What would you do if you were unemployed AND unemployable?

[Dr. Zaus]

I would cash in on my disability policy.

Totally forgot about this... the npv on my disability is like winning a small lotto and taking years of 20 payments

 

[Humpy]

Smoke weed all day and let the government take care of me.

I used to have a friend with no legs and that's what he did.

Other than the no legs part I was a bit jealous.

 

[AdamK47]

I'd find any way possible to prevent me from needing free handouts from the government. It would be a terrible low point otherwise. Some people are fine with it. I know people that actively try to get on government assistance rather than working. People fully capable of working, but instead try to game the system. I absolutely despise these people.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

I'd find any way possible to prevent me from needing free handouts from the government. It would be a terrible low point otherwise. Some people are fine with it. I know people that actively try to get on government assistance rather than working. People fully capable of working, but instead try to game the system. I absolutely despise these people.

Any way possible? So you're rather eat a gun than collect disability?

 

[AdamK47]

Yes, any way possible.

Sure, there are disabilities that would completely stop someone from being a benefit to society. Then there are "disabilities" that people use as an excuse for not wanting to work.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I'd find any way possible to prevent me from needing free handouts from the government. It would be a terrible low point otherwise. Some people are fine with it. I know people that actively try to get on government assistance rather than working. People fully capable of working, but instead try to game the system. I absolutely despise these people.

Meh: I collected welfare for 3 months after I got my PhD and before I started my six figure job, of course I applied for jobs during that time, but I didn't lie and no one in a smallish college town wants an overqualified PhD that plans on leaving in two months - I figured I'd be paying handsomely into the system, and anyway, helping productive members of society get over short term structural problems is the basic point of the system.

 

[AdamK47]

Short term is of course fine when needed. People working and paying into the system should be able to use that system when the need arises. To help them get back onto their feet and into the workforce.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Short term is of course fine when needed. People working and paying into the system should be able to use that system when the need arises. To help them get back onto their feet and into the workforce.

You are so not psychologically ready for post-scarcity.

 

[Geekbabe]

As a stage IV cancer pt this question stares me in the face daily. I would use my short term disability, apply for SSDI, then depending on what happens with health insurance I'd pay for COBRA for a awhile. If health insurance is out of my reach fiscally, it will be a trip to California & opting for Death with Dignity

 

[Svnla]

I am not sure why some of you are ok with being disable as long as you have money to take care of your bills.

Not fun from what I saw from disable folks, not fun at all. I would not want to be like that.

 

[interchange]

I am not sure why some of you are ok with being disable as long as you have money to take care of your bills.

Not fun from what I saw from disable folks, not fun at all. I would not want to be like that.

Well, certainly I am not saying that I would want to be disabled by any stretch. For me personally, the only circumstance where I think I am not employable would be if I were disabled, unless somehow I did something criminal enough to lose my license.

 

[Carson Dyle]

WTF is "unemployable"? Why would a healthy, intelligent adult be "unemployable"?

Is the 62 year old guy in the paint department at Home Depot unemployable? You think he's been mixing paint and recommending the right paintbrush his whole life?

Is the 78 year old greeter at Walmart unemployable?

Is the guy who speaks no English and spent the last two days in 105 degree heat with no water crossing into Texas unemployable?

 

[Humpy]

WTF is "unemployable"? Why would a healthy, intelligent adult be "unemployable"?

Is the 62 year old guy in the paint department at Home Depot unemployable? You think he's been mixing paint and recommending the right paintbrush his whole life?

Is the 78 year old greater at Walmart unemployable?

Is the guy who speaks no English and spent the last two days in 105 degree heat with no water crossing into Texas unemployable?

There are a surprising number of useless people out there.

One can go through 5 or 6 seemingly healthy and intelligent adults before finding one who can consistently pick something up from one pile and put it back down in another pile in an orderly fashion.

In general, unemployable is a lack of desire, and you can't really make a person do something they don't want to do.

I found hiring crackheads and paying them cash at the end of the day to be a good strategy. They were motivated as hell knowing that by 30 minutes after work ended they would have a good sized baggy of crack in their pocket. Plus crackheads usually knew a bunch of other crackheads so I could rotate them out as they got too twitchy or spent a few unexpected nights in jail.

 

[dainthomas]

My savings sucks, but I could probably scrape by on my VA disability until my SS disability got approved. My truck is paid off, so I'd just need enough to cover my mortgage/utilities.

 

[skull]

Not necessarily. I once met a guy who used to take photos using some sort of specialized camera. Did that job for over 20 years, then the popularity of digital cameras made his position obsolete. Older guy with no other skills, so he became unemployable, but was not disabled.

That guys lazy and/or an idiot then, he should of seen it coming and got into something else. I currently do various home repairs if for some god forsaken reason I can't work on houses anymore, I'll work on cars. If I can't work on anything anymore. I'll put someone in my truck with my tools and sell work. If its just because they won't let me work in my area anymore I'll do it under the radar or move fuck em I ain't going broke. I also have computers, I could go work in a hardware store, theres no limit to what I could or would do if I had to.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Retire and live on our rental property income.

 

[manly]

In talking to that guy, there's really no market for an older guy with obsolete skill sets. Employers can always higher younger, healthier, more docile people than him.

So he'd be fine as as Wal-Mart greeter.

If you're truly unemployable, the best bet would be to (legally) move to a socialist democracy with a very broad safety net.

 

[lxskllr]

We'll make it hard. If I ended up homeless with most of my money gone, I'd panhandle til I got core essentials taken care of, then start hitting the farms to try getting some jobs. When you don't have anything, a small amount of money will take you a long way, and I'm sure you could hook up some bullshit work no one else wants, or has time to do.

 

[Ns1]

Seppuku. The answer is always seppuku.

 

[madoka]

WTF is "unemployable"? Why would a healthy, intelligent adult be "unemployable"?

Ask waggy if he could find a job once he gets out.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

As a stage IV cancer pt this question stares me in the face daily. I would use my short term disability, apply for SSDI, then depending on what happens with health insurance I'd pay for COBRA for a awhile. If health insurance is out of my reach fiscally, it will be a trip to California & opting for Death with Dignity

why not a trip to California to live in a state where the state will provide medical care?

I saw my dad die of stage 4 about a year ago. He was actually quite happy with life, that is not-indignant, until about a week before he passed on (the memory of which is what has fueled my weight loss); then I wished he had assisted suicide. Until then there a lot of options and spontaneous remissions happen. A lot of doctors are not aware of the role nutrition can play in antiangiogenics, some even wrongly say not to eat fruit because they thin anti-oxidants are a bad thing.

People with cancer get thousands of stupid emails: this isn't one. I've confirmed this guy's literature reviews with multiple Ph.Ds. in the medical field. None of them knew this literature, all of them were surprised, none of them could find a hole in this guy's arguments.

https://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-not-to-die-from-cancer/

 

[Mai72]

Much of it is a mindset.

What I mean by that is your thoughts are a by product of your environment. If your family had a difficult time with money, and if you think money is hard to come by, you'll live by that motto. At least I did until I met many of my friends in SE Asia. Many are really young entrapuneres who are killing it.

I've actually taken on a mentor. Why? Well he's 25 years old and already a millionaire. Just last month alone he made over $325k. When you get around people who are doing big things your perspective on life changes.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I have way too much pride in life to ever say I can't be employed. Even in the 1 instance that I was unemployed in life from layoff, I didn't actually file for unemployment and found something within a month.

Would probably rather kill myself than be a burden on others. Maybe after I spent what retirement money I have accrued so far.

 

[Humpy]

Ask waggy if he could find a job once he gets out.

Is he legit locked up now?

I can't imagine an ATOTer doing well in prison. I know I wouldn't.

I like the idea that someone could be banned in real life but not banned from AT though.

I have so many questions...

 

[piasabird]

Apply for credit cards with no interest. Buy a lawn mower and mow people's grass. Make YouTube Videos. Ask Soros If I can protest for him. Go back to school. Pick up can along the road. Sell gum at bars.