to stand up to her mom. 20yo and shes not allowed to come to your place? wtf?

kudos for bettering yourself. how someone lives and treats others is what really matters, but poverty sucks too. one generation at a time, and youll be the trumps before you know it.

I honestly dont care about her mothers judgement, because I know she doesnt agree with it. But that doesnt make it any easier for me to be in the same room with her.

She does need to stand up to her mom, but she's afraid of her. Shes "allowed" to come to my place, but it only makes her mom dislike me even more because I'm not rolling up there in a benz. She certainly couldnt stay the night.


sounds like its more trouble than its worth. might be time to re-evaluate the relationship. do want to marry this girl? and if your girl loves you, why isnt she willing to step out so you two can be togehter?

thats hard tho. a lot easier said than done, unfortunatly.
 
Originally posted by: BD2003
Cliff notes:
1) Her mom thinks I suck in every way
2) Shes still in college on winter vacation and we want to see each other
3) I cant deal with the ego blow anymore of going to her house
4) Wtf can I do?

NO PICS! Dont even ask.

Geez, I feel like I'm stuck in meet the parents. I'm nothing but a good bf to her, I treat her with the utmost love and respect, but I just can't win when it comes to her parents. Not to mention I live in the city and she's a rich girl from long island. 😛

Wow! Believe me, BD2003, it's a lost cause when the mother of your gf won't accept you and already has negative impressions of you. In the mean time, out of respect for her, do not even visit her home. Mothers that usually behave this way do not appreciate the guys visiting their homes. However, do visit your gf and have her meet with you elsewhere. As a gesture, ask your gf to extend greetings to her mom.

However, as soon as you can, you should attempt to mend this. There are three ways I could think of:

1. Hope that something drastic happens in your gf's mother's life to make her rethink her relationship with everyone. If something drastic happens, then you'll suddenly see her be too nice to you and accepting.

2. Talk to her daughter about mending her relationship with her mother to the extent of convincing her mom that you're a good guy. Ugh, this one is hopeless!

3. Get creative. Come up with something you could do to win the mother's heart. This is difficult, except if, for example, something beyond her daughter's control happens to her daughter and you prove yourself there (e.g., helping her daughter or rescuing her).

Wow! I would give up on things like these, having witnessed how it ends for many guys whose SOs' mothers didn't accept. It just never seems to work, even when she continues to see him--in spite of her mother's objection. However, if the relationship must continue, then you can only hope for a chance or just spite her mother. The latter is quite a difficult relationship to hold. I'm not sure you want to go that route because it hardly succeeds.

As much as I might love someone, I'm afraid it cannot work when there's no good environment to foster it. And in that case, I would rather save myself from the stress. If it's meant to be, there'll be another chance.... I'm not sure I've made sense, but I wish you good luck!
 
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