What would you do if your kid brought home a gay prince book?

[ClueLis]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: ClueLis

Originally posted by: Nitemare
How bout a Farmer John and his sheep series of books?

I think I'm missing your point... 😕

Edit: You mean relationships between animals?

That would be another sexual preference as would polygamous relationships. When can I expect to see them in children's books?

You might find some old-time mormons who could suppy you with the latter. 😛

Seriously, though, the problem with polygamy I have is not its abstract form (where both men and women form relationships with as amny people as they want), but rather how it is generally applied, which becomes abusive to the women in the marriage.

As for the comment about animals, it would be difficult to argue that the sheep is "consenting" to the relationship.

Originally posted by: Turin39789
His point is that homosexuality is a gateway to more hardcore sexual acts. if we start letting people gay and don't stone them anymore, then of course everyone will become polygamous and start banging sheep....................... IN FRONT OF 6 YEAR OLDS!!!!!! :Q


its the same argument that gets trotted out when you discuss gay marriage

I think his point was a little more rational than that. I think he was saying that if we can discuss two men in love, then what about a man and his ewe, or a man and two women?

 

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[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: ClueLis<br
You might find some old-time mormons who could suppy you with the latter. 😛

Seriously, though, the problem with polygamy I have is not its abstract form (where both men and women form relationships with as amny people as they want), but rather how it is generally applied, which becomes abusive to the women in the marriage.

That's your preference. If everyone is consenting adults, but why can't it be in a kid's book. How about those that choose to mutilate their body...

Some things were never mean't to be in children's books. 2 men finding adventure and starting a "family" is one of them. If you can discriminate against polygamy in kids books, but not against homosexual relationships; then you are a hypocrite....imho

 

[ClueLis]

Originally posted by: Kenazo

Originally posted by: ClueLis

Originally posted by: Kenazo

Here's a clue for you, heterosexuality is also a sexual preference, and it's in the vast majority of childrens' stories.

l2c

Hardly. Let's see our species propogate with out heterosexuality. I see no problem with homosexuality, but you can hardly consider heterosexuality to be a "preference" in the same way homosexuality is.

Everytime you think about sex, do you think "is he/she a good person to propogate my species with?" If not, then the way humans view sexual relations is a little different than such an impersonal stance.

If you care to call homosexuality a preference, I am curious as to your stance on how/why homosexual beh occurs. nature/nurture. If you call it a prefererance it must certainly be a nurture thing. Maybe it's the term I struggle with.

I think it is a little bit of an insuffieciency with the english language. The same feeling that you get when you look at someone who you are attracted to is the same feeling a homosexual gets when they are attracted to you. In that sense it is not a choice but a preference that is ingrained in you, like some one who likes peanut better and another person who prefers marshmellow fluff (*shudders*). Perhaps an experience with one will affect your opinion, but there may be some aspect that you are born with.

If this answer sounds ambiguous, it is. I can't say if it is one or the other, but it is probably a mix. I'm honestly not sure.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Not really. One is moral, the other is not.

Depends on your morals.

Correct. I think the only general group of people I despise more than homosexuals are women who commit murder on their unborn babies.

me too! Plus those darn people who pass judgement and presume to know gods mind.

Fvckers

Ever read the Bible?

 

[ClueLis]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: ClueLis<br
You might find some old-time mormons who could suppy you with the latter. 😛

Seriously, though, the problem with polygamy I have is not its abstract form (where both men and women form relationships with as amny people as they want), but rather how it is generally applied, which becomes abusive to the women in the marriage.

That's your preference. If everyone is consenting adults, but why can't it be in a kid's book. How about those that choose to mutilate their body...

Some things were never mean't to be in children's books. 2 men finding adventure and starting a "family" is one of them. If you can discriminate against polygamy in kids books, but not against homosexual relationships; then you are a hypocrite....imho

I think where I draw the line is the point where something becomes truly harmful. I feel that mormon polygamy is damaging to the women in the marriage, and that they may often be forced into the situation instead of willing participants, but I don't see danger in talking about two men who are in love.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Not really. One is moral, the other is not.

Depends on your morals.

Correct. I think the only general group of people I despise more than homosexuals are women who commit murder on their unborn babies.

What if your best friend revealed to you tomorrow that he was gay? Would he be a different person because those three words came out of his mouth? Has he physically changed to you so that you can no longer associate with him? Would your god strike you down because you have associated and even befriended a homesexual without urging him to become a heterosexual? Would you begin to 'despise' him?

Yes he would be a different person. I would no longer associate with him. I don't have to worry about that problem since I choose my close friends wisely.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: amcdonald

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Not really. One is moral, the other is not.

Depends on your morals.

Correct. I think the only general group of people I despise more than homosexuals are women who commit murder on their unborn babies.

Don't forget the Jews.

I like jewish people.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Sid59
it's Wilmington North Carolina

This wouldnt have happened in Charlotte.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: ClueLis

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: ClueLis<br
You might find some old-time mormons who could suppy you with the latter. 😛

Seriously, though, the problem with polygamy I have is not its abstract form (where both men and women form relationships with as amny people as they want), but rather how it is generally applied, which becomes abusive to the women in the marriage.

That's your preference. If everyone is consenting adults, but why can't it be in a kid's book. How about those that choose to mutilate their body...

Some things were never mean't to be in children's books. 2 men finding adventure and starting a "family" is one of them. If you can discriminate against polygamy in kids books, but not against homosexual relationships; then you are a hypocrite....imho

I think where I draw the line is the point where something becomes truly harmful. I feel that mormon polygamy is damaging to the women in the marriage, and that they may often be forced into the situation instead of willing participants, but I don't see danger in talking about two men who are in love.

Who are you to decide though? I'm sure someone can conduct some survey that shows that members of a polygamous household are happy. Then can we see a children's book about it?

 

[ClueLis]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: ClueLis

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: ClueLis<br
You might find some old-time mormons who could suppy you with the latter. 😛

Seriously, though, the problem with polygamy I have is not its abstract form (where both men and women form relationships with as amny people as they want), but rather how it is generally applied, which becomes abusive to the women in the marriage.

That's your preference. If everyone is consenting adults, but why can't it be in a kid's book. How about those that choose to mutilate their body...

Some things were never mean't to be in children's books. 2 men finding adventure and starting a "family" is one of them. If you can discriminate against polygamy in kids books, but not against homosexual relationships; then you are a hypocrite....imho

I think where I draw the line is the point where something becomes truly harmful. I feel that mormon polygamy is damaging to the women in the marriage, and that they may often be forced into the situation instead of willing participants, but I don't see danger in talking about two men who are in love.

Who are you to decide though? I'm sure someone can conduct some survey that shows that members of a polygamous household are happy. Then can we see a children's book about it?

It's an interesting question, and I'm not entirely sure. Like I said, I have no problem with it in its abstract form, and I probably wouldn't have a problem with it in that respect.

 

[ClueLis]

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Not really. One is moral, the other is not.

Depends on your morals.

Correct. I think the only general group of people I despise more than homosexuals are women who commit murder on their unborn babies.

What if your best friend revealed to you tomorrow that he was gay? Would he be a different person because those three words came out of his mouth? Has he physically changed to you so that you can no longer associate with him? Would your god strike you down because you have associated and even befriended a homesexual without urging him to become a heterosexual? Would you begin to 'despise' him?

Yes he would be a different person. I would no longer associate with him. I don't have to worry about that problem since I choose my close friends wisely.

What do you do, perform some sort of gayness test on them?

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: ClueLis

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Not really. One is moral, the other is not.

Depends on your morals.

Correct. I think the only general group of people I despise more than homosexuals are women who commit murder on their unborn babies.

What if your best friend revealed to you tomorrow that he was gay? Would he be a different person because those three words came out of his mouth? Has he physically changed to you so that you can no longer associate with him? Would your god strike you down because you have associated and even befriended a homesexual without urging him to become a heterosexual? Would you begin to 'despise' him?

Yes he would be a different person. I would no longer associate with him. I don't have to worry about that problem since I choose my close friends wisely.

What do you do, perform some sort of gayness test on them?

He has gaydar

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: ClueLis

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Not really. One is moral, the other is not.

Depends on your morals.

Correct. I think the only general group of people I despise more than homosexuals are women who commit murder on their unborn babies.

What if your best friend revealed to you tomorrow that he was gay? Would he be a different person because those three words came out of his mouth? Has he physically changed to you so that you can no longer associate with him? Would your god strike you down because you have associated and even befriended a homesexual without urging him to become a heterosexual? Would you begin to 'despise' him?

Yes he would be a different person. I would no longer associate with him. I don't have to worry about that problem since I choose my close friends wisely.

What do you do, perform some sort of gayness test on them?

Nope, I know them thorugh church and have known them for many years. If a friend told me they were gay I would explain to them what I thought of that behavior, and that I'll be willing to associate with them when they stop their devious behavior.

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: Sid59
it's North Carolina

i hate this state 🙁

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: ClueLis

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Not really. One is moral, the other is not.

Depends on your morals.

Correct. I think the only general group of people I despise more than homosexuals are women who commit murder on their unborn babies.

What if your best friend revealed to you tomorrow that he was gay? Would he be a different person because those three words came out of his mouth? Has he physically changed to you so that you can no longer associate with him? Would your god strike you down because you have associated and even befriended a homesexual without urging him to become a heterosexual? Would you begin to 'despise' him?

Yes he would be a different person. I would no longer associate with him. I don't have to worry about that problem since I choose my close friends wisely.

What do you do, perform some sort of gayness test on them?

Nope, I know them thorugh church and have known them for many years. If a friend told me they were gay I would explain to them what I thought of that behavior, and that I'll be willing to associate with them when they stop their devious behavior.

R U for real? What if your brother came out of the closet?

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
R U for real? What if your brother came out of the closet?

Disown him from the family.

 

[luv2chill]

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Nope, I know them thorugh church and have known them for many years. If a friend told me they were gay I would explain to them what I thought of that behavior, and that I'll be willing to associate with them when they stop their devious behavior.

Perhaps they should quit associating with you until you stop YOUR devious behavior. Don't see my point? Check out Luke 6:41-42 and pray about it.

l2c

 

[ClueLis]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: ClueLis

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Not really. One is moral, the other is not.

Depends on your morals.

Correct. I think the only general group of people I despise more than homosexuals are women who commit murder on their unborn babies.

What if your best friend revealed to you tomorrow that he was gay? Would he be a different person because those three words came out of his mouth? Has he physically changed to you so that you can no longer associate with him? Would your god strike you down because you have associated and even befriended a homesexual without urging him to become a heterosexual? Would you begin to 'despise' him?

Yes he would be a different person. I would no longer associate with him. I don't have to worry about that problem since I choose my close friends wisely.

What do you do, perform some sort of gayness test on them?

Nope, I know them thorugh church and have known them for many years. If a friend told me they were gay I would explain to them what I thought of that behavior, and that I'll be willing to associate with them when they stop their devious behavior.

R U for real? What if your brother came out of the closet?

But that would never happen, as he goes to church with him and has known him for years.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: ClueLis

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Not really. One is moral, the other is not.

Depends on your morals.

Correct. I think the only general group of people I despise more than homosexuals are women who commit murder on their unborn babies.

What if your best friend revealed to you tomorrow that he was gay? Would he be a different person because those three words came out of his mouth? Has he physically changed to you so that you can no longer associate with him? Would your god strike you down because you have associated and even befriended a homesexual without urging him to become a heterosexual? Would you begin to 'despise' him?

Yes he would be a different person. I would no longer associate with him. I don't have to worry about that problem since I choose my close friends wisely.

What do you do, perform some sort of gayness test on them?

Nope, I know them thorugh church and have known them for many years. If a friend told me they were gay I would explain to them what I thought of that behavior, and that I'll be willing to associate with them when they stop their devious behavior.

R U for real? What if your brother came out of the closet?

I have no brother. But I probably would only talk to him briefly on occassion if this were the case. We would definitely not be close anymore.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: luv2chill

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Nope, I know them thorugh church and have known them for many years. If a friend told me they were gay I would explain to them what I thought of that behavior, and that I'll be willing to associate with them when they stop their devious behavior.

Perhaps they should quit associating with you until you stop YOUR devious behavior. Don't see my point? Check out Luke 6:41-42 and pray about it.

l2c

Point taken. I guess I get that attitude from being brought up in church forever. It's hard not to judge when something is pointed out as wrong in the Bible.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: ClueLis

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Not really. One is moral, the other is not.

Depends on your morals.

Correct. I think the only general group of people I despise more than homosexuals are women who commit murder on their unborn babies.

What if your best friend revealed to you tomorrow that he was gay? Would he be a different person because those three words came out of his mouth? Has he physically changed to you so that you can no longer associate with him? Would your god strike you down because you have associated and even befriended a homesexual without urging him to become a heterosexual? Would you begin to 'despise' him?

Yes he would be a different person. I would no longer associate with him. I don't have to worry about that problem since I choose my close friends wisely.

What do you do, perform some sort of gayness test on them?

Nope, I know them thorugh church and have known them for many years. If a friend told me they were gay I would explain to them what I thought of that behavior, and that I'll be willing to associate with them when they stop their devious behavior.

R U for real? What if your brother came out of the closet?

I have no brother. But I probably would only talk to him briefly on occassion if this were the case. We would definitely not be close anymore.

What if your son brings home his boyfriend, Mario?

Whatever happened to love thy neighbor, not being judgemental of others and crap or are you on the Bob Jones version of the bible?

Jesus criticized the hypocrisy and legalism of the religious leaders and groups in his region, and chose to embrace an alternative spiritual path. He lived a simple life, and worked for a living. He was not judgemental or condescending. He simply loved, and loved simply.

You and your kind are the reason that other people laugh at Christians

 

[TitanDiddly]

I'd burn the book, call up the library or whoever, ask to put a reserve on all similar books, and burn them.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: ClueLis

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Not really. One is moral, the other is not.

Depends on your morals.

Correct. I think the only general group of people I despise more than homosexuals are women who commit murder on their unborn babies.

What if your best friend revealed to you tomorrow that he was gay? Would he be a different person because those three words came out of his mouth? Has he physically changed to you so that you can no longer associate with him? Would your god strike you down because you have associated and even befriended a homesexual without urging him to become a heterosexual? Would you begin to 'despise' him?

Yes he would be a different person. I would no longer associate with him. I don't have to worry about that problem since I choose my close friends wisely.

What do you do, perform some sort of gayness test on them?

Nope, I know them thorugh church and have known them for many years. If a friend told me they were gay I would explain to them what I thought of that behavior, and that I'll be willing to associate with them when they stop their devious behavior.

R U for real? What if your brother came out of the closet?

I have no brother. But I probably would only talk to him briefly on occassion if this were the case. We would definitely not be close anymore.

What if your son brings home his boyfriend, Mario?

Whatever happened to love thy neighbor, not being judgemental of others and crap or are you on the Bob Jones version of the bible?

Jesus criticized the hypocrisy and legalism of the religious leaders and groups in his region, and chose to embrace an alternative spiritual path. He lived a simple life, and worked for a living. He was not judgemental or condescending. He simply loved, and loved simply.

You and your kind are the reason that other people laugh at Christians

Jesus didn't shun them,, but he didn't embrace their views either. I need to learn to simply recognize and point out things instead of judging them. That said, my son would not be welcome in my home if he were gay. I would love him as my son, but not his behavior. I would pray for him every day and welcome him with open arms if he changed.

 

[luv2chill]

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
I'd burn the book, call up the library or whoever, ask to put a reserve on all similar books, and burn them.

Yeah and I'd send Mr. Bookman after you!

l2c