So much uncertainty. All of your life experiences > /dev/null . Its just too much of an unknown for most people. They need a sense of secutiry.
So much uncertainty. All of your life experiences > /dev/null . Its just too much of an unknown for most people. They need a sense of secutiry.
Ok, i guess i just lack whatever it is that makes people afraid to die. To me it's just to rest, forever.
Not strange i guess, as i am not afraid to get older either, i guess i just think it's kinda silly to be scared of something that is inevitable.
I used to worry about it a lot when I was little. Then I just realized that its unavoidable. Other people look for the loophole, and a lot genuinely believe in God. It makes sense to them. I would be happy if my conscience remained and it was just infinite blackness. Anything over that is gravy.
In order to either prove or disprove the existance of the God in the Bible, one must either die or be the God that one is trying to prove or disprove.
prove god exists? which one!
most people don't even care, whether they realize it or not. why do you think people go religion shopping (on this very board even)? or some think they're all cool and invent their own "rules" because they are so above organized religion and they have personally discovered the "real" god.
i guarantee you you'll never see a person trying to find out which is the REAL god (of all the 1000s) and then pick that religion that worships it even if it's a weird obscure or "un-pc" one. instead they shop around til they find a set of rules that pleases them and their arbitrary preferences (based on the time period we live in of course) and then they declare that god real.
what if the real god was some wacked out aztec sacrificing baby killing blood on the steps god. who wants to sign up? i'm first! it's all so lame.
once you understand the way people think and examine human behavior over the history of mankind you will see how fake and phony it all is. it's a mental pacifier for some, a form of control for others, a conformity for yet others.
most people don't even care, whether they realize it or not. why do you think people go religion shopping (on this very board even)? or some think they're all cool and invent their own "rules" because they are so above organized religion and they have personally discovered the "real" god.
i guarantee you you'll never see a person trying to find out which is the REAL god (of all the 1000s) and then pick that religion that worships it even if it's a weird obscure or "un-pc" one. instead they shop around til they find a set of rules that pleases them and their arbitrary preferences (based on the time period we live in of course) and then they declare that god real.
what if the real god was some wacked out aztec sacrificing baby killing blood on the steps god. who wants to sign up? i'm first! it's all so lame.
once you understand the way people think and examine human behavior over the history of mankind you will see how fake and phony it all is. it's a mental pacifier for some, a form of control for others, a conformity for yet others.
preslove
Lifer
- Sep 10, 2003
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Philosphy and religion cautioned that gods (or God) were far more powerful than we, jelous of their prerogatives and quick to mete out justice for insufferable arrogance. At the same time, these disciplines had not a clue that their own teaching of how the Universe is ordered was a conceit and a DELUSION.
Philosophy and religion presented mere opinion--opinion that might be overturned by observation and experiment--as certainty. This worried them not at all. That some of their deeply held beliefs might turn out to be mistakes was a possibility hardly considered. Doctrinal humility was to be practiced by others. Their own teachings were inerrant and infallible. In truth, they had better reason to be humble than they knew.
Carl Sagan--Pale Blue Dot emphasis added
God is a Feeling. This Feeling can be called many different things. I get in touch with it through meditation. I also am an athiest. If you think this feeling can only be reached with your technique and vocabulary, you are an asshat. If you are looking for empirical signs of God, you are an idiot.
Philosophy and religion presented mere opinion--opinion that might be overturned by observation and experiment--as certainty. This worried them not at all. That some of their deeply held beliefs might turn out to be mistakes was a possibility hardly considered. Doctrinal humility was to be practiced by others. Their own teachings were inerrant and infallible. In truth, they had better reason to be humble than they knew.
Carl Sagan--Pale Blue Dot emphasis added
God is a Feeling. This Feeling can be called many different things. I get in touch with it through meditation. I also am an athiest. If you think this feeling can only be reached with your technique and vocabulary, you are an asshat. If you are looking for empirical signs of God, you are an idiot.
Each person has a different answer, yes. However I believe that there is only one correct answer.
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
That's quite the opinion you have there.
Sagan's words or mine?
I was referring to both.
Anubis
No Lifer
it's a leap of faith, you either believe what's written in the bible or you don't, just keep in mind not a singe thing has ever been disproven in the bible. (archealogically/scientifically speaking of course, most evidence actually supports the bibles historical accounts)
Isaac Newton spent most of his life trying to prove the existence of God via science. The existence of doctrinal God is hard to prove, but the existence of a higher power is always around us. Science just clarifies that the universe is not a big ball of chaos, but the universe follow rules and laws. I believe humans are great at determining the how's of things, however we fail to understand the why's. That results in religion filling the gap of the why's, while science explaining to us the how's.
even an act of God would probably not convince me. Even if something that is physically impossible occured, I would still be skeptical. The laws of physics are not absolute and we do not know everything, so something that we think is impossible now may actually be very possible. I think the only way I could ever believe is when I die, then I'll know. I can't help it, I'm just a skeptic of everything by nature.
There are many things that have been disproven.
I'm not saying EVERYTHING in it is wrong, but most certainly EVERYTHING in it isn't correct.
TuxDave
Lifer
- Oct 8, 2002
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I think it'll take more than a single act to prove it to everyone. If a manifestation of God came to earth, he would have to be subjected to numerous requests like...
Teleporting me to the other side of the room on my request.
Instantly cure blindness for everyone on Earth.
Cause all the stars to converge onto the Earth killing everyone and then bringing us all back to life.
Teleporting me to the other side of the room on my request.
Instantly cure blindness for everyone on Earth.
Cause all the stars to converge onto the Earth killing everyone and then bringing us all back to life.
I would LOVE to see ANYTHING in the Bible proven wrong. Unless you're going to back up your claim that evidence exists that proves the Bible wrong with that evidence, an outrageous (to me) statement like that just makes my eyes roll.
So you think there is enough water in the Earth to cover the whole thing as described in Old Testament?
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