What would you do if you found out that God wasn't real

[servcarpenter]

Haha, it makes me laugh that everyone argues about it. It's like
"I love God, and he tells me to love others, so I'll argue with them about myself being right. I don't believe God can show people himself, I have to prove him to them." I can see having a discussion but it's an argument when you start bashing others such as that all uneducated people are atheists. That is so not true. Its all over the board. There are good religious people, and bad religious people. There are good atheists, and bad atheists, there are educated atheists, and educated religious. It's everywhere. Really it's just a self choice and we will all find out in the end. Until then live your life how you belief. Personally my belief is what the Bible Says, not what others say the Bible says, but what it ACTUALLY says.

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: shocksyde
Although I'm not religious, I believe many religious folks would choose to still attend church and so on. According to some people I've talked to, they don't care if God really exists or not. They care more about the morals and "goodness" that christianity teaches than anything else.

edit: Which I can respect, even being a non-believer myself.

What the... then they aren't Christian, and are actually hurting others by imposing their moral standards and behavioral expectations on others...

No wonder people have such a low opinion of Christianity

 

[erickj92]

I would give up on my religion, but it would take alot of evedence for some one to proove to me he is not real...

 

[JulesMaximus]

What would you do if you found out that God wasn't real

I'd go find a holy roller and kill him/her...duh.

Oh wait, that's illegal and I'll be punished for it...nevermind.

 

[mrjminer]

Originally posted by: Vic
I understand what you're telling the Bible thumpers, however, I don't think you understand what I'm telling you. If God in the biblical sense is proven not to exist (hypothetically), then you still have the issue of God in the Einsteinian sense (i.e. the universe as God). It doesn't go away, nor can it. If all is "random chance" and humans are the only "intelligent" life in the universe, then we are God as we would be the universe becoming aware of itself. Or perhaps God represents what the process of evolution is evolving towards. Or perhaps we're disembodied brains floating in vats, all of this is imaginary, and we're each of us Gods of our own imaginary universes. Does this make sense? There is no not God, there are just certain understandings of God that we are slowly discovering are incorrect, like running down a checklist of trial and error. Science cannot prove theism but it disproved atheism long ago. That's what makes the armchair atheist internet scientists so laughable, and why they always stick to the straw men of the God of traditional religions (like Christianity) instead of permitting discussions on the higher and deeper philosophical levels of the concept.

God in the Einsteinian sense is simply a reiteration of the old philosophical question: "if a tree falls and there's nobody to hear it, does it still make a sound?" It's really weak to just label things left and right as to flaunt their inability to be proven or denied. Perpetual theory is potentially in everything.

Did you know that the internet is really made of super-duper-subatomic particles we will never be able to identify? This argument, like any other, is comprised of BS.

 

[OVerLoRDI]

Originally posted by: shocksyde
Although I'm not religious, I believe many religious folks would choose to still attend church and so on. According to some people I've talked to, they don't care if God really exists or not. They care more about the morals and "goodness" that christianity teaches than anything else.

edit: Which I can respect, even being a non-believer myself.

You meet the best people at church. Generally they are very kind and you can make a lot of useful connections. Also usually some of the best girls not just for dating but for long term relationships you find at church, mostly because they will have the similar morals.

 

[loic2003]

Originally posted by: servcarpenter
Personally my belief is what the Bible Says, not what others say the Bible says, but what it ACTUALLY says.

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.

Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city.

"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."

You're sick if you follow this. Personally, I'll stick to my morals from this century that I developed using my own intelligence, and didn't follow like a sheep. Religion truly should be outlawed; it doesn't belong in this day and age.

 

[verndewd]

Originally posted by: Juddog
If you are currently religious, and you found out or it was proven to you in some way (which of course impossible to prove that something doesn't exist) that God didn't exist, would it change your faith? Would you continue to go to church, or would you give up your religion?

Let's not debate whether he / she / it exists or not, only what you would do if you found out that he / she / it doesn't exist. How would that change your outlook on the world, and how you interact with others?

Firstly ,its impossible to prove or disprove;Kind of like string theory only dumber. (consider the inquisition)
Secondly If it were proven there is no god most religious people would feel a great sense
of loss,and this world would instantly get alot greedier and hateful.

The unfortunate backlash would be an overindulgence of desire and carnal urge.crime would skyrocket.Order itself would ultimately be challenged,so something like china's psuedo spirituality would need to be introduced,the peoples philosophy.

Lets be honest men need a stimulant to calm the neanderthal,wether it be the discipline of higher education or god.Without such catalyst societies could not be formed.

I for one believe in god and i believe jesus was one of mans most necessary teachers regardless of what existence.Man is nothing but an animal without the discipline to teach him control.

 

[Netopia]

Originally posted by: loic2003

Originally posted by: servcarpenter
Personally my belief is what the Bible Says, not what others say the Bible says, but what it ACTUALLY says.

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.

Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city.

"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."

You're sick if you follow this. Personally, I'll stick to my morals from this century that I developed using my own intelligence, and didn't follow like a sheep. Religion truly should be outlawed; it doesn't belong in this day and age.

And you are woefully ignorant of the Christianity if you even post that. You show your lack of knowledge by your words.

Who were those written by and to? What was the effect of the Christ and His sacrifice? What happened when he "fulfilled the law"?

Go and read and then come back with some logical arguements if you can, but posting this sort of stuff only makes you look foolish to those who actually know anything about the religion you are trying to attack.

Joe