What would modern MMOs be like.....

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techgamer

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Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: techgamer
MMOs are not dead...Spend some time reading Warhammer Age of Reckonnings website. This game will be 10x better than WoW

this claim has been made about every MMo that has come out since WoW and no one has lived up to the hype

How many MMOs have been in development for 3+ years and have had about $12+mill spent on them?
 

CKent

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They'd be good.

As it stands, every one of them has to copy WoW or risk losing most of its financial backing. Appeal to the masses, who are droolingly stupid, or fail... ugh. /seppuku

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: techgamer
MMOs are not dead...Spend some time reading Warhammer Age of Reckonnings website. This game will be 10x better than WoW

this claim has been made about every MMo that has come out since WoW and no one has lived up to the hype

To be fair, the only ones that had much buzz were LotRO, which seems to have found a niche demographic (not for me, with no pvp) and Vanguard, which died in May 2005 when Sony got their claws on it, well before actual release.
 

zpsyx9

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Just my 2 cp... to the OP I'd say the best view on how things would be if there were no WoW is if you looked at how Vanguard was mid-development. NO OPINION ON IT, theres a huge amount of grudge here (just look at VG forums) not tryin to start a war or anything. Basically, my understanding is lead producer considered WoW a "fad" and they completely ignored it while developing. Therefore the game was produced completely disregarding WoW (at first). Soon after of course, they realized WoW wasn't a fad and they went into a panic. The game then materialized into this half-eq half-wow mess that was bugged beyond anything you've ever seen... as an EQ1 player, it would have brought some nostalgia to the table (and a new combat system), but it didn't. It's a shame really, but yeah just google "The Vision" and "Vanguard".

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Just a side note, there ARE people still playing it and they're planning a re-release. I'm not expecting Sony to save the day or anything, but hey heres hoping... If it does come out it fixed, it might compete with LOTRO or something but I don't think it's gonna be the new killer MMO everyone's been waiting for.
 

Bradtechonline

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I found that the fondest times I have looking back at MMO's never came from WoW. I think it is a very well put together game, and is very easy so it appeals to most casual gamers. I really got into Asheron's Call, and Everquest both. I really like the monarchy system in Asheron's Call, and thought it was a great idea that hasn't been implemented much. You have a higher level character as your patron, and he helps you out, and gets points by doing so. I hate how games now spoon feed the drones content. I'm the kind of guy who likes to go out, and explore lands and make it my own. Not be fed Chore's to do *even though there have been quests I really like in WoW*. EQ was a blast because all my friends played it, I would have stuck with AC but they begged me to start playing EQ. The funnest I've had in a MMO since those two has been a small game called Horizons. The owners have been crap for the most part, but I had a lot of fun playing that game because of the leveling system for the bipeds. You could level up to 20 as a cleric, and then level up to 20 as a warrior. Your character isn't locked into anything, you can go out, and unlearn a school if you choose. I like that idea. Anymore though I can't get into any MMO. The thought of playing any of them makes me sick. *just got done playing WoW for 4-5 months straight*.
 

Drift3r

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MMO companies would still be releasing half-baked crap (as they did in the past) all the time and expect to succeed in the market.
 

Coldkilla

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I want an MMO like stalker on a massive scale, a smoother engine, aircraft/vehicles. Something like this would be awesome. Playing in a world of nuclear holocaust, perhaps 1 place in the world thats clear of radiation and only extreme high ranking officials can be there... that'd rule. But it doesn't appeal to the base audience so that'll never happen.
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: skace
Considering WoW is just DAOC and DAOC is just EQ, they'd all still be similar to EQ in some nature. If you went and eliminated WoW, DAOC, EQ and all the other spawns of this style of gameplay. You'd be left with an MMO genre that would have most likely followed Asheron's Call in some nature.

Oh and these discussions of why people don't leave WoW are the SAME EXACT DISCUSSIONS people used to have back in EQ. I mean, exact, as in identical minus the name change. It is so hillarious reading them again. Back when EQ was popular people would always ask why everyone plays it and why they don't go to something else and how come no one can make anything better. The real answer is that it is not easy to make these games and you need skill and a hard working team that can eat a massive amount of startup costs to dethrone a good game in the MMO genre.

Mythic secured over $40mil for development of warhammer online.

I knew it was expensive, but i didnt know it was *that much* to get an MMO coded and launched. I believe they are using the gamebryo engine which is only $100k/yr for an unlimited licence, and updates to the engine are free. They must have an assload of programming staff.
 

Acanthus

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Id also like to add that i quit WoW because i wasnt enjoying the grind anymore and went to EQ2.

Ive never been happier, there is so much content to play through that you cant do it with one character. The mentoring system lets me play with my friends so we dont have to all level together. The graphics are fantastic. It actually has some new elements that added to the gameplay like collections and heritage quests. Guilds have to level up to get access to items and other content. A superior crafting system thats not "click and wait" for 455 hours.

21 classes is a big plus for me too.